EPCOT Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind attraction confirmed for Epcot

[No Name]

I would imagine Zach has very little if any creative control over this specific attraction.

Yeah that’s true, it’s mostly the guy who was responsible for the Tron coaster in Shanghai iirc which I’m just realizing explains a lot.

 

[Marlins1]

Thanks. I've been looking everyday at wait times on the App. We know the parks very well and have no issue getting there early, with a bit of planning and 14 days of park reservations we're fairly confident of getting everything we want to done.

IMO you should buy the Genie for some of your vacation days. You are spending a lot either way and for $15 a day you can access far more attractions. I had to get used to it on a recent trip and I have complaints about it like everyone else does but at the end of the day it is a new system that gives those who use it an advantage. Cheers and have a great vacation!

 

[Marc Davis Fan]

I can't imagine the queue taking up (almost) the entire original UoE show building and not creating a multi-part experience for the preshow. Undoubtedly, this thing is going to have ridiculous wait times once it's open but even so, all that room inside plus the area around the starblaster (assuming that space will be used for the extended queue) would feel like wasted space if it was all just a standard queue. People keep throwing around the argument that a once 45 minute attraction is being replaced with what will probably be a 3 minute long rollercoaster and, while probably true, my personal theory is that time will be made up for with the preshow(s). That's not to say that the entire experience will match that of Universe of Energy, but I think it'll at least approach the 20 minute mark similar to rise, all things considered. That's probably extremely wishful thinking, but I have high hopes.

I hope there's something to this.

Do any of our insiders have inside insight on this?

 

[ToTBellHop]

I hope there's something to this.

Do any of our insiders have inside insight on this?

Yes, it is an extended experience. It will share some similarities with FoP, MFSR, and RotR. We shall see how it compares execution-wise.

 

[Incomudro]

Why would you think that?

I have no idea, but I don't see any reason Disney would need to build that prop out of heavy materials. It's not like it actually needs to have an engine, any electronic components, etc. -- it seems unlikely that it would weigh anywhere near as much as an actual plane.

Because real aircraft are made as light as possible so that they can fly.
This isn't a real aircraft, and it has to be built like a tank not only to endure the weather outside - but also to keep itself together.

 

[HauntedPirate]

Because real aircraft are made as light as possible so that they can fly.
This isn't a real aircraft, and it has to be built like a tank not only to endure the weather outside - but also to keep itself together.

Just stop.

 

[Incomudro]

Just stop.

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

 

[HauntedPirate]

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

Then you’re in an immense amount of pain. You’ve been shown up multiple times by structural engineers who know what they are talking about. So you can keep regurgitating the same wrong lines if you’d like, you still will not be correct.

 

[donsullivan]

Why would you think that?

I have no idea, but I don't see any reason Disney would need to build that prop out of heavy materials. It's not like it actually needs to have an engine, any electronic components, etc. -- it seems unlikely that it would weigh anywhere near as much as an actual plane.

Their building code requires all structures to withstand minimum wind loads in the event a hurricane or tornado should hit the property. This requires that many things be much beefier than you might expect to meet those requirements.

 

[UNCgolf]

Their building code requires all structures to withstand minimum wind loads in the event a hurricane or tornado should hit the property. This requires that many things be much beefier than you might expect to meet those requirements.

I'm aware of that, but it's still unlikely it would need to weigh what an actual airplane weighs, much less actually weigh more (which was the original stated point). Even light fighter jets weigh around 10,000 pounds without any fuel, armaments, etc. -- if the cockpit of this spaceship was 2,000 pounds, and each of the fins was 1,000 (I can't envision them weighing that much, but for argument's sake), that still just puts it on par with the lightest fighter jets. It's hard to imagine it weighing more than that.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Because real aircraft are made as light as possible so that they can fly.
This isn't a real aircraft, and it has to be built like a tank not only to endure the weather outside - but also to keep itself together.

This is not built like a tank. It is a prop.

Their building code requires all structures to withstand minimum wind loads in the event a hurricane or tornado should hit the property. This requires that many things be much beefier than you might expect to meet those requirements.

What is the difference between the ultimate wind load prescribed by the EPCOT Building Code and adjacent unincorporated Orange County?

 

[Cesar R M]

Why are windmills generally tall and propeller shaped?

