DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[ToTBellHop]

They won’t have much room for a show but imagine this except it’s Sully:

 

[Streetway]

I am a man of two minds on this. I do think 3D films themselves are Inherently going to be dated. But muppetvision is so well written, so much more than a 3D film effects wise. I’d be more open to it if the muppets were to get a ground up ride, but there is no realistic path to that, and who knows how well written it would be with modern muppets. I wish great muppet movie ride got built, because that could’ve been something truly timeless.

And no, HOP muppets still wouldn’t solve it. Muppets need a physical thing like an actual ride. No way they get it.

 

[Moth]

I agree with this take 100%.

I'm surprised how many people put this show on a pedestal. It's a decent show
but nothing timeless.

Waldo and Figment are the most annoying characters Disney has ever made.

Figment isn't annoying....

 

[MKeeler]

What burns me about even the potential that the Muppet area is an option for Monstropolis, is that everything outlined in red below should be considered for expansion before anything is replaced. I realize I have Mermaid and One Man’s Dream in that area, but those are most easily moved. Everything else (minus any chiller or absolute park necessity infrastructure that I’m not certain of), should be more than enough to cover Monstropolis and Zootopia, side by side and completely filling out that side of the park. If Simpsons has to go somewhere then, put it in Echo Lake and Indy, completing the transformation from a behind the scenes park to a park of various film worlds. Then there’s everything, Monstropolis, Zootopia, Springfield, and Muppets. I’m just tired of all the taking when what’s needed is multiple, multiple additions.

 

[doctornick]

It’s not like Monsters will add significant capacity, though. The discussion of removing capacity of the sort offered by MuppetVision should 100% be kicked down the road when you have a completely useless fork right in the front of the park like you do with Animation Courtyard. If they want to save the Monsters, Inc. plans for later because they think Grand Avenue is the ideal place for that, then fine. But Animation Courtyard should be developed first regardless of content.

I tend to agree. I will however say that if the Monsters concept at Grand Ave involves replacing MV with a Monsters show and having the door coaster, it is less of an issue going there although it would still suck after MV closes and this would open.

 

[jason976]

I agree with this take 100%.

I'm surprised how many people put this show on a pedestal. It's a decent show
but nothing timeless.

Waldo and Figment are the most annoying characters Disney has ever made.

Waldo really is the worst, but you leave Figment out of this!

 

[chriswacy]

I understand it's not as simple as moving the film, since there are animatronics & in-theater effects, but they have so many theaters showing filler (Mickey Shorts, Disney/Pixar Short Film Festival), surely MuppetVision would be a better fit for those spaces, and probably cheaper than moving Muppets to HoP.

 

[Streetway]

Like, a muppet dark ride inspired by muppet vision and the original muppet studios concepts could be SO GOOD. hell, make it interactive like ride and go seek to bring people in. The muppets have so much more potential than just shows that have an eventual shelf life. But no way Disney green lights it.

 

[Winter]

Figment isn't annoying....

He is on the current ride. I was never on the original version but I know the current version is considered way worse, so I assume he's fine there. But he's annoying on the current ride.

 

[Erdago]

Waldo and Figment are the most annoying characters Disney has ever made.

Disney didn’t make Waldo; the character was created for The Jim Henson Hour in 1989, but was only ever in that show and Muppet Vision 3D.

Due to the character’s sheer obscurity outside of Muppet Vision, it’s abnormal design compared to the rest of the franchise, and the show giving it a clear birth and death in the context of Muppet Vision, it’s very easy to inadvertently think the character was created for the attraction (I certainly did for a very long time).

 

[doctornick]

What burns me about even the potential that the Muppet area is an option for Monstropolis, is that everything outlined in red below should be considered for expansion before anything is replaced. I realize I have Mermaid and One Man’s Dream in that area, but those are most easily moved. Everything else (minus any chiller or absolute park necessity infrastructure that I’m not certain of), should be more than enough to cover Monstropolis and Zootopia, side by side and completely filling out that side of the park. If Simpsons has to go somewhere then, put it in Echo Lake and Indy, completing the transformation from a behind the scenes park to a park of various film worlds. Then there’s everything, Monstropolis, Zootopia, Springfield, and Muppets. I’m just tired of all the taking when what’s needed is multiple, multiple additions.

