News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

doctornick

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Regarding the Boneyard, I’m hoping they just keep it. It’s an awesome area, easily the best “playground” area in the domestic Disney parks and it can be easily lightly rethemed to be more “archaeology” as opposed to “paleontology” to fit more with IJ. Or honestly, they gave dinosaur bones in South America, you could just simply keep it mostly as is and have it be part of the new land.
 

BrianLo

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That’s my fear. They are going to basically end up with the same number of “attractions” as they did once before. They don’t seem to get we need to ADD more people eater things as well

Something to be said about quality though.

Encanto, whatever it is, would have to be a pretty big whiff to not be better than what it replaces.

Despite claims to the contrary, Dinosaur is not drawing the acclaim or GSATs or G+ bucks that Indy does in Anaheim or Tokyo. I’m not really a fan of Dinosaur, it just feels like such wasted potential. I doubt very many consider it in their top ten list of the resort. Its mistake is trying to out Jurassic Park, Jurassic Park. Likely an Eisner-ism. We didn’t need another dinosaurs are scary take. It’s not like the safari is pedaling a chase with murderous hippos, dinosaurs can have different appeals. Beyond that it’s dark, disorientating and lacks a musical score. It completely turns off a very core dinosaur demographic (little kids).
 

GhostHost1000

Premium Member
Something to be said about quality though.

Encanto, whatever it is, would have to be a pretty big whiff to not be better than what it replaces.

Despite claims to the contrary, Dinosaur is not drawing the acclaim or GSATs or G+ bucks that Indy does in Anaheim or Tokyo. I’m not really a fan of Dinosaur, it just feels like such wasted potential. I doubt very many consider it in their top ten list of the resort. Its mistake is trying to out Jurassic Park, Jurassic Park. Likely an Eisner-ism. We didn’t need another dinosaurs are scary take. It’s not like the safari is pedaling a chase with murderous hippos, dinosaurs can have different appeals. Beyond that it’s dark, disorientating and lacks a musical score. It completely turns off a very core dinosaur demographic (little kids).
Imo it would be easier for them to redo the dinosaur ride and make it a little more family friendly and without needing a chiropractor when it’s over. The loud dark rough scare factor is what hurts its appeal to some (I like it but I get why some don’t). A dinosaur section of the park belongs at AK way more than Indy and Encanto
 

celluloid

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Imo it would be easier for them to redo the dinosaur ride and make it a little more family friendly and without needing a chiropractor when it’s over. The loud dark rough scare factor is what hurts its appeal to some (I like it but I get why some don’t). A dinosaur section of the park belongs at AK way more than Indy and Encanto

The sad thig is Energy Adventure was a good way for kids to see Dinos on a ride in an immersive environment with no height requirement. Anyone under 40 inches or someone not wanting mild thrills is seeing no Dinosaurs at WDW unless they pop in or have dining at T-rex Cafe.
 

GhostHost1000

Premium Member
The sad thig is Energy Adventure was a good way for kids to see Dinos on a ride in an immersive environment with no height requirement. Anyone under 40 inches or someone not wanting mild thrills is seeing no Dinosaurs at WDW unless they pop in or have dining at T-rex Cafe.
true... but Energy Adventure was a very long show/ride... most kids can't sit still that long

I just think Disney is missing out on a big opportunity to have a genuine good dinosaur area and attractions for all ages thay could be popular and sell alot more merch
 

MrPromey

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Are you talking *attractions* or its subset: *rides*?

When it comes to rides, they're equal (give or take temporary closures or rethemes).

When it comes to attractions, WDW has a heck of a lot more.

But some people don't count shows, or zoos, or national pavilions, or films; they only care if the attraction moves them somehow.
I'm counting attractions as Disney themselves counts them as things to do on their own website. Last I checked, judging by what they consider an attraction (show, ride, walk-through, etc.), DL had them beat... Even if the Moana walk-through has tipped the scales since I last went through and counted it all up, I not sure how you get Orlando having a heck of a lot more, again, based on how Disney themselves counts them.

Remember, Disneyland still has things like their Main Street band and their Golden Horseshoe review and streetmosphere (including in places like Frontierland) and other things of that nature that WDW long ago cut their own equivalents of, too.
 
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Zummi Gummi

Pioneering the Universe Within!
I'm counting attractions as Disney themselves counts them as things to do on their own website... and I'm not sure how you get Orlando having a heck of a lot more, again, based on how Disney themselves counts them.

Remember, Disneyland still has things like their band and their Golden Horseshoe review and streetmosphere (including in places like Frontierland) and other things of that nature that WDW long ago cut their own equivalents of, too.
At one point (not sure if they still are), DAK was counting the signs on the walkway as you approached Rafiki's Planet Watch as an "attraction."
 

RSoxNo1

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There’s loads of problems with trackless:
- Warehouse like design with less intimate sets
- No elevation changes unless elevators are introduced (which cause several breakdowns)
- Issues with the LPS that cause a ton of downtime

Rise of the Resistance is proof that if you do anything slightly complex (or “Disney level norm”, if you will) you run into a ton of issues. It deterred Universal from using the system for the Potter MoM ride.
I could see an omnimover being the preferred option for an Encanto ride even though it offers less flexibility. Something with high capacity, reliable and family friendly would be a welcome addition.
 

MrPromey

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Dinosaur is definitely not what I would consider "unpopular". It is typically not a rope dropped attraction and often has a short wait for a couple hours in the morning. But midday it is often at 30-45+ minutes and longer during peak times. It's not like it does not attract any guests, by far.
I think we have a lot of people here who like to confuse their personal opinions and preferences with things like reality and the opinions of the masses.

Personally, I agree the pre-show is incredibly dated. They had no problem booting Lieutenant Dan from Mission Space with someone else using an almost word-for-word identical script and that was a younger ride. I don't really understand how Clair Huxtable, in her late 90's form, at least, has never been replaced or updated.

That's an overnight swap-out that would require zero attraction downtime.

People have commented how they feel the loading platform looks dated. That too isn't something that would take a major amount of time to update and they wouldn't even have to close the ride to do it since there are two loading sides so they could wall off an update them one at a time while keeping the ride going.

But it's just like the maintenance of the dinosaurs, they'd have had to have been bothered to care over the years to make relatively small updates like these to keep the attraction up to date.

They just never bothered to.
 
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RSoxNo1

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To me, this is where things get tricky. Adding more rides increases operating costs and it if doesn't drive more spending to offset that what is the point of doing it from business perspective? If the new rides do drive more attendance it won't solve the capacity problem. Almost a catch 22.
Ultimately they will hit diminishing returns on capacity. The problem is in a park like DHS where it might take 6 rides to reach that level. DAK could get there with three rides.
 

MrPromey

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I would have full faith in the project if he were brought in.
I'd have faith that we'd get the best version we could hope for but fitting a square peg into a round hole is still going to require either some serious shaving of the peg or cutting of the hole.

I like Pandora but I'm not going to pretend a few mental gymnastics don't need to be made to consider it a real fit for AK and obviously, Joe did the best he could to focus on making the place a post-human-conflict environment so he could make it about the alien "nature" in order to make that fit.

I imagine in other hands, that whole project could have turned out very differently and very much for the worse in terms of fit for the park as it was originally conceived but it doesn't take a lot of effort to see where the hole was cut more and the peg was shaved to make that happen.
 
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