Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[MisterPenguin]

The CDC was going to lift the mandate for planes anyway.

This appeals is just to affirm the right for the CDC to mandate masks if it deems necessary.

 

[Heelz2315]

I'm not so sure. Something tells me if the court sides with the CDC, the masks will come back on planes pretty darn quick, which won't go over well at all. I can only imagine the verbal abuse the flight attendants will catch if that were to happen. It'd be a total move on the part of the CDC if they were to do that I think. I don't think the American public would be happy about it at all. I could be wrong though, but i don't think so.

 

[correcaminos]

I'm not so sure. Something tells me if the court sides with the CDC, the masks will come back on planes pretty darn quick, which won't go over well at all. I can only imagine the verbal abuse the flight attendants will catch if that were to happen. It'd be a total move on the part of the CDC if they were to do that I think. I don't think the American public would be happy about it at all. I could be wrong though, but i don't think so.

I actually disagree. This is about future ability to control, not current

 

[Heelz2315]

I actually disagree. This is about future ability to control, not current

So you don't think they'll (CDC) will reinstate the mandate if they win? Did I read that right?

 

[correcaminos]

So you don't think they'll (CDC) will reinstate the mandate if they win? Did I read that right?

Yes you read that right. This is about control for issues in the future, not current situations.

 

[MisterPenguin]

So you don't think they'll (CDC) will reinstate the mandate if they win? Did I read that right?

That's correct. As I said, they were about to let the travel mandate expire. It was in the news when the injunction was first imposed by the court. People were wondering with the Administration would bother fighting it since the mandate would expire before the injunction could be overturned on appeal.

 

[Heelz2315]

Gotcha......I wonder what the timeline is now? I think I read where the appeal would take 30 days, but I'm not so sure about that.

 

[DisneyCane]

The CDC was going to lift the mandate for planes anyway.

This appeals is just to affirm the right for the CDC to mandate masks if it deems necessary.

I don't see any evidence that the mandate was going to be dropped. Everything pointed to them continuing to make last minute extensions in perpetuity.

I don't think they will want the nightmare of reinstituting it if they win the appeal. If that was the intention they would have filed for an emergency injunction.

I agree that the reason they went ahead with the appeal is to try and establish that the CDC has the power to do things like this.

Of course, the proper way to establish that power would be to pass a bill and sign it into law that clearly establishes the intended authority of the CDC. Of course, we wouldn't want to do anything so straightforward because that would require members of Congress to be on the record with a vote.

 

[DisneyCane]

Gotcha......I wonder what the timeline is now? I think I read where the appeal would take 30 days, but I'm not so sure about that.

I think the plaintiff has 30 days to respond. The court system doesn't tend to act that quickly.

 

[Andrew C]

I don't think they will want the nightmare of reinstituting it if they win the appeal. If that was the intention they would have filed for an emergency injunction.

"The Federal Aviation Administration said this month the rate of unruly air passenger incidents fell to its lowest level since late 2020 soon after the judge’s mask mandate ruling"

 

[Andrew C]

Hospitalizations flattening....

 

[correcaminos]

Hospitalizations flattening....
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Some regions are seeing decreases or even flattening of cases too.

 

[danlb_2000]

Some regions are seeing decreases or even flattening of cases too.

Yeah, New York is clearly trending downwards..

 

[Kevin_W]

Hospitalizations flattening....
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Good to see, and good that the peak in hospitalization is looking much lower than the original Omicron wave a few months ago.

Locally, my personal sphere (co-workers, friends, church members) seems to be having it's highest # of cases since the start of the pandemic.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I don't see any evidence that the mandate was going to be dropped. Everything pointed to them continuing to make last minute extensions in perpetuity.

I don't think they will want the nightmare of reinstituting it if they win the appeal. If that was the intention they would have filed for an emergency injunction.

I agree that the reason they went ahead with the appeal is to try and establish that the CDC has the power to do things like this.

Of course, the proper way to establish that power would be to pass a bill and sign it into law that clearly establishes the intended authority of the CDC. Of course, we wouldn't want to do anything so straightforward because that would require members of Congress to be on the record with a vote.

There was plenty of evidence from those who would know (since they were party to conversations). Just like we are now hearing that the requirement for testing before international travel (by plane) will end soon while cruise ships will continue to have arbitrarily more stringent protocols into 2023.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Good to see, and good that the peak in hospitalization is looking much lower than the original Omicron wave a few months ago.

Locally, my personal sphere (co-workers, friends, church members) seems to be having it's highest # of cases since the start of the pandemic.

I’ve experienced the same, a couple weeks ago I had a half dozen coworkers test positive, including myself, the good news is we’ve all had mild cases and no one’s required medication or hospitalization. I know people hate flu comparisons but that’s what it feels like, although over a longer time, one worker got it and spread it around and a few weeks later we’re all healthy (more or less) and back at work. The most interesting thing right now is comparing our various lingering affects, we’re all “healthy“ again and most have zero side affects but I still get some vertigo (if I stand to quickly for example), one coworker is still lethargic, etc… it feels similar to a flu outbreak but with long term unknowns.

No one’s tested positive this week so it feels like it’s ran its course in our employment circle, hopefully that means we won’t have another outbreak at work this year.

 

[danlb_2000]

Good to see, and good that the peak in hospitalization is looking much lower than the original Omicron wave a few months ago.

Locally, my personal sphere (co-workers, friends, church members) seems to be having it's highest # of cases since the start of the pandemic.

There is a community theater near me that tried to open a musical a few weeks ago. One of the cast members had been infected and spread it to 18 others in the cast. They ended up having to delay the opening by a week.

 

[danlb_2000]

There was plenty of evidence from those who would know (since they were party to conversations). Just like we are now hearing that the requirement for testing before international travel (by plane) will end soon while cruise ships will continue to have arbitrarily more stringent protocols into 2023.

I don't know if I would consider the more stringent requirements for cruise ships to be arbitrary considering how often we would hear about outbreaks of diseases on cruise ships even before the pandemic.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

I don't know if I would consider the more stringent requirements for cruise ships to be arbitrary considering how often we would hear about outbreaks of diseases on cruise ships even before the pandemic.

Also, wasn't there just a cruise ship that had an outbreak of 200+ cases? Imagine how much worse it would have been with no restrictions and unvaccinated guests allowed.

 

[Andrew C]

how often we would hear about outbreaks of diseases on cruise ships even before the pandemic.

Prior to the pandemic, you heard about them because they were obligated to report them, which is unique compared to other industries.