EPCOT New Play Pavilion to replace Epcot's Wonders of Life

[ToTBellHop]

Thanks!

Now I’m left wondering which resort they might choose to do this at. At DLP they went with one of their top tier hotels.

Seriously unlikely to be GF. Poly and Contemporary have already been done. And I think we can rule out AKL and probably WL.

I’m thinking Boardwalk.

The YC and BC have a theme that doesn’t really fit with Marvel particularly well as far as I can tell (not being a Marvel fan at all). The Hotel New York fitted quite well at DLP. Could the Boardwalk work as a Marvel theme?

They’re already renovating BWI so I think that ship has sailed. I think the reason we haven’t seen it yet is that it would lead to confusion with Universal (it’s one thing to promote a movie or have a gift shop or ride with characters not at Universal but another to have a hotel with Spider-Man when the competitor has a very popular Spidey ride) and the fact that it would honestly need a new build. They’re not interested in new deluxe or moderate resorts. Only way I could see it is a DVC Marvel tower. Replacing the South Garden Wing would make the most sense to me. It would complement The Incredibles.

 

[doctornick]

I think Marvel would be a decent concept for Pop Century if they didn't mind putting it in one of their "cheaper" hotels.

 

[Mickeynerd17]

I think Marvel would be a decent concept for Pop Century if they didn't mind putting it in one of their "cheaper" hotels.

Please, please no. If you're going to do that, modify the All Stars instead. Pop is a wonderfully designed resort that doesn't need to change anytime soon. Leave it be.

 

[nickys]

Please, please no. If you're going to do that, modify the All Stars instead. Pop is a wonderfully designed resort that doesn't need to change anytime soon. Leave it be.

All Stars Movies would be the obvious choice to re theme part of it to Marvel.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Disney ain't going to put one of their most valuable franchises on some value motel.

 

[Goofy213]

They could always convert the Richie Rich resort (Riviera) to a Marvel Resort.

 

[MisterPenguin]

They could always convert the Richie Rich resort (Riviera) to a Marvel Resort.

Check to see if any "anonymous company" has put in an order for thirty tons of fiberglass!!

 

[flyerjab]

Shangi-Chi and Dr. Strange could easily make a good core for a new land.

I’ve always said (old posts) that they could expand Asia in DAK, add Kamar-Taj, creating a new sub-land. They could add an indoor coaster featuring Wong or the Ancient One, taking you on a journey through the multi-verse. Of course screens would be needed throughout (heaven forbid (jk)) but it would be an interesting way to add something Marvel to DAK. Maybe they could have a Dr. Strange show similar to the one in DL (if allowed). I know he made an appearance in DHS before so who knows? This is obviously without using the Marvel IP that would seem the more obvious choice - Wakanda.

 

[No Name]

I’ve always said (old posts) that they could expand Asia in DAK, add Kamar-Taj, creating a new sub-land. They could add an indoor coaster featuring Wong or the Ancient One, taking you on a journey through the multi-verse. Of course screens would be needed throughout (heaven forbid (jk)) but it would be an interesting way to add something Marvel to DAK. Maybe they could have a Dr. Strange show similar to the one in DL (if allowed). I know he made an appearance in DHS before so who knows? This is obviously without using the Marvel IP that would seem the more obvious choice - Wakanda.

I just don’t see where animals would fit into that idea without it feeling shoehorned.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

I just don’t see where animals would fit into that idea without it feeling shoehorned.

I don’t see any animals in Kali River Rapids either. If it can fit into the park geographically, I don’t really see the problem.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

plus I’m sure Disney would prefer to spread all their marvel content among Epcot, HS, & AK granted that they can’t build an avengers campus persay. On the other hand they could build an “Avengers campus” with the characters they can use, call it something else and tag on “east campus”

 

[Sir_Cliff]

Disney ain't going to put one of their most valuable franchises on some value motel.

The Hotel New York Marvel refurb is a good model of how to do a Marvel hotel right. I'm not really interested in Marvel and wasn't thrilled when it was announced, but I would consider it if it was at a reasonable (for DLP) price. Either way, I will definitely go there for a few cocktails next time I'm at the resort!

An All Stars-style budget resort would be popular, but a bit of a waste from Disney's perspective.

 

[No Name]

I don’t see any animals in Kali River Rapids either. If it can fit into the park geographically, I don’t really see the problem.

Well Kali River Rapids is specifically about deforestation which destroys the animals’ homes and furthers the park’s conservation message. It doesn’t just fit geographically.

 

[JustInTime]

I don’t see any animals in Kali River Rapids either. If it can fit into the park geographically, I don’t really see the problem.

Have you ever been to animal kingdom? Lol

 

[MagicHappens1971]

Have you ever been to animal kingdom? Lol

Yes, at least 30 times

 

[MagicHappens1971]

Well Kali River Rapids is specifically about deforestation which destroys the animals’ homes and furthers the park’s conservation message. It doesn’t just fit geographically.

I honestly did not know that

 

[ToTBellHop]

They would convert the entire Contemporary (again...) before converting a hotel that charges a measly $200/night. No Iron Man for the poors.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

If Disney can legally build a Starcruiser like hotel, but Marvel themed and feature characters like the classic Avengers, it would sell like hotcakes

 

[No Name]

It’s crazy how when a lot of these ideas were being developed, Star Wars was their golden goose. Within about 2 years, that all changed completely. Now they’ve taken a step back on Star Wars, and Iron Man dropping a deuce would do bonkers in theaters. If the interactive hotel were announced today instead of 2017, I have no doubt it would be Marvel-themed instead.

With that being said, regarding the play pavilion, things change quickly and I find it hard to believe the company is thrilled about their 2017 plans, especially given how reluctant they are to reopen their existing meet and greets.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

It’s crazy how when a lot of these ideas were being developed, Star Wars was their golden goose. Within about 2 years, that all changed completely. Now they’ve taken a step back on Star Wars, and Iron Man dropping a deuce would do bonkers in theaters. If the interactive hotel were announced today instead of 2017, I have no doubt it would be Marvel-themed instead.

With that being said, regarding the play pavilion, things change quickly and I find it hard to believe the company is thrilled about their 2017 plans, especially given how reluctant they are to reopen their existing meet and greets.

This is the exact importance of the phrase "Quality Will Out". A poor IP-based experience can't withstand damage to the brand's image. A great IP-based experience can.

Rise of the Resistance defies the general distaste for the sequel trilogy on which it's based because the ride itself is so impressive. The property has already worn out its welcome, meanwhile the ride is an instant classic.

This is part of why the trend where big-ticket IP get underwhelming representation in the parks is so worrying. Avengers Campus hardly lives up to the value of the Marvel franchise. Frozen Ever After is an underwhelming, misplaced D-Ticket for the highest grossing animated franchise ever. If Disney's going to commit to building for these properties, they should be building them institutions - high-quality experiences that extend the interest in the IP and stand for generations as a representation of their value.

Instead they bunt, clearly fearful that the popularity won't outlive the facility. But if you build something amazing it will serve to sustain the popularity of the property.

I'd argue the Indiana Jones Ride at Disneyland has done more good for the relevance and popularity of that franchise than its last movie did, and likely more than the next one will.