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News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

Rteetz

Rteetz

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MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

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mattpeto said:
Probably.

I still find it odd that there are rumors that Splash could be closing soon and they listed as an attraction during the party.
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I'm sure there's small print somewhere that says something to the effect "may not actually be available."

Which is needed in case the ride has to go down for repairs. They don't want guests suing them for claiming that Ride X will be available when it wasn't.

I've been to several MK AH events which listed 7DMT as an available ride and it was down the entire time of the event.

The list is not binding and subject to change and often wrong.
 
No Name

No Name

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MisterPenguin said:
I'm sure there's small print somewhere that says something to the effect "may not actually be available."

Which is needed in case the ride has to go down for repairs. They don't want guests suing them for claiming that Ride X will be available when it wasn't.

I've been to several MK AH events which listed 7DMT as an available ride and it was down the entire time of the event.

The list is not binding and subject to change and often wrong.
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It’s not even small print.

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mattpeto

mattpeto

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lazyboy97o said:
Disney isn’t that coordinated. They’re not sharing those sorts of plans with the website people.
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Yes, we disagree here. There has to be some level of coordination since Very Merriest changed to MVMCP overnight on the website.

Yes the line is pretty clear that attractions can be "subject to change" @MisterPenguin and @egg . I still find it a weird and random attraction to list since there's only a handful so far and that's the rumored one to be closing soon.

We'll know soon more in a week or so about Splash future, hopefully.
 
trainplane3

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mattpeto said:
Yes, we disagree here. There has to be some level of coordination since Very Merriest changed to MVMCP overnight on the website.

Yes the line is pretty clear that attractions can be "subject to change" @MisterPenguin and @egg . I still find it a weird and random attraction to list since there's only a handful so far and that's the rumored one to be closing soon.

We'll know soon more in a week or so about Splash future, hopefully.
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Ride closings are fluid especially for a refurb that isn't 100% locked in. As an example of how fluid things are, UoE got new carpeting in theater 2 about 2 months before its closure.

Site admins are some of the last to get real updates as shown from the other thread covering entertainment changes.
 
Disney Glimpses

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mattpeto said:
If you believe the rumors that when Splash Mountain closes, TRON will open, I have some news for you:

Looks what's going to be up and running during MVMCP (I know: subject to change)

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I have a feeling on where that rumor came from. While all things are pointing to Splash closing soon, it does not appear they are going to do a direct capacity swap here. They can use the added capacity during the holidays.
 
TheMaxRebo

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disneyglimpses said:
I have a feeling on where that rumor came from. While all things are pointing to Splash closing soon, it does not appear they are going to do a direct capacity swap here. They can use the added capacity during the holidays.
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who know if they will do this but get Tron open mid November and is open for the holiday crowds - including a selling point for paying for the holiday party - and keep Splash up. You could announce when it will close for the refurb (I think just closing it in Jan/Feb like for when it normally goes down for maintenance) and that will increase demand for it for people to get in their "one last ride"

To me that makes sense .... so they probably won't do it
 
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mlayton144

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TheMaxRebo said:
who know if they will do this but get Tron open mid November and is open for the holiday crowds - including a selling point for paying for the holiday party - and keep Splash up. You could announce when it will close for the refurb (I think just closing it in Jan/Feb like for when it normally goes down for maintenance) and that will increase demand for it for people to get in their "one last ride"

To me that makes sense .... so they probably won't do it
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I dont think they will have any problem selling the Christmas parties , tron or no tron
 
TheMaxRebo

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mlayton144 said:
I dont think they will have any problem selling the Christmas parties , tron or no tron
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I don't think so either, but the cheapest party is like $40 more than the cheapest Halloween one - could at least be another way to justify that variance

(This is also me being optimistic as we are going in mid December and would like Tron to be open so I am looking for any reason to make that case :D)
 
bpiper

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UpAllNight said:
There is not a chance in high hell a coaster like Tron should cost this much.

It's a launched Vekoma with some screens, where the R&D has already been paid for, for heck sake. There's some serious fudging of accounting figures going on.
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I suspect that a Significant amount went into that large building. With the size of that building, the wind loads on it would be tremendous during a hurricane. The normal outer columns would have to be significantly larger. They not only have to hold the vertical weight of the building but have to handle the lateral forces of the wind. Think large steel I beam used for a floor turned vertical. That a lot more money. Then you have to have all the lateral cross bracing to keep the building from racking (twisting in the wind.) Don't forget the concrete slab. I remembered Disney doing a time lapse video of the continuous pour of the concrete floor for the guardians building.

That foundation pour took 17 hours, with the help of 300 workers, and included 80 miles of rebar, 960 truckloads or 9260 cubic yards of concrete, and covered 72000 sq ft.
Just the cost of that concrete alone never mind the rebar would be over a million dollars. That's over 3 feet of concrete thick. To support all that weight, you would have to drive a lot of friction piles into the ground. That isn't cheep either.
 
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UpAllNight

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bpiper said:
I suspect that a Significant amount went into that large building. With the size of that building, the wind loads on it would be tremendous during a hurricane. The normal outer columns would have to be significantly larger. They not only have to hold the vertical weight of the building but have to handle the lateral forces of the wind. Think large steel I beam used for a floor turned vertical. That a lot more money. Then you have to have all the lateral cross bracing to keep the building from racking (twisting in the wind.) Don't forget the concrete slab. I remembered Disney doing a time lapse video of the continuous pour of the concrete floor for the guardians building.

That foundation pour took 17 hours, with the help of 300 workers, and included 80 miles of rebar, 960 truckloads or 9260 cubic yards of concrete, and covered 72000 sq ft.
Just the cost of that concrete alone never mind the rebar would be over a million dollars. That's over 3 feet of concrete thick. To support all that weight, you would have to drive a lot of friction piles into the ground. That isn't cheep either.
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Fair points...but $350million?
 
JoeCamel

JoeCamel

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bpiper said:
I suspect that a Significant amount went into that large building. With the size of that building, the wind loads on it would be tremendous during a hurricane. The normal outer columns would have to be significantly larger. They not only have to hold the vertical weight of the building but have to handle the lateral forces of the wind. Think large steel I beam used for a floor turned vertical. That a lot more money. Then you have to have all the lateral cross bracing to keep the building from racking (twisting in the wind.) Don't forget the concrete slab. I remembered Disney doing a time lapse video of the continuous pour of the concrete floor for the guardians building.

That foundation pour took 17 hours, with the help of 300 workers, and included 80 miles of rebar, 960 truckloads or 9260 cubic yards of concrete, and covered 72000 sq ft.
Just the cost of that concrete alone never mind the rebar would be over a million dollars. That's over 3 feet of concrete thick. To support all that weight, you would have to drive a lot of friction piles into the ground. That isn't cheep either.
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Not as much as they spent. It is obscene to spend that much on a single ride that not everyone will be able to get on at the expense of other possible uses for it
 

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