Disney's Live Action The Little Mermaid

[CaptainAmerica]

Aladdin was before the pandemic turning box office on its ear

Mario, Maverick, and Jake Sulley 2: Return of the Avatars were after it. What's your point?

 

[CaptainAmerica]

The Little Mermaid is still Poised to keep slightly ahead of Aladdin at this point in their runs with what is looking to be a pretty good hold this weekend…

What on Earth are you talking about? Mermaid is way behind Aladdin. It started behind and it's still behind.

 

[Trauma]

What on Earth are you talking about? Mermaid is way behind Aladdin. It started behind and it's still behind.

It’s not what real it’s how you spin it.

 

[DKampy]

Aladdin was before the pandemic turning box office on its ear
How did it fare internationally?

Not sure…you usually can’t get any international numbers till after the weekend

What on Earth are you talking about? Mermaid is way behind Aladdin. It started behind and it's still behind.

I was talking domestically… apparently you only wanted to quote part of my post to fit your narative

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Not sure…you usually can’t get any international numbers till after the weekend

I was talking domestically… apparently you only wanted to quote part of my post to fit your narative

Why would anybody care how it does domestically alone? The total is what matters and what will determine if this is a success or a failure.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Why would anybody care how it does domestically alone? The total is what matters and what will determine if this is a success or a failure.

While I agree with you, that world-wide is what counts; it seems that for a lot of people, it's really only domestic that counts.

Even the Hollywood trade mags/sites have articles on how a movie is doing using only the domestic figure. I find that frustrating when I'm looking for the worldwide figures... but that's the situation.

And again, while I look toward worldwide figures, it should be noted that international markets can skew comparisons.

• If a film maker 'localizes' the movie with dubs in many languages, they do better than studios that don't.
• Also, American movies have themes, scenes, and types of people that some international markets ban, which makes international comparisons skew a bit.
• Also, the release schedule overseas can be completely different than the domestic release date. Thus, the final take of a movie sometimes isn't know until months later.
• And movies that show up later in the worldwide schedule wind up doing less than expected since the movie had been pirated and 'distributed' before it hits foreign theaters.

So... domestic figures for domestic films are more reliable for direct comparisons since in the U.S., there is little language barriers and no government censorship.

 

[Trauma]

While I agree with you, that world-wide is what counts; it seems that for a lot of people, it's really only domestic that counts.

Even the Hollywood trade mags/sites have articles on how a movie is doing using only the domestic figure. I find that frustrating when I'm looking for the worldwide figures... but that's the situation.

And again, while I look toward worldwide figures, it should be noted that international markets can skew comparisons.

• If a film maker 'localizes' the movie with dubs in many languages, they do better than studios that don't.
• Also, American movies have themes, scenes, and types of people that some international markets ban, which makes international comparisons skew a bit.
• Also, the release schedule overseas can be completely different than the domestic release date. Thus, the final take of a movie sometimes isn't know until months later.
• And movies that show up later in the worldwide schedule wind up doing less than expected since the movie had been pirated and 'distributed' before it hits foreign theaters.

So... domestic figures for domestic films are more reliable for direct comparisons since in the U.S., there is little language barriers and no government censorship.

Can we agree that if Dis though this was just a domestic play they should have had a much smaller budget?

 

[DKampy]

Why would anybody care how it does domestically alone? The total is what matters and what will determine if this is a success or a failure.

No need to get so defensive just because you want Disney to fail… at the end of the day it is worldwide numbers that matter, but I am a charts guy… always have been and I do look at domestic too…I was just reporting numbers…there were several people here that said The Little Mermaid would do well domestic opening weekend, but then crash the second weekend here, but that is not the case

We will see what happens with international numbers…clearly it is not doing as well there and has an uphill climb…,I still think
It is possible to break even and even make s little profit. It has been suggested that Disney was able to negotiate a higher take of the profits from theaters… could be closer to 60%

 

[networkpro]

Can we agree that if Dis though this was just a domestic play they should have had a much smaller budget?

There's this little thing about scoping out any product and what it might bear in terms of costs: Know your audience.

 

[BrianLo]

When you look at it that way, every movie eventually breaks even eventually. Even Plan 9 from Outer Space has made money.

Nope. Deadline publishes some of the final tally’s and started doing some of the biggest loser films. Strange World lost 200 million after everything and Lightyear 100 million.

Maybbeee some Disney movies most of all eventually break even because Disney has a way of pumping up their franchises, but most movies are long buried after a while with little residual income left.

I don’t think that makes mermaid a raging financial success if it breaks even, but it’s still at least on the table.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Aladdin did near 700M international.

I think we can all agree Mermaid isn’t coming close to that.

Yeah…that’s the takeaway

If mermaid does $350 domestically…and that’s gonna be tough…it still needs $450+ international to be mentioned as a “big hit”

 

[Indy_UK]

Saw the Little Mermaid today and think it’s easily the best live action remake they have done. It’s actually better than the cartoon

 

[BlakeW39]

It’s actually better than the cartoon

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Never said it was… just pointing out it is not crashing in it’s 2nd weekend here like some suggested… this is also with the movie losing plenty of it’s premium theaters

This is what happens a lot lately on Disney forums: “success on a diminishing standards scale”

Definitely saw it with wakanda…and Thor: love and stupidity…it was tried early with light year but that wasn’t gonna hold.

Let’s see how it goes. Not decree failure or then claim failure decrees are wrong. Spinning wheels right now

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Aww the Little Mermaid today and think it’s easily the best live action remake they have done. It’s actually better than the cartoon

Interesting

To me the best “remakes” are the ones that weren’t remakes…cruella and malificent

They just get lumped in there sometimes

 

[BlakeW39]

Interesting

To me the best “remakes” are the ones that weren’t remakes…cruella and malificent

They just get lumped in there sometimes

I haven't seen this or Aladdin, nor most of the others to be honest, but I was roped into seeing Cruella. It was alright....not something I'd watch on my own but it was fine. Really strange they tried making one of Disney's most despicable villains into an anti-hero, though. Don't know what caused that trend but....I mean the premise was that she literally wanted to murder puppies....lol

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I haven't seen this or Aladdin, nor most of the others to be honest, but I was roped into seeing Cruella. It was alright....not something I'd watch on my own but it was fine. Really strange they tried making one of Disney's most despicable villains into an anti-hero, though. Don't know what caused that trend but....I mean the premise was that she literally wanted to murder puppies....lol

I think cruella was one of those rare cases when a Disney live action hit the right “cultural moment”…

It pairs nicely with the new supernaturals sorts of antihero genre

Wednesday being an easy, good comp

 

[Californian Elitist]

Saw the Little Mermaid today and think it’s easily the best live action remake they have done. It’s actually better than the cartoon

It does improve upon its animated predecessor in many ways, including Ariel and Eric’s relationship, Eric’s characterization, and Ariel’s characterization.

 

[Indy_UK]

In my opinion of course

I feel it paced the story out much better than a 70 minute cartoon does. When I saw that this was made by Rob Marshall I did wonder what happened with Mary Poppins returns then as this TLM was great. Aladdin was my favourite to date but this has to eclipse it as it’s very well done

Cinema was jam packed

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It does improve upon its animated predecessor in many ways, including Ariel and Eric’s relationship, Eric’s characterization, and Ariel’s characterization.

“Improvement” isn’t really the goal. You’re not trying to disregard the originals because they’re all iconic and a foundation brick for Disney

I think “good take/spin” is what they’re looking for