Also, this is just fun:

Good thing these ships almost never fight inside atmospheres

I'm aware of that, but it's still unlikely it would need to weigh what an actual airplane weighs, much less actually weigh more (which was the original stated point). Even light fighter jets weigh around 10,000 pounds without any fuel, armaments, etc. -- if the cockpit of this spaceship was 2,000 pounds, and each of the fins was 1,000 (I can't envision them weighing that much, but for argument's sake), that still just puts it on par with the lightest fighter jets. It's hard to imagine it weighing more than that.

Being serious, why the hell people are bickering about the WEIGHT of a made up statue of a non existent fantasy starship?

In the other hand, I'm wondering why they didn't use its own "legs" as a base instead of that gigantic metal frame on the bottom.

 

[Mr Ferret 75]

In the other hand, I'm wondering why they didn't use its own "legs" as a base instead of that gigantic metal frame on the bottom.

 

[UNCgolf]

Being serious, why the hell people are bickering about the WEIGHT of a made up statue of a non existent fantasy starship?

In the other hand, I'm wondering why they didn't use its own "legs" as a base instead of that gigantic metal frame on the bottom.

This is why, actually. Someone was arguing that they had to build the huge base to hold it up because it's heavier than airplanes.

 

[Master Yoda]

This is not built like a tank. It is a prop.


What is the difference between the ultimate wind load prescribed by the EPCOT Building Code and adjacent unincorporated Orange County?

No idea what the EPCOT code would be (or if it is even being used anymore), but the current FBC has that area at a 3 second gust speed between 129-149 mph depending on if they are classifying it as a type 1, 2, 3 or 4 structure.

https://www.orangecountyfl.net/Portals/0/Library/Permitting-Licensing/docs/WindSpeedMaps%20CERT.pdf

 

[Cesar R M]

Yup, but I always imagined they could reinforce these to have very strong metal frames inside.
4 legs with reinforced metal.. but yeaaah. I can imagine a cat 5 hitting straight....

 

[rtmachine]

Well they must not of seen this....seems like a perfect solution

 

[lazyboy97o]

No idea what the EPCOT code would be (or if it is even being used anymore), but the current FBC has that area at a 3 second gust speed between 129-149 mph depending on if they are classifying it as a type 1, 2, 3 or 4 structure.

https://www.orangecountyfl.net/Portals/0/Library/Permitting-Licensing/docs/WindSpeedMaps%20CERT.pdf

I know you know, but you also don’t think a more elegant stand defies the laws of physics. EPCOT Building Code 904.2(a) prescribes those exact same speeds, so our answer is 0 mph. There is nothing about the Disney codes that requires more.

Yup, but I always imagined they could reinforce these to have very strong metal frames inside.
4 legs with reinforced metal.. but yeaaah. I can imagine a cat 5 hitting straight....

Despite popular myth, Walt Disney World is not designed to withstand a direct hit from a Category 5 hurricane. Walt Disney World would possibly do better than some surrounding areas due to the size of the facilities and therefore being considered a higher risk category, but not because of any big extra requirements. Walt Disney World and Universal Orlando Resort would probably fair about the same.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I know you know, but you also don’t think a more elegant stand defies the laws of physics. EPCOT Building Code 904.2(a) prescribes those exact same speeds, so our answer is 0 mph. There is nothing about the Disney codes that requires more.


Despite popular myth, Walt Disney World is not designed to withstand a direct hit from a Category 5 hurricane. Walt Disney World would possibly do better than some surrounding areas due to the size of the facilities and therefore being considered a higher risk category, but not because of any big extra requirements. Walt Disney World and Universal Orlando Resort would probably fair about the same.

Would the column alone even have to withstand category 5 hurricane winds if it was required?

They could have easily designed attach points for a couple removable poles from the wings to the ground in the rare hurricane event?

I have argued the column size is probably due to the wind myself but the column really just needs to be built for normal weather conditions, hurricanes have enough advance warning that it could easily be modified with tie downs and temporary supports to survive the worst.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

Because real aircraft are made as light as possible so that they can fly.
This isn't a real aircraft, and it has to be built like a tank not only to endure the weather outside - but also to keep itself together.

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

Tell us you've never designed anything for a themed environment without telling us you've never designed anything for a themed environment . . .

. . . Your guesswork is WAY off base, and your indignance isn't a good look.