DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[UNCgolf]

I will remember everyone’s pessimism.

I don’t know about you, but I’ll see everyone in the line for the maleficent coaster

If it's anything like that concept art, you definitely won't see me in line for it!

And that's not meant as a comment on the potential quality.

 

[Casper Gutman]

I will remember everyone’s pessimism.

I don’t know about you, but I’ll see everyone in the line for the maleficent coaster

A Maleficent Coaster is just the sort of thing Disney would build in a Villain land. Which is a problem.

 

[Streetway]

Why? A maleficent coaster sounds awesome!

A Maleficent Coaster is just the sort of thing Disney would build in a Villain land. Which is a problem.

 

[Jedi14]

A Maleficent Coaster is just the sort of thing Disney would build in a Villain land. Which is a problem.

Why is that a problem, besides you not wanting a coaster?

 

[CosmicDuck]

This cadaverous pallor betrays an aura of foreboding

 

[Rich Brownn]

yeah, but by that argument adding two Himalaya spinners on Main Street would also give the park more capacity... Any attraction will give the park more capacity...that doesn't mean that any addition is a good idea....especially when there are shuttered attractions in the park... And the charm of the Magic Kingdom is not based on the "latest greatest movie franchise" but the fairytale classics, and old Disney nostalgia... Let DHS and EPCOT have the trendy new IP... Magic Kingdom was never based on current hit IP attractions... ever. And yet, somehow it is the most visited and popular of the Disney parks.

Ironically, Sleeping Beauty castle at Disneyland was to promote the new film (which ended up being delayed anyways). So it ended up being an icon based on a future IP

 

[Casper Gutman]

Why is that a problem, besides you not wanting a coaster?

Disney has dramatically overbuilt (short) coasters recently to an almost ridiculous extent. Putting aside the lack of variety, Disney needs to focus on making rides with fewer height restrictions, especially in MK.

 

[Jedi14]

Disney has dramatically overbuilt (short) coasters recently to an almost ridiculous extent. Putting aside the lack of variety, Disney needs to focus on making rides with fewer height restrictions, especially in MK.

So, like the second ride they’re doing for the Cars area?

 

[lazyboy97o]

Ironically, Sleeping Beauty castle at Disneyland was to promote the new film (which ended up being delayed anyways). So it ended up being an icon based on a future IP

No, it was not. Disneyland was going to have a castle long before it was decided to name it Sleeping Beauty Castle. Naming it for Snow White was kicked around but it was also often just the Fantasyland Castle, even after the park opened.

 

[Casper Gutman]

So, like the second ride they’re doing for the Cars area?

What do you think the second Cars ride is, exactly?

 

[Jedi14]

What do you think the second Cars ride is, exactly?

The second ride is supposed to something targeted towards younger guests. That’s all the information they gave at D23. So the height requirement, if there is one, shouldn’t be too restrictive.

 

[Fox&Hound]

A Maleficent Coaster is just the sort of thing Disney would build in a Villain land. Which is a problem.

Bro, did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? You doing okay? I always admire your posts: your eloquence and perspective. But this negativity does not suit your usual witty self. It could be good, you know.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

When you expand the time horizon a bit, even if they build Villains land and Cars land land with 2 rides each, it will still be a net loss of 1 attraction. At one time, the RoA had: 2 riverboats, canoes, keel boats, and TSI.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I know the history of "phase 2" expansions is a sad and sorry story.

But Villains isn't "blue sky."

Not according to Josh. And yes, I can hear the guffawing.

But he said specifically that all that was being presented was not blue sky. And with Villains, something was already in progress.

What something?

Top something. <shrug>

He was vague.

 

[celluloid]

I know the history of "phase 2" expansions is a sad and sorry story.

But Villains isn't "blue sky."

Not according to Josh. And yes, I can hear the guffawing.

But he said specifically that all that was being presented was not blue sky. And with Villains, something was already in progress.

What something?

Top something. <shrug>

He was vague.

