'Strange World' Disney's 2022 Animated Film

[TP2000]

This one is going to tank hard.

I'm beginning to think that too. With a bloated budget of $120 Million. Yikes.

At least with Buzz Lightyear you had a known character. This one has a bunch of people that look like extras in Lightyear. Plus the trailer is strange and it doesn't grab me at all. I wouldn't even watch it on Disney+ for free.

That's my biggest problem with this too; the aesthetics of it all. It looks cheap and fake, like a computer generated cartoon from a second-rate studio that goes straight into the $5 DVD bin at WalMart.

The aesthetics. The look. The visuals. Strange World and it's characters looks... cheap.

Disney has to stop making these niche movies that the masses don't want to see.

At some point, when the stock price declines another 40% or 50%, sanity might return to Burbank conference rooms. And they'll remember that they are not making movies for a handful of elites on Twitter, but they are making movies for tens of millions of American families in places like Boise and Birmingham and Billings and Buffalo.

But I don't think Burbank is there yet at that course correction. They still think they should be lecturing audiences instead of entertaining them. Let the stock price dive some more though and let them lose a few hundred million more on each movie release, and they'll eventually come around.

 

[MisterPenguin]

But when they all look the same, who can keep track of that?

<shrug>

Normies can't keep track of the Disneyland v. Magic Kingdom.

 

[erasure fan1]

But I don't think Burbank is there yet at that course correction. They still think they should be lecturing audiences instead of entertaining them. Let the stock price dive some more though and let them lose a few hundred million more on each movie release, and they'll eventually come around.

Will they though? This current group of dill holes in charge really seem to be too stubborn to course correct. I don't see any real change happening until there is all new management.

 

[MisterPenguin]

They got someone for Black Widow that couldn't direct action scenes.

Plus a writer for She-Hulk that couldn't write about Super Heroes or Lawyers and Court Scenes. And judging from the show she can't write Comedy either.

My opinion is the opposite of your opinion.

 

[Phroobar]

Some opinions are correct and others are completely wrong.

 

[Disney Irish]

Experienced and established directors typically know how to tell a better story and are more willing to fight for changes. Someone right out film school doesn't want to screw up so they aren't going to fight for better story direction. They are afraid of being replaced. I think this happened a number of times at Lucasfilm. They start out with an experienced director that doesn't want to follow the studio rules and they depart. Marvel seems to start with the "college grad" and tell them what to do resulting in bad direction most of the time.

There is something to be said about hiring experienced people that cost money instead of cheeping out on the guy with no resume. You may get lucky but most of the time you won't.

Problem with this thinking is those directors you're talking about also won't touch a film for less than $15-20M plus points on the back end. Add that to the cast and the rest of the crew and you're already at $125-200M before you even started filming. And once you finish post-productions you'll end up with a film that costs $350-500M to make. And that doesn't even include the marketing costs, which pushes it up to $750M or more. Disney/Marvel would have to start hitting $2B regularly with these movies just to recoup their cost.

MCU films are already some of the most expensive films made, but that would be ridiculous.

 

[BuddyThomas]

Why wasn't the Eternals up for best picture? Seems like if she could win best picture for Nomandland, a low budget indie film, she could easily win best picture for the Eternals with a huge budget. Why did she succeed in one and fail completely with the other?

Yea because many superhero movies get nominated for Best Picture.

 

[Phroobar]

Yea because many superhero movies get nominated for Best Picture.

It does happen but they rarely win. Some art house type film usually wins.

 

[Prince-1]

It does happen but they rarely win. Some art house type film usually wins.

Besides Black Panther name one other superhero movie that was nominated for best picture. And rarely indicates that one has won before.

 

[Prince-1]

Why wasn't the Eternals up for best picture? Seems like if she could win best picture for Nomandland, a low budget indie film, she could easily win best picture for the Eternals with a huge budget. Why did she succeed in one and fail completely with the other?

This isn‘t how that works. The budget has nothing to do with getting a nomination otherwise we’d see the new Jurassic Park movies up for best picture.

 

[Phroobar]

Besides Black Panther name one other superhero movie that was nominated for best picture. And rarely indicates that one has won before.

I could be wrong but didn't the Watchmen get nominated? Probably am wrong.

 

[Phroobar]

This isn‘t how that works. The budget has nothing to do with getting a nomination otherwise we’d see the new Jurassic Park movies up for best picture.

Doesn't it have more to do with the studios promotion of the movie and lots of politics?

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Doesn't it have more to do with the studios promotion of the movie and lots of politics?

Being a drama, preferably with social commentary, that very few people see seems to be the secret.

Comedies, action movies, popcorn flicks, superhero movies (aka fun movies) typically never get nominated, which probably explains why I’ve only seen 4 of the winners from the last 20 years.

 

[Ghost93]

Chloe Zhao's directing was the best thing about Eternals. All of the problems with that movie had to do with the script and trying to cram in WAAAAY too many characters, mythology and plot lines within a 2.5 hour movie. Eternals either needed to be a four hour film, a two-part film or a Disney Plus miniseries in order to adequately tell the story it wanted to tell.

 

[Prince-1]

I could be wrong but didn't the Watchmen get nominated? Probably am wrong.

You are wrong. Black Panther is the only superhero movie nominated for best picture.

 

[Prince-1]

Doesn't it have more to do with the studios promotion of the movie and lots of politics?

Those certainly do play a large part in it. Most big budget movies do not get nominated for best picture.

 

[Disney Irish]

You are wrong. Black Panther is the only superhero movie nominated for best picture.

Joker also got nominated for Best Picture. And while I don't consider it a "superhero" movie, it is still in the category.

There was also a huge push to get SM:NWH nominated for Best Picture as well, but it didn't quite make the cut.

 

[DKampy]

Being a drama, preferably with social commentary, that very few people see seems to be the secret.

Comedies, action movies, popcorn flicks, superhero movies (aka fun movies) typically never get nominated, which probably explains why I’ve only seen 4 of the winners from the last 20 years.

You might be surprised… I always make it a point to check which movies I have not seen of the ones nominated and watch any I have not seen before the Oscars ceremon…I don’t always agree…but I did last year…CODA was my favorite movie of the year and it won best picture…I think if more people saw it they would agree…it was a crowd pleaser

 

[Prince-1]

Joker also got nominated for Best Picture. And while I don't consider it a "superhero" movie, it is still in the category.

There was also a huge push to get SM:NWH nominated for Best Picture as well, but it didn't quite make the cut.

Definitely not a superhero movie but I’m good with counting it based on the source material it came from.

 

[Prince-1]

You might be surprised… I always make it a point to check which movies I have not seen of the ones nominated and watch any I have not seen before the Oscars ceremon…I don’t always agree…but I did last year…CODA was my favorite movie of the year and it won best picture…I think if more people saw it they would agree…it was a crowd pleaser

Coda was great.