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'Strange World' Disney's 2022 Animated Film

Rich Brownn

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One of the issues I think is people (parents) are now trained to wait for D+. Many find it hard to justify paying $30-$40 when in less than 2 months they can see it for $10-12. At home. With the kids comfy. Once upon a time if you didn't see it at the theater, a Disney film would come back once every seven years. Then it was "limited release" on home video. Now that same film, in 45 days or less, will be available every day, at any time, for a long period (if not forever) on D+. I'm not sure how Disney Animation will handle this. I don't think you can blow $200 million for a film for streaming services.
 

CaptainAmerica

Well-Known Member
One of the issues I think is people (parents) are now trained to wait for D+. Many find it hard to justify paying $30-$40 when in less than 2 months they can see it for $10-12. At home. With the kids comfy. Once upon a time if you didn't see it at the theater, a Disney film would come back once every seven years. Then it was "limited release" on home video. Now that same film, in 45 days or less, will be available every day, at any time, for a long period (if not forever) on D+. I'm not sure how Disney Animation will handle this. I don't think you can blow $200 million for a film for streaming services.
Why wouldn't that apply to Wakanda Forever? I don't think anything about what you're describing is unique to kids.
 

tcool123

Well-Known Member
Just left the theater after viewing Strange World today!

To the poster staying away because the gay character was doing dangerous actions if being embarrassed around your crush and having an arm around them is dangerous then I do suggest avoiding many of Disney’s animated fare as the straight couple in the film does far worse - they kiss!

Nonsense aside!

The film has an amazing soundtrack that power the gorgeous visuals to power its message. The family dynamic is nice with each of the three Clade men going through their proper arch - supporting characters were nice additions each filling a niche.

I do think the marketing is we a huge issue for this film - as the trailers all maintained themselves to the just the first act of the film, the arrival on the Strange World. I think more effective trailers should’ve focused on why they’re exploring specifically, the family dynamic and of course the odd world instead of pretty much just the focus on the last thing.

Once it all clicked that the Strange World was actually just the internal organism of the body I could understand what everything was and understood the design of the world better.

The whole world being on the back of a turtle was neat to see, and reminds me of various pieces of mythology that state just that - we live on the back of a turtle.

However, the third act lost me a bit. It was still enjoyable, but I would’ve rathered seen more on the family dynamic? I’m not sure but something there was missing.

Then again the whole film is set in a comic.

Overall a 3.5/5 for me it is a nice story of a family reconciling and learning to respect each others journeys and wishes with a touch of sci-fi that helps the film stand out. This isn’t one of the worse films from WDAS, but it was middle of the pack for me.
 

CastAStone

5th gate? Just build a new resort Bob.
I do think the marketing is we a huge issue for this film - as the trailers all maintained themselves to the just the first act of the film, the arrival on the Strange World. I think more effective trailers should’ve focused on why they’re exploring specifically, the family dynamic and of course the odd world instead of pretty much just the focus on the last thing.
I think a good commercial would have been a hype spot on the legend of Jaeger Clade. 🤷‍♂️
 

SuddenStorm

Well-Known Member
Why wouldn't that apply to Wakanda Forever? I don't think anything about what you're describing is unique to kids.

There might be greater pressure for people to see a film like Wakanda Forever on the big screen due to it being a major superhero film. I imagine an animated film is often perceived as more of a 'watch this at home with the family' type movie.
 

mf1972

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we watched it today. not a bad movie, but not at all memorable. we didn’t hate it, but thought it could’ve been better. i’m willing to check it out again whenever it lands on disney+ & maybe have a different opinion on it. 1 thing i will praise it for is that it’s visually impressive. if i’m rating it from 0-4 stars, i’d give it a 2 1/2
 

MarvelCharacterNerd

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I continue to be shocked by the comments about great visuals. Maybe they REALLY are promoting this frilm wrong but from the first artwork we've seen, all I could think was:
"who decided that ANATOMY was a great color palette for a film?"

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I put the image in spoiler tags because it's gross. But it's literally all I can think of when I see the artwork of this movie. It's all... fleshtones and organs. Ick.
 

CastAStone

5th gate? Just build a new resort Bob.
I continue to be shocked by the comments about great visuals. Maybe they REALLY are promoting this frilm wrong but from the first artwork we've seen, all I could think was:
"who decided that ANATOMY was a great color palette for a film?"

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I put the image in spoiler tags because it's gross. But it's literally all I can think of when I see the artwork of this movie. It's all... fleshtones and organs. Ick.
Spoiler

The big twist in the movie is that they’re in something’s body.
 

TwilightZone

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I'm trying to think, is "Lilo & Stitch" Disney's only mainline (aka no marvel, pixar, lucasfilm, etc) "sci-fi" hit? It's not entirely sci fi in its setting, but it does star an alien.
 

CaptainAmerica

Well-Known Member
For me personally. Marvel films benefit from the big screen and sound system experience.

Other films… I can wait.
Maybe that was one of the flaws with the Strange World marketing campaign. Because the VISUALS of the thing look amazing. Maybe they should have emphasized the alien landscapes and added a "see it on the big screen" tag.
 