And we all know, Disney never cans anything in progress.

You can hear the guffawing because talk is cheap.

 

[BrianLo]

I know I side eternally optimistic here, but this gives me more flashbacks to Pandora circa 2013 or Galaxies Edge circa 2015.

I think Villains is committed, but that also doesn’t mean it looks like the concept art.

This has executive legacy project written all over it. Something fairly drastic would need to occur for them to not carry through with some iteration of it. Which I wouldn’t have supported until he brought it to the stage a second time with committed language.

I also personally think it’s on a 2029 timeframe.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Bro, did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? You doing okay? I always admire your posts: your eloquence and perspective. But this negativity does not suit your usual witty self. It could be good, you know.

I’m hopeful about the Dinoland replacement. The rest of the announcements are very weak and represent a lot of modern Disney’s very worst impulses. The recent preoccupation with coasters is one of these. It springs from a desire to funnel guests through an attraction as quickly as possible, story and mood and other classic Disney qualities be darned, to get them back in the stores and restaurants. It’s also a move away from rides without restrictions - family rides. The lack of such rides is Universal’s biggest failing, but the shift is even more notable at WDW because its reputation was built on such rides. Villains Land is an exciting concept because of the range of unique possibilities for mood and story, not because it presents an opportunity for a coaster through rock work.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Come on. Counting Villains rides is a cheat. That land has as much chance of happening as if it hasn’t been mentioned.

If everything else gets built it’s a net addition of MAYBE one attraction, depending on the location of Monsters. If you want to give Disney the benefit of the doubt and count only “rides,” it might be an addition of three rides, one of them (the second Cars attraction, which is far from guaranteed) likely a flat.

Before the announcements, reliable insiders were reporting that we were getting ADDITIONAL capacity in the form of major Coco and Moana rides at MK, possible additional capacity from an AK Lion King attraction, and keeping Rivers of America and Muppets. The D23 announcements were really quite awful.

I'll put money on the line that Villains land gets built. It could take until 2031, but it will get built with at least two attractions.

Tell that to Muppets Movieland. Africa. Israel. Etc etc.

I'm still waiting for Jay Rasulo's promise to let us watch Cinderella change into her dress.

 

[BrianLo]

I’m hopeful about the Dinoland replacement. The rest of the announcements are very weak and represent a lot of modern Disney’s very worst impulses. The recent preoccupation with coasters is one of these. It springs from a desire to funnel guests through an attraction as quickly as possible, story and mood and other classic Disney qualities be darned, to get them back in the stores and restaurants. It’s also a move away from rides without restrictions - family rides. The lack of such rides is Universal’s biggest failing, but the shift is even more notable at WDW because its reputation was built on such rides. Villains Land is an exciting concept because of the range of unique possibilities for mood and story, not because it presents an opportunity for a coaster through rock work.

I disagree with a lot of the conversation, but the spread of attractions is certainly odd. Really wasn’t expecting WDW to come out with 2.5 coastery rides (I’m adding a half for cars). It kind of feels like all the options were taken independently.

I don’t think it’s company wide philosophical change though. Arguably WDW could have most benefited from virtually all three of the main ride proposal for DCA and there was a strong argument DCA could receive a coaster of some form.

The stand out ride that is more wish fulfillment than actually thinking about what the park needs is this Monsters Coaster.

Now that also said, we don’t need two more animated films occupying splash-likes either at WDW.

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

Again, the “rumors” were encouraging because they ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THE RESORT NEEDS CAPACITY.

I’m disappointed in the announcements because, outside of Dinoland, they’re awful. They’re removing beloved attractions for underwhelming replacements, Disney’s pattern for three decades.

How do you know they’re underwhelming if they’re not open? If you’re not allowing someone to say that Cars will yield high capacity on the basis that we haven’t seen it yet, then how can you determine quality if nothing’s been built.

I get you’re disappointed that the rumors you heard didn’t turn out to be reality, but we’re really not in any position to speaking definitively of anything when none of it exists yet.