Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[DisneyCane]

One thing I think that COVID did to WDW was entrenched the willingness of a high percentage of parents to take their kids out of school to go to WDW during the "off season" or better weather periods. I think all of the school closures and remote "learning" cemented the attitude that it's no big deal to for a kid to miss school for a week or so to have the "vacation of a lifetime."

 

[Jacob Marley]

Great, now I have to worry about just dropping dead and hitting my head.

I've witnessed family suffer through cancer and Alzheimer's.
The sudden fall would be a blessing compared to those more common alternatives.

 

[DisneyCane]

I've witnessed family suffer through cancer and Alzheimer's.
The sudden fall would be a blessing compared to those more common alternatives.

I agree completely. My dad had dementia which was getting worse rapidly when he had a brain hemorrhage in August 2020 and passed within a week of the event without pain or suffering. After witnessing my Aunt's dementia getting to the point where she is living in an alternate reality I am actually thankful that my dad didn't have to go through that stage of the disease.

One of the best lines in any song was the verse in "The Gambler" that goes:

'Cause every hand's a winner
And every hand's a loser
And the best you can hope for
Is to die in your sleep

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

WDW is absolutely a unique setting. Not sure how that's even a debate. Your local restaurant is not packing in the volume of tens of thousands of people from all over the country on a regular basis.

Huh? Really depends where you live. I'd venture to say urban areas regularly host people from all over the country.

Also anyone who lives near a highway, airport or other transportation hub.

 

[Jrb1979]

WDW is absolutely a unique setting. Not sure how that's even a debate. Your local restaurant is not packing in the volume of tens of thousands of people from all over the country on a regular basis.

I don't know. I was just in Sandusky Ohio and their restaurants are packed all summer

 

[disneygeek90]

I don't know. I was just in Sandusky Ohio and their restaurants are packed all summer

I’m saying a packed restaurant doesn’t compare to WDW and the sheer amount of people that are hanging around the same general location for the entire day.

 

[Lilofan]

I've witnessed family suffer through cancer and Alzheimer's.
The sudden fall would be a blessing compared to those more common alternatives.

Suffering through terminal illness is heartbreaking for all. Fortunately hospice came to our home daily during my last week of my father’s life . That group are angels.

 

[correcaminos]

I’m saying a packed restaurant doesn’t compare to WDW and the sheer amount of people that are hanging around the same general location for the entire day.

Sandusky is home to Cedar Point. More similar than you think.

 

[disneygeek90]

Sandusky is home to Cedar Point. More similar than you think.

I’ve been to cedar point back when I lived in Ohio. Great Wolf Lodge, too. Still no where close.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I’m saying a packed restaurant doesn’t compare to WDW and the sheer amount of people that are hanging around the same general location for the entire day.

It’s definitely higher risk than a normal day running errands to the grocery store and grabbing a bite to eat but I’m not sure I’d call it unique. I was just watching a video from the Star Wars conference in Anaheim and there‘s thousands milling inside shoulder to shoulder for the entire day, Hockey and Basketball playoffs are packing in 20,000 like sardines screaming for hours, I worked a concert last night with 5,000 people singing and screaming for 3 hours, the casinos here are packed for Memorial Day, etc. Massive events are happening all across the country.

One thing I‘ve noticed while at the parks is we’re rarely in close proximity indoors to the same people for extended periods of time, which is when they say risk is the highest.

 

[correcaminos]

I’ve been to cedar point back when I lived in Ohio. Great Wolf Lodge, too. Still no where close.

You must think Universal is unlike Disney then too?

 

[drizgirl]

It’s definitely higher risk than a normal day running errands to the grocery store and grabbing a bite to eat but I’m not sure I’d call it unique. I was just watching a video from the Star Wars conference in Anaheim and there‘s thousands milling inside shoulder to shoulder for the entire day, Hockey and Basketball playoffs are packing in 20,000 like sardines screaming for hours, I worked a concert last night with 5,000 people singing and screaming for 3 hours, the casinos here are packed for Memorial Day, etc. Massive events are happening all across the country.

One thing I‘ve noticed while at the parks is we’re rarely in close proximity indoors to the same people for extended periods of time, which is when they say risk is the highest.

Seeing a movie might be a higher risk becuase of the prolonged indoor exposure.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

How did that one person effect things up in Canada where you live? Or in the 193 other countries? He must have been quite influential!

The response became political because it IS political. The response to a pandemic consists of public policy.

The definition of "political" is "relating to the government or the public affairs of a country."

Canada, among other countries, has higher vaccination rates and less resistance to masks and other mitigations, despite the USA having access to vaccines first.

