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DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

cjkeating

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Ultimately they will hit diminishing returns on capacity. The problem is in a park like DHS where it might take 6 rides to reach that level. DAK could get there with three rides.
I agree. I think Disney need to accept the parks are overworked and are returning more money per person than they should be. DHS is the biggest victim here. Yes adding in 6 more attractions would increase costs but it would allow people to have a better day at the park by closer matching demand to capacity.
 

cjkeating

Well-Known Member
I'd have faith that we'd get the best version we could hope for but fitting a square peg into a round hole is still going to require either some serious shaving of the peg or cutting of the hole.

I like Pandora but I'm not going to pretend a few mental gymnastics need to be made to consider it a real fit for AK and obviously, Joe did the best he could to focus on making the place a post-human-conflict environment so he could make it about the alien "nature" in order to make that fit.

I imagine in other hands, that whole project could have turned out very differently and very much for the worse in terms of fit for the park as it was originally conceived but it doesn't take a lot of effort to see where the hole was cut more and the peg was shaved to make that happen.
I think the big issue with Encanto is we've never had a ride at DAK that features human animated characters.

Pandora has the Navi who co-exist with humans, every other ride... features humans, real animals or extinct animals.

Lion King/Nemo are the closest we get and they very clearly shows not immersive rides. Or meet and greets which again all meet in "real world" environments.

Getting the animated/fantasy world of Encanto to "fit" in DAK will I believe be far more challenging than live action Avatar. Also all DAK attractions are first person, you are taking part in something - a safari, a mountain expedition, a river raft ride, flying on a banshee - an omnimover ride has never been anything but a third person experience.
 

SamusAranX

Well-Known Member
Disney Fans: We want new attractions at WDW we’ve been waiting for too long
Disney: *starts plans for Tropical Americas land*
Disney Fans: NO YOU’RE DOING IT ALL WRONG NOBODY WANTS THIS
Disney: View attachment 773964
Problem with your scenario here is that these are not “new” attractions, they’re replacements in disguise. Management continues to stubbornly bury their head in the sand. That and they’ve become addicted to the revenue that Genie+ provides and adding new capacity will potentially lower that
 

osian

Well-Known Member
Problem with your scenario here is that these are not “new” attractions, they’re replacements in disguise. Management continues to stubbornly bury their head in the sand. That and they’ve become addicted to the revenue that Genie+ provides and adding new capacity will potentially lower that
Indeed.

Disney fans say: We need more attractions.

Disney hears: The fans want existing custom attractions ripped out and replaced with ill-fitting movie IP.
 

Jeff456

Well-Known Member
I just hope this is all still a good 6 months to a year off... love Dinosaur and really don't feel this stuff is a good fit. I agree the Chester and Hester area looks terrible so anything will be an improvement I just wish they'd leave Dinosaur alone.
 

Phicinfan

Well-Known Member
Indeed.

Disney fans say: We need more attractions.

Disney hears: The fans want existing custom attractions ripped out and replaced with ill-fitting movie IP.
Disney fans would be happy with some replacements, just not all "new" attractions being replacements.

Tron was a new. IF they add to Pandora that will be an add. Yes Dinosaur to Indy is a replacement, but its needed pretty bad.

Just have to balance the load. I personally would love some of this money to fix what they have - SM in MK, SSE and Imagination in Epcot. That would be a huge boon for most
 

osian

Well-Known Member
Yes Dinosaur to Indy is a replacement, but its needed pretty bad.

It's probably a fait accompli, but again a "replacement" isn't needed at all. What's needed is refurbishment and maintenance. A change of theme isn't necessary especially when it doesn't, on the face of it, fit as well as the original theme did. You make the same point when talking about money to fix SM, SSE and Imagination.
 

Phicinfan

Well-Known Member
It's probably a fait accompli, but again a "replacement" isn't needed at all. What's needed is refurbishment and maintenance. A change of theme isn't necessary especially when it doesn't, on the face of it, fit as well as the original theme did.
I disagree, IF you are reverting the area away from Dino area, then you have to remarket Dinosaur to fit that new persona. Could they keep Dinoland and just do what is necessary for Dinosaur, yes. But that ship seems to have sailed.
 

osian

Well-Known Member
I disagree, IF you are reverting the area away from Dino area, then you have to remarket Dinosaur to fit that new persona. Could they keep Dinoland and just do what is necessary for Dinosaur, yes. But that ship seems to have sailed.
Ah yes, IF it has already been decided to change the theme of the area known as Dinoland USA from dinosaurs. What I'm saying is that the theme didn't have to change. You've got some circular reasoning going on here - that the theme of attractions in that area has to change if it's been decided that the theme is changing. We're probably saying the same thing - I've described it as a fait accompli, you've described it as the ship has sailed.
 

TheCoasterNerd

Well-Known Member
So with Encanto coming to Epcot, how might this affect the DAK concept? Now there's Encanto characters in MK (M&G, cavalcade), DHS (Fantasmic IIRC)??, Epcot (CommuniCORE Plaza show), and coming to DAK. They're really milking this movie for all they can get...
 

Andrew25

Well-Known Member
So with Encanto coming to Epcot, how might this affect the DAK concept? Now there's Encanto characters in MK (M&G, cavalcade), DHS (Fantasmic IIRC)??, Epcot (CommuniCORE Plaza show), and coming to DAK. They're really milking this movie for all they can get...
Won't impact anything as this is a temporary show. If Encanto makes its way to DAK, they'll move the M&G there.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
So with Encanto coming to Epcot, how might this affect the DAK concept? Now there's Encanto characters in MK (M&G, cavalcade), DHS (Fantasmic IIRC)??, Epcot (CommuniCORE Plaza show), and coming to DAK. They're really milking this movie for all they can get...
No no... "We're responding to overwhelming demand from Bob to synergize guest demand to see the characters from 'Encanto' in every theme park".
 

LSLS

Well-Known Member
Indeed.

Disney fans say: We need more attractions.

Disney hears: The fans want existing custom attractions ripped out and replaced with ill-fitting movie IP.
Yeah it's weird, cause for a company so budget conscious, it feels like they could spend less money to get people more of what they want. Instead of gutting the entire area and adding a new one, just upgrade Dino and add another dinosaur themed ride. Go over to Pandora, expand that area with another ride (or even 2 if you are so daring). Now you've got 2-3 new rides (which people want) and have spent less than the current plan would have cost (I would assume). Now to add a land later if you want, you have capacity to handle that additional land, and you don't need to close off even more capacity to get there.
 

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