EPCOT Journey of Water featuring Moana coming to Epcot

Disgruntled Walt

Disgruntled Walt

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MrMichaelJames said:
I really fail to understand how there is such a huge demand for something that is basically window shopping. If anything screams "just view it on youtube" this is it.
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But you can't touch the water strings on YouTube!

I don't get the long lines either. I think it's just demand for something that was behind construction walls for so long and is now here. It could have been anything and it would be jammed.
 
Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

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MrMichaelJames said:
I really fail to understand how there is such a huge demand for something that is basically window shopping. If anything screams "just view it on youtube" this is it.
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The huge demand is because its new its as simple as that.

In a subject that is sort of related. One day we were in EPCOT we saw this insane line that went on forever.

I had to ask one of the folks in line what was this long line was about.

It was passholder magnets.... I was a passholder at the time but I wasn't going to wait in that line for sure.
 
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James Alucobond

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I love that people immediately dismiss this as a temporary blip but point to similar circumstances with, say, limited-time Figment things and claim they’re clear evidence of his ability to sustain heavy engagement long-term. Not saying either is or isn’t the case, but the confirmation bias is real.
 
Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

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James Alucobond said:
I love that people immediately dismiss this as a temporary blip but point to similar circumstances with, say, limited-time Figment things and claim they’re clear evidence of his ability to sustain heavy engagement long-term. Not saying either is or isn’t the case, but the confirmation bias is real.
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I think we need to define temporary. This is going to be MOBBED for 6 months or so.

I really don't think it will be MOBBED indefinitely.
 
TheMaxRebo

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MrMichaelJames said:
I really fail to understand how there is such a huge demand for something that is basically window shopping. If anything screams "just view it on youtube" this is it.
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Having some it, it is really beautiful and the interactive elements are really fun. And honestly feels like they did a great job making it - feels transportive and just fun but with some classic Epcot edutainment elements

It isn't something one would book a trip for or anything and I am sure in 6 months or whatever it won't get too much of a line ... but I do get why people want to check it out and is just something new
 
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Goldmorgan

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Wow, can Disney sink any lower than they are now for incompetence and business decisions. I would clean house with the current management. You would think after Rise of the Resistance (and GOTG, Ratatouille, Tron, name more) they would know how to run a virtual queue ...... wait line process. Instead they use the most dedicated people/fans, a.k.a passholders, to use a guinea pigs for a half baked process. They really need to step it up, my Disney stock is still in the slump and this type of publicity is not going to help it.
 
UNCgolf

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Disstevefan1 said:
I think we need to define temporary. This is going to be MOBBED for 6 months or so.

I really don't think it will be MOBBED indefinitely.
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"Newness" in Disney terms is at least a few years, considering most people don't attend the parks yearly. I'm sure Ratatouille, e.g., is still functionally a brand new attraction for a significant percentage of Disney visitors.

I think this will probably stay busy for a long time, especially with Wonders of Life still empty, Imagination a non-entity, Mission: Space not too popular, and Test Track closing at some point.
 
Disstevefan1

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UNCgolf said:
"Newness" in Disney terms is at least a few years, considering most people don't attend the parks yearly. I'm sure Ratatouille, e.g., is still functionally a brand new attraction for a significant percentage of Disney visitors.

I think this will probably stay busy for a long time, especially with Wonders of Life still empty, Imagination a non-entity, Mission: Space not too popular, and Test Track closing at some point.
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I really don't think this will be MOBBED for a few years.

Once enough of the hard core WDW experts have experienced it, who the normal regular folks go to for advice, the experts will say, "Moana is a nice little attraction and IF THERE IS A SHORT WAIT go on it, otherwise skip it."

Once the word gets around, interest will die down.
 