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I would leave One Mans Dream and Mermaid - you can just have the existing Animation Courtyard remain and be the pathway to new land(s) - but otherwise I'd agree. If I were in charge, I would not remove a single existing guest facing thing except (1) Launch Bay and then later (2) Stunt Show and build on all the backstage stuff first. Once all those acres are developed, then okay you can look at MuppetVision or Star Tours or whatever.

 

[Streetway]

I have a question for y’all. If they built a new,
Modern, muppets dark ride, would you be fine with muppetvision leaving? ( I know I’m shouting into the wind rn but my point still stands.)

 

[MKeeler]

Like, a muppet dark ride inspired by muppet vision and the original muppet studios concepts could be SO GOOD. hell, make it interactive like ride and go seek to bring people in. The muppets have so much more potential than just shows that have an eventual shelf life. But no way Disney green lights it.

My ongoing dream is a Great Muppet Ride, where you start on something like a Muppet Treasure Island version of Pirates, and Crazy Harry fires a cannon and blows up the wrong part, sending your boat through Muppet versions of other Disney rides. The Fozzy Bear Jamboree, The Enchanted Chicken Coop, American Sings with Sam Eagle, etc.etc. All ending with a great it’s a small world finale room with the Muppets singing Rainbow Connection. You cannot tell me that would not be an endlessly popular ride, with tremendous repeatability for people to catch all the jokes.

 

[chriswacy]

Replacing Muppets et. al for Monsters just feels to me like saying "I'm going to replace my kitchen with a garage instead of cleaning out my existing garage because I want to turn the existing garage into a new kitchen later"

 

[Erdago]

I have a question for y’all. If they built a new,
Modern, muppets dark ride, would you be fine with muppetvision leaving?

To me, I think it would very much depend on the effort put into it and how they sell it. If they are able to make a high quality dark ride that feels like a passing of the torch to a new era of Muppets, it could be a very bittersweet but understandable passing of time. If the ride is a cheap copy lacking in the charm that has endeared me and millions to the franchise, it would be a cold comfort.

 

[Streetway]

My ongoing dream is a Great Muppet Ride, where you start on something like a Muppet Treasure Island version of Pirates, and Crazy Harry fires a cannon and blows up the wrong part, sending your boat through Muppet versions of other Disney rides. The Fozzy Bear Jamboree, The Enchanted Chicken Coop, American Sings with Sam Eagle, etc.etc. All ending with a great it’s a small world finale room with the Muppets singing Rainbow Connection. You cannot tell me that would not be an endlessly popular ride, with tremendous repeatability for people to catch all the jokes.

My personal thought for a good muppet ride for years to come is this: A Muppet themed version of ride and go seek. An interactive “tour” through muppet studios filled with the famous Henson wit, Marc Davis esque gags, and hundreds of smaller gags activated with the flashlights. With the studios theme, you can have different interactive rooms with all the favorite muppet characters. All with a queue reminiscent of MMRR At Disneyland. Adaptable to the modern audience, but still plenty of room for gags. Feel free to share thoughts.

 

[Surferboy567]

By the way, either way they go with this I really hope it’s an expansive land. This film really deserves a well fleshed out land it’s one of Pixar’s best. The model I saw at D23 looked a little cramped but it’s kinda hard to tell. I hope the queue is an expansive tour of the factory thing like Hogwarts at forbidden journey but with the monsters Inc factory.

 

[Streetway]

My personal thought for a good muppet ride for years to come is this: A Muppet themed version of ride and go seek. An interactive “tour” through muppet studios filled with the famous Henson wit, Marc Davis esque gags, and hundreds of smaller gags activated with the flashlights. With the studios theme, you can have different interactive rooms with all the favorite muppet characters. All with a queue reminiscent of MMRR At Disneyland. Adaptable to the modern audience, but still plenty of room for gags. Feel free to share thoughts.

Also maybe a mystic manor esque ride through muppet labs.

 

[Streetway]

To me, I think it would very much depend on the effort put into it and how they sell it. If they are able to make a high quality dark ride that feels like a passing of the torch to a new era of Muppets, it could be a very bittersweet but understandable passing of time. If the ride is a cheap copy lacking in the charm that has endeared me and millions to the franchise, it would be a cold comfort.

Country bear musical jamboree is the very definition of “bittersweet passing of the torch”. If a muppet dark ride is approached with as much love as CBMJ, I think we’d be alright. God I could list off muppet dark ride concepts for days…

 

[The Leader of the Club]

Figment isn't annoying....

I love Figment.

Figment in the current attraction is annoying.