Some things are political in nature, like whether or not to close theme parks, but vaccines never should have been. Yet, people politicized them.

 

[ABQ]

Anybody who thinks there is any place where there are other people and it is impossible to be infected is deluded.

I picked Birx because I remembered her speaking about it. I'm sure if I dug around I could find Fauci saying something similar.

As for the "raid," have you watched the full length body cam video? Not exactly reminiscent of an action movie. https://www.tallahassee.com/story/n...s-raid-florida-fdle-bodycam-video/3885998001/

Didn't see this posted in the past week, but a follow up on this very old story. Seems her claims of FL hiding data have no basis in facts. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...dence-desantis-critics-claims-covid-rcna30647

 

[Jrb1979]

Canada, among other countries, has higher vaccination rates and less resistance to masks and other mitigations, despite the USA having access to vaccines first.

Some things are political in nature, like whether or not to close theme parks, but vaccines never should have been. Yet, people politicized them.

Agreed.

I can understand how policies became political. There is no reason the vaccines should have got to that point. Same with masks.

 

[Heppenheimer]

As unnecessarily politicized as the vaccines were, I really hope the same bunch of people with malignant intent don't go after paxlovid. I am very impressed with the real-world efficacy of this drug combo, particularly in the fully vaccinated population. It's turned what was a deadly disease into a very treatable nuisance.

As much as I respect Dr. Fauci, I actually wish he wasn't promoting the drug. There's some out there who have been conditioned to automatically nay-say everyting out of his mouth, and these are likely to be the same unvaccinated individuals who are most likely to benefit from paxlovid.

 

[What Eliza Said]

As unnecessarily politicized as the vaccines were, I really hope the same bunch of people with malignant intent don't go after paxlovid. I am very impressed with the real-world efficacy of this drug combo, particularly in the fully vaccinated population. It's turned what was a deadly disease into a very treatable nuisance.

As much as I respect Dr. Fauci, I actually wish he wasn't promoting the drug. There's some out there who have been conditioned to automatically nay-say everyting out of his mouth, and these are likely to be the same unvaccinated individuals who are most likely to benefit from paxlovid. Or perhaps, ivermectin is still the hill they choose to die on.

You posted a few days ago about the benefits of Paxlovid that you've witnessed amongst your patients. I found that encouraging. My family has managed to avoid contracting Covid so far but we are gradually returning to prepandemic activities. Obviously that comes with more risk than staying home. I looked into Paxlovid, how to get it if needed. Everything I found said that it's only being used for high risk people. What is the procedure for acquiring it? Does an infected individual call their primary care office and then the physician determines risk? I'm curious about how hard it really is for people to get. With the limited window for usefulness it seems like having a plan in advance makes sense. Are there any factors that make it unsafe for certain patients?

 

[Bullseye1967]

As unnecessarily politicized as the vaccines were, I really hope the same bunch of people with malignant intent don't go after paxlovid. I am very impressed with the real-world efficacy of this drug combo, particularly in the fully vaccinated population. It's turned what was a deadly disease into a very treatable nuisance.

As much as I respect Dr. Fauci, I actually wish he wasn't promoting the drug. There's some out there who have been conditioned to automatically nay-say everyting out of his mouth, and these are likely to be the same unvaccinated individuals who are most likely to benefit from paxlovid. Or perhaps, ivermectin is still the hill they choose to die on.

My 89 year old father currently has COVID-19 and is on Paxlovid. What are your thoughts on the CDC release that spoke of rebound cases of COVID-19 for people treated with Paxlovid?

 

[correcaminos]

My 89 year old father currently has COVID-19 and is on Paxlovid. What are your thoughts on the CDC release that spoke of rebound cases of COVID-19 for people treated with Paxlovid?

I know one person who rebounded. But their health situation is different. Even with 4 shots the immune system was just bunk. Vaccines never really work well on them. Fortunately their rebound wasn't bad but still was troubling given their health situation (permanent disability). Trials only showed 2% rebounding and oddly happens in non medicated patients to. Shoot that's even what happened to a loved one. Released from the hospital only to return and pass away.

 

[Bullseye1967]

I know one person who rebounded. But their health situation is different. Even with 4 shots the immune system was just bunk. Vaccines never really work well on them. Fortunately their rebound wasn't bad but still was troubling given their health situation (permanent disability). Trials only showed 2% rebounding and oddly happens in non medicated patients to. Shoot that's even what happened to a loved one. Released from the hospital only to return and pass away.

He is on chemotherapy, so similar situation. Little or no immunity.