EPCOT Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

[FigmentFan82]

I can't tell if you're joking but I can name 5 parks that look like this just in New York City alone. Chicago, Philly, Boston, all have parks with similar street furniture and modern landscaping as well. Sections of the The High Line, Brooklyn Bridge Park, Hudson River Park, Bryant Park, Brooklyn Botanic Gardens, I could go on. And those parks do it better than whatever this is.

I love how all those places also have a Spaceship Earth next to their parks as well! Totally identical! No need for a trip to WDW anymore, the highline beckons!

 

[FigmentFan82]

It is fairly disorienting at night due to the lack of actual light (versus show lighting). I'd imagine at some point, one too many trip and falls will happen and they'll make some changes.

Don't get me wrong, I love the show lighting, but it isn't enough to safely walk around.

this seems like a stretch at looking for things to poke holes at

weak

 

[Incomudro]

I can't tell if you're joking but I can name 5 parks that look like this just in New York City alone. Chicago, Philly, Boston, all have parks with similar street furniture and modern landscaping as well. Sections of the The High Line, Brooklyn Bridge Park, Hudson River Park, Bryant Park, Brooklyn Botanic Gardens, I could go on. And those parks do it better than whatever this is.

I walked through Brooklyn Bridge Park twice a week for years from the day it opened 'till I retired three years ago.
I worked for the Supreme Court at Montague street for 36 years.
While I loved Brooklyn Bridge Park, it didn't remind me of this at all - and it's certainly not better than this.

 

[networkpro]

I love how all those places also have a Spaceship Earth next to their parks as well! Totally identical! No need for a trip to WDW anymore, the highline beckons!

Not going to happen. You do realize there are reasons why people leave those places.

 

[monothingie]

I was too lazy to read as it was on the ‘other site’ but apparently the lighting in the ground was malfunctioning last night? Anyone know?

Same issue as the night before. A couple of tracks were switching between the wrong colors.

Don't worry, it will be broken and turned off permanently in a couple of weeks.

It's the Disney way of repairing things.

 

[monothingie]

SO you could say that the new Epcot blows??

 

[Brian]

this seems like a stretch at looking for things to poke holes at

weak

Have you been in person yet?

 

[FigmentFan82]

Have you been in person yet?

if you can't handle the LED lighting package, stay out of the kitchen

 

[Brian]

if you can't handle the LED lighting package, stay out of the kitchen

I'll take that as a 'no.' I've been in person - twice, actually. It's dark. That's subjective, but considering that it is a main artery of the park, I stand by my comments that changes may have to be made once accidents happen.

That's not even a criticism of the design. I think it's lovely, and a much-needed change to EPCOT.

 

[zipadee999]

This is a great aesthetic upgrade that the park needed in my opinion. However, I still think that Disney is far from done if they want to finally ‘fix Epcot.’ The park looks great and that’s a start, but it still struggles in the form of content. I do think guardians was a good move, as it replaced what was the weakest of the OG pavilions IMO. Some changes still feel pointless though. Ratatouille and Moana are good for what they are, they just felt unnecessary when you have an abandoned pavilion, an outdated Omnimover, a severely unpopular pavilion, and a pavilion that’s a shell of itself all rotting away.

I go by the belief that you should fix what you have before getting anything new, and it seems like Disney avoided that. This is the ‘new’ Epcot but you can still see outdated clips of Nigel Channing and barely hear the spaceship earth audio over the squeaking of the ride system. Disney didn’t bother to ‘fix’ Epcot, they just added onto it. The new additions are great, I just feel that they shouldn’t have even broken ground until all existing attractions and infrastructure spaces were up to their highest potential.

The gardens and the new center of the park look awesome though, love the lighting packages.

 

[Fear]

Who believes they can keep up with slightly-inebriated festival goers/locals? Trust me, I’m the first to recognize good CM’s when I’m there.

So how is this space different from any other space in EPCOT? Custodial works hard and does a good job at other, more problematic areas.

You can feel however you want about the executive level decisions on this project, but leave the boots on the ground CMs out of it.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Since EPCOT has become a mostly food festival park, its good to see a lot of seating to eat our $12 food samples.

It's a bit of a walk from the food booths, but its better than eating on the trash cans.

And WE KNOW they will be adding some new food booths in this area.

 

[HauntedPirate]

So how is this space different from any other space in EPCOT? Custodial works hard and does a good job at other, more problematic areas.

You can feel however you want about the executive level decisions on this project, but leave the boots on the ground CMs out of it.

This is not a CM issue and I don't understand why you're trying to pick a fight over it. But I'm not biting.

 

[Fear]

This is not a CM issue and I don't understand why you're trying to pick a fight over it. But I'm not biting.

Okay then, let's back up a bit. What about this area will make it more likely for there to be discarded empty cups, food containers, and strewn chairs than any other location in the park?

 

[Beacon Joe]

what town has a park like this?

A better question would be "What town center shopping center or what corporate office park doesn't have a park like this?"

 

[EeyoreFan#24]

A better question would be "What town center shopping center or what corporate office park doesn't have a park like this?"

I actually said this to myself walking though the area with the circular half concrete/half wood benches. Glad to see I’m not alone.

It’s still a nice area and fits the community theme well it think, but the elements in it are very metro city downtown office/parkish.

 

[Epcot81Fan]

I actually said this to myself walking though the area with the circular half concrete/half wood benches. Glad to see I’m not alone.

It’s still a nice area and fits the community theme well it think, but the elements in it are very metro city downtown office/parkish.

Here come the “But, but, it’s better than something made 40 years ago that was left to rot!!!” crowd!

Because airports in 1982 looked like this:

WDI used to wow and amaze us, now they are just sadly years behind the trend and execute at a lower level of investment and creativity.

But God bless those fans that eat it up (and apparently never get out of Disney parks to understand how woefully behind they are in creative design).

 

[WDWTrojan]

Here come the “But, but, it’s better than something made 40 years ago that was left to rot!!!” crowd!

Because airports in 1982 looked like this:

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WDI used to wow and amaze us, now they are just sadly years behind the trend and execute at a lower level of investment and creativity.

But God bless those fans that eat it up (and apparently never get out of Disney parks to understand how woefully behind they are in creative design).

This has been my thing for years. Imagine if they built a pavilion like this in the middle of Epcot it would be the talk of the country.

 

[J4546]

Here come the “But, but, it’s better than something made 40 years ago that was left to rot!!!” crowd!

Because airports in 1982 looked like this:

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WDI used to wow and amaze us, now they are just sadly years behind the trend and execute at a lower level of investment and creativity.

But God bless those fans that eat it up (and apparently never get out of Disney parks to understand how woefully behind they are in creative design).

you are showing a picture of a project that opened in 2019 that cost 1.7 billion dollars.....lol.

 

[Epcot82Guy]

you are showing a picture of a project that opened in 2019 that cost 1.7 billion dollars.....lol.

To be fair, that's a much larger scale than the central area of FW/WC.

And, if you lump together Guardians, JoW, building demo, Harmonious and the WC Gardens/CommuniCore hall we're getting - we're very likely over $1B here. I realize that adding HARM and Guardians pulls in other facets of the project. I'm just saying there was a lot of money to play with here as well.

EDIT: And yes. Maintenance costs are a fully separate issue. That's a separate conversation.