Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Kevin_W]

Florida's case rate:

vs. Ohio's:

We started the delta surge about a month after Florida and peaked about a month later. But we haven't seen the same kind of declines, sadly. I wonder if that's due to weather? Our lower vaccination rate? The fact that the peak was <1/3 as high per capita? Who knows, but it's frustrating. We saw how quickly ebbed in India and hoped that this would be bad, but at least quick. Now it sure looks like it will linger throughout the holidays.

 

[dreday3]

Are you guys getting boosters if you aren't in one of the recommended categories?

We are both 48, healthy (as far we know! fingers crossed) and our jobs aren't considered high risk.
My second dose was in Feb, he was in April. I have Moderna, he has Pfizer.

What to do?

 

[Kevin_W]