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News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

Patcheslee

Patcheslee

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Something I've been wondering about with the canopy: will it provide enough coverage to avoid downtime for storms? Or will it be another TT situation?
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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Patcheslee said:
Something I've been wondering about with the canopy: will it provide enough coverage to avoid downtime for storms? Or will it be another TT situation?
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I'm pretty sure the ride stays under the canopy the entire time, so you'd be protected from rain, but I have no idea if it would protect from lightning strikes. I'm saying no but that's just a guess.
 
G00fyDad

G00fyDad

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UNCgolf said:
I'm pretty sure the ride stays under the canopy the entire time, so you'd be protected from rain, but I have no idea if it would protect from lightning strikes. I'm saying no but that's just a guess.
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Lightning can also travel from the ground upward as well as from the sky to the ground. I don't think the canopy is necessarily going to protect you from lightning.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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nickys said:
Can you explain this please? Hong Kong opened back in 2005. Did you mean Ratatouille at DLP? That was an exclusive deal in 2014 (opening) I believe.
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Exclusivity was part of the 2009 announcement that Hong Kong Disneyland would be adding three new lands. Grizzly Gulch and Mystic Point were globally exclusive and Toy Story Playland exclusive in Asia since it was also being added to Walt Disney Studios Park.
 
nickys

nickys

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lazyboy97o said:
Exclusivity was part of the 2009 announcement that Hong Kong Disneyland would be adding three new lands. Grizzly Gulch and Mystic Point were globally exclusive and Toy Story Playland exclusive in Asia since it was also being added to Walt Disney Studios Park.
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OK. So here’s the sequence of the question:

- someone suggested Tron had an exclusivity agreement.
- You then said that Tron did not, and that exclusivity only started with HK.
- I took that to be some kind of explanation.
- But Tron was well after HK, and exclusivity was used again before Tron opened. So it wasn’t an explanation then, just a fact.

So the start of exclusivity has nothing to do with why Tron did not have one. I find it strange it didn’t if there was no co-funding involved. I mean, I believe you, just find it strange why there would not have been one used, since by then exclusivity agreements were in use.
 
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doctornick

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nickys said:
OK. So here’s the sequence of the question:

- someone suggested Tron had an exclusivity agreement.
- You then said that Tron did not, and that exclusivity only started with HK.
- I took that to be some kind of explanation.
- But Tron was well after HK, and exclusivity was used again before Tron opened. So it wasn’t an explanation then, just a fact.

So the start of exclusivity has nothing to do with why Tron did not have one. I find it strange it didn’t if there was no co-funding involved. I mean, I believe you, just find it strange why there would not have been one used, since by then exclusivity agreements were in use.
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Maybe there was indeed some degree of exclusivity for a time period though. It seems like the original target for Tron opening was Oct 1, 2021 (or maybe a little earlier). It opened in Shanghai in June 2016 so that would fit nicely with a 5 year exclusivity clause.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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nickys said:
OK. So here’s the sequence of the question:

- someone suggested Tron had an exclusivity agreement.
- You then said that Tron did not, and that exclusivity only started with HK.
- I took that to be some kind of explanation.
- But Tron was well after HK, and exclusivity was used again before Tron opened. So it wasn’t an explanation then, just a fact.

So the start of exclusivity has nothing to do with why Tron did not have one. I find it strange it didn’t if there was no co-funding involved. I mean, I believe you, just find it strange why there would not have been one used, since by then exclusivity agreements were in use.
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While it costs the park more, exclusivity is very much about making amends.

From the very beginning, there was concern in Hong Kong that they were a consolation prize. Everyone knew that Disney’s real goal with the Disneyland Asia project was a park in Shanghai. The agreement for the initial buildout of the Hong Kong Disneyland Resort was that Hong Kong would provide the site and access while Disney would build the park and resorts with the cost additions then shared along ownership percentages. The park that opened was much, much smaller than the one that Disney had announced that even included Frontierland, ToonTown and entirely new attractions beyond a garden and stage show. The three new lands were about trying to make Hong Kong happy and keep that situation from hurting the negotiations on the Mainland. Disney agreed to 100% finance the lands themselves and that they would be exclusive to Hong Kong Disneyland for five years after their respective opening.

In Japan, the Oriental Land Company tired of Disney demanding they spend more and more to maintain “Disney quality” while cheating out elsewhere. They felt used, like they were being coerced into funding research and development for everyone else.

There was no real reason for Shanghai Disneyland to lock down anything as an exclusive. Disney was much more committed to the costs of the project (even paying part of the extra $800 million to get it back on track) and has a lot more to lose if they anger their business partners.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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doctornick said:
Maybe there was indeed some degree of exclusivity for a time period though. It seems like the original target for Tron opening was Oct 1, 2021 (or maybe a little earlier). It opened in Shanghai in June 2016 so that would fit nicely with a 5 year exclusivity clause.
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TRON and Ratatouille were both approved to add something as quickly as possible. About four years to design and built TRON wasn’t a deliberately stalled timeline and pretty decent, especially for Disney.
 
nickys

nickys

Premium Member
lazyboy97o said:
TRON and Ratatouille were both approved to add something as quickly as possible. About four years to design and built TRON wasn’t a deliberately stalled timeline and pretty decent, especially for Disney.
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Didn’t @ToTBellHop say recently that Disney have decided to delay the opening of Tron to 1st October 2022? If they stick to that, then that is a deliberately stalled timeline if ever there was one. ☹️
 
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TransportationGuy

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nickys said:
Didn’t @ToTBellHop say recently that Disney have decided to delay the opening of Tron to 1st October 2022? If they stick to that, then that is a deliberately stalled timeline if ever there was one. ☹️
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It’s important to remember that Disney needs to continue having new things open throughout the entire anniversary. That said, there are only so many things that are far enough done to open as a part of the celebration
 

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