ToTBellHop
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The queue setup would be a problem. They don’t have the room for a Mission: Space setup and even that confuses people. Also, California doesn’t really belong. World is much more Epcot. It just needs better visuals.
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News Soarin' Over California returning to EPCOT for a limited time
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Why would a queue famous for being way too wide be an issue for separate lines?
My hot take: Both versions of the ride need to be updated.
The old Cali one has Golden Gate bendy issues and the problems of a camera not giving a really sharp focus. Not to mention the nauseating sped up parts. Also: Hey, kids... GOLF!!
The newer World one has the famous bendy issue of the Eiffel Tower. It also makes weird choices like the Taj Mahal... not exactly one of the seven natural or human-made marvels of the world.
They both have parts where the camera isn't fully synced with forward motion, which is slightly dizzying.
Also, the ride is in The Land... so, do you feature famous natural landmarks, or human constructed landmarks? Let's smash both together!!
Actually, given the state of AI, a lot of these issues can be fixed for both. But that's a lot of resources for some tweaks, and won't drive in more guests. New films would.
LittleBuford
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It’s certainly no less marvelous than the other architectural works featured.
ToTBellHop
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I think FOUR queues in that hallway would be extremely uncomfortable. More claustrophobia-inducing than the small world pandemic queue.
el_super
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I am certainly biased here, but I actually think Soarin' over California does a better job of communicating the concept of "The Land" ... featuring the deserts, mountains, fertile valleys and coast lines of California and only casually touching on how humans have adopted and used those spaces.
Mark Dunne
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How hard can it be for a crew to film 4k landmark movie, honestly i can see Walt himself sitting in for the big show premier of around the world, turning round to the imaginers, and saying ''start again cos this isn't working'' in fact i don't think he would be that polite , its an abomination how they let this get through to the audience without any thought of Eiffel tower, computer generated taj mahal looking so bad in sections A & C.
Andrew25
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California film has run its course (even if its the better "film" the quality is not great for modern standards).
Around the World suits Epcot far more, but has very awkward and annoying scenes.
Now that the rest of Epcot has been beefed up, and Soarin is no longer carrying the park, it needs to draw back guests through "Star Tours-esque" randomized sequences to increase ridership. Pretty much becomes a ghost town during the last 2-3 hours of park ops.
Around the World suits Epcot far more, but has very awkward and annoying scenes.
Now that the rest of Epcot has been beefed up, and Soarin is no longer carrying the park, it needs to draw back guests through "Star Tours-esque" randomized sequences to increase ridership. Pretty much becomes a ghost town during the last 2-3 hours of park ops.
Mark Dunne
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Well we’ve just come back with queue times 60 mins , still an attraction people want to experience.
Andrew25
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To be fair, most folks don't know which version is playing... they just know it's "Soarin" and that it's a must-do no matter what film is playing.
Chip Chipperson
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I think it was mentioned earlier in the thread that the scents make the randomization of scenes impossible. I do agree that the "Over California" film looks dated, having seen it last week. I'd like a whole new film that utilizes the transitions of "Around the World" with some of the CA scenes (like the orange groves). Make it fit both the Land Pavillion AND Epcot in general - eliminate the terrible Eifel Tower scene since it can't work on a curved screen. Keep the elephants and other nature scenes from "Around the World" but add back some of the CA nature scenes (and maybe even a new scene or 2 from elsewhere in the US) and finish at Epcot.
Mark Dunne
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All the time they show literally no love for imagination pavilion , soarin will be a must do . As that side of the park is pretty weak now, real shame actually, to think imagination pavilion used to be A grade , no it’s c-
, thanks for reply 
aladdin2007
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its a D to an F at this point, very bad shape today and the whole pavilion is so outdated and in bad shape.All the time they show literally no love for imagination pavilion , soarin will be a must do . As that side of the park is pretty weak now, real shame actually, to think imagination pavilion used to be A grade , no it’s c-
DisneyCane
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I'd say to re-shoot the CA version and incorporate some better transitions (but still have it match the original score) except I wouldn't be surprised if some of the non-developed scenery is no housing developments.
Tom Morrow
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Honestly what it really needs is to become Soarin' Over Polynesia Starring Moana
Fido Chuckwagon
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Soarin’ over Wish starring whoever the princess is from that movie that nobody has seen.
DisneyCane
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The issue is designing visuals that go with it. It was the combination that made Soarin' over CA an emotionally engaging experience.
Besides the obvious and sometimes laughably bad (Taj Mahal) CGI, the biggest issue with "around the world" is there is no emotional attachment partially because the music doesn't really match the images.
LittleBuford
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I have to say that I’ve never quite understood why people think the Taj Mahal in Soarin’ looks fake. To me, it looks very much like the real building, which I’m lucky enough to have visited (and I’m certainly not insensitive to bad CGI: the rowers in the Polynesian island scene look terrible to me).
mastromjm
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I absolutely adore the themes by Jerry Goldsmith, and Disney was right not to mess with them, but it feels like the visuals came first for Around the World. From there Bruce Broughton (excellent composer in his own right) had to cut and paste the themes with ethnically-appropriate instruments for each scene. So the transitions are super weird and feel like "oh, we need an erhu because now we're in China" etc. I feel like they could build a much better show within the confines of the existing score - or maybe write something wholly new if it can match the brilliance?
osian
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I'm with you on that! It might be the flat-looking walls and windows at the front behind the arches, but they look like that in real life. And CGI could create better models than that if the flatness wasn't real. It's said that the Paris scene is all CGI too. There, I've come out, with something that I've kept quiet about in the face of public opinion. But, you know, CGI is very good these days and it's difficult to tell what's real and what's fake. The obvious things to me are the elephants, polar bears, rowers, balloons, and all the transitions. And I do wonder about the camel and horse riders, people in general, and the waterfall mist. SoC had its share of computer generated objects too.