Chef idea Mickey`=

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MagicHappens1971 said:
I think CMs that have to deal with entitled people like you should be able to bring whoever they’d like to the CM preview.
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I'm referring to Disney going one way then the other with the big big rules. I don't care just make another preview and call it vlogger preview. Meanwhile you think I'm entitled when I can't invite anyone I want because that person has to have an AP Passholder, has to have this anyone in your party you'd want to bring "must"

Like I said if I had a thing called cast member previews then they'd invite go with other cast members and I'd accept they go with family because if we are to stick to rules for AP/DVC then CM previews should be what's it's called in the first place. Fairness is misunderstood
 
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MagicHappens1971

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Chef idea Mickey`= said:
I'm referring to Disney going one way then the other with the big big rules. I don't care just make another preview and call it vlogger preview. Meanwhile you think I'm entitled when I can't invite anyone I want because that person has to have an AP Passholder, has to have this anyone in your party you'd want to bring "must"

Like I said if I had a thing called cast member previews then they'd invite go with other cast members and I'd accept they go with family because if we are to stick to rules for AP/DVC then CM previews should be what's it's called in the first place. Fairness is misunderstood
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It’s an annual passholder preview, only passholders can attend.

CMs can bring friends/family to most previews as a perk of being a CM. It would be ridiculous to say family only, what would you like them to bring birth certificates?

I am an AP and have no problem not being able to bring a guest. They are not an AP.
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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Disstevefan1 said:
I really don't think this will be MOBBED for a few years.

Once enough of the hard core WDW experts have experienced it, who the normal regular folks go to for advice, the experts will say, "Moana is a nice little attraction and IF THERE IS A SHORT WAIT go on it, otherwise skip it."

Once the word gets around, interest will die down.
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It presumably has a pretty low capacity, though. I don't think it will take that many people to create long lines.
 
yensidtlaw1969

yensidtlaw1969

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Chef idea Mickey`= said:
I'm referring to Disney going one way then the other with the big big rules. I don't care just make another preview and call it vlogger preview. Meanwhile you think I'm entitled when I can't invite anyone I want because that person has to have an AP Passholder, has to have this anyone in your party you'd want to bring "must"

Like I said if I had a thing called cast member previews then they'd invite go with other cast members and I'd accept they go with family because if we are to stick to rules for AP/DVC then CM previews should be what's it's called in the first place. Fairness is misunderstood
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But who said the rules would be the same for CMs and APs?

Disney allowed Cast Members to bring whoever they wish. There’s no good reason to expect the exact same from Annual Passholder previews - the purposes of CM previews and AP previews are different and they can conduct them how they choose.
 
Chef idea Mickey`=

Chef idea Mickey`=

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MagicHappens1971 said:
It’s an annual passholder preview, only passholders can attend.

CMs can bring friends/family to most previews as a perk of being a CM. It would be ridiculous to say family only, what would you like them to bring birth certificates?

I am an AP and have no problem not being able to bring a guest. They are not an AP.
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Just tired of the same vlogger having reign same time as CM's and having big EGO. I'll never forget when a cast member said to a guest the skyliner ain't open to the public meanwhile the guest sees a regular guy holding a camera stick hopping on board.
 
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MagicHappens1971

MagicHappens1971

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Chef idea Mickey`= said:
Just tired of the same vlogger having reign same time as CM's and having big EGO. If Disney had front row seats for CM's at an award ceremony those CM seats would be taken by vloggers as well. I'll never forget when a cast member said to a guest the skyliner ain't open to the public meanwhile the guest sees a regular guy holding a camera stick hopping on board.
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How do you know the “regular guy” wasn’t the cast member. This conversation is quite ridiculous
 
Disney Analyst

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Chef idea Mickey`= said:
Just tired of the same vlogger having reign same time as CM's and having big EGO. I'll never forget when a cast member said to a guest the skyliner ain't open to the public meanwhile the guest sees a regular guy holding a camera stick hopping on board.
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Honestly ... this is a weird thing to be upset about. Come across as pure envy. Time to move on.
 

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