Sir_Cliff

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I'm trying to think, is "Lilo & Stitch" Disney's only mainline (aka no marvel, pixar, lucasfilm, etc) "sci-fi" hit? It's not entirely sci fi in its setting, but it does star an alien.
I find it hard to consider that a sci-fi film as it's mostly set in Hawaii and, at least for most of the film, Stitch might as well be an ugly koala who washed up from Australia. Wall-E (Pixar, I know) is the only animated sci-fi film I can think of that has been a success and that was at the height of Pixar's winning streak, so I am kind of surprised this one was green lit. I guess they are at least taking some creative risks rather than just writing off animated sci-fi adventures, but it kind of seems like a formula for underwhelming box office.

As for the difference between this and Wakanda Forever, I do think there is something to these big action/super hero films being the one thing people still seem to think are worth seeing on the big screen. I also a large amount of families with young kids who consume Disney entertainment have Disney+ and are at this point kind of trained to see it as a substitute for both loading up the kids and taking them to the cinema for the latest Disney film or having to buy the films on blu-ray, etc. Unless Disney starts drawing out the time until the films are available on Disney+, I think they'll logically have trouble convincing a lot of those families to spend the extra money on tickets instead of trying to teach the kiddies some patience.

Edit: Hmm, probably no point typing any of that as I think it has been said a million times on here anyway!
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
While we wait for the box office numbers to start coming in later this weekend, since theaters were empty yesterday...

I found this statistical breakdown from Deadline on Strange World's first day audiences interesting. This is hard facts and data from a solid industry source, as fresh as a palate of freshly picked Rainier cherries on a warm July morning. ;) 🍒

"Comscore/Screen Engine’s PostTrak and a B CinemaScore. Men over 25 were dominant at 33%, but hated it at 66%. Women over 25 were next in attendance at 24% but gave it a 90% grade; then men under 25 at 23% and 83% grade and women under 25 at 21% who gave the pic its best grade at 92%. Diversity demos were 47% Caucasian, 25% Asian, 22% Hispanic and 6% Black. Not a flashy recommend at 55%."

In short, grown men hated it but grown women loved it. Younger audiences liked it better across both genders. And for some reason, Asians were a huge part of the audience, while Blacks stayed away. Asians make up 7% of Americans, but were 25% of ticket purchasers, while Blacks make up 14% of Americans but were only 6% of ticket purchasers.

Interesting how they can break that all down! The movie industry has great analytics working for it.

 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
One of the issues I think is people (parents) are now trained to wait for D+. Many find it hard to justify paying $30-$40 when in less than 2 months they can see it for $10-12. At home. With the kids comfy.

Agreed. And it's exactly that strategy that seems to have damaged their bloated Studios businesses so badly, and it likely is a huge reason why Bob Chapek was fired suddenly last weekend.

Burbank is bleeding money by handling their film business this way. Especially when they spend $150 to $250 Million producing each film while Americans can wait them out and just see it on Disney+ unlimited times for 8 bucks per month.

Strange World cost $180 Million to produce. Burbank saved money by doing minimal marketing on it, but it's still going to cost them at least one hundred million dollars of money flushed down the toilet. If not two hundred million.

No wonder they are in full panic and crisis mode now.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
a B CinemaScore.
That's pretty bad.
  • Cars 2 got an A-.
  • Ralph Breaks the Internet got an A-.
  • Rise of Skywalker got a B+.
  • Eternals got a B.
  • A Wrinkle in Time and Tomorrowland got a B.
There is, tho, a slim chance, a very slim chance, that it got such a low score because opening crowds really didn't understand it, but, it resonates with wider audience later. That happened to "The Nightmare Before Christmas" which initially got a B+, but then, eventually, high scores from critics and the audience.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
As of 4:30pm Mountain Standard Time, Americans awaking from their tryptophan hangover and looking to see a movie this weekend will now find this cherry picked data on Rotten Tomatoes website, based on the last two days of Strange World feedback...

Not really a ringing endorsement, is it? But I guess it could be worse. 🤷‍♂️

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networkpro

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
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While we wait for the box office numbers to start coming in later this weekend, since theaters were empty yesterday...

I found this statistical breakdown from Deadline on Strange World's first day audiences interesting. This is hard facts and data from a solid industry source, as fresh as a palate of freshly picked Rainier cherries on a warm July morning. ;) 🍒

"Comscore/Screen Engine’s PostTrak and a B CinemaScore. Men over 25 were dominant at 33%, but hated it at 66%. Women over 25 were next in attendance at 24% but gave it a 90% grade; then men under 25 at 23% and 83% grade and women under 25 at 21% who gave the pic its best grade at 92%. Diversity demos were 47% Caucasian, 25% Asian, 22% Hispanic and 6% Black. Not a flashy recommend at 55%."

In short, grown men hated it but grown women loved it. Younger audiences liked it better across both genders. And for some reason, Asians were a huge part of the audience, while Blacks stayed away. Asians make up 7% of Americans, but were 25% of ticket purchasers, while Blacks make up 14% of Americans but were only 6% of ticket purchasers.

Interesting how they can break that all down! The movie industry has great analytics working for it.

Interesting breakdown indeed, but their (Disney) problem is they cant attract sufficient numbers of those who rate it higher... a customer is a customer as long as they pay for a seat and hopefully enough to recoup the studios outlay to get it to market.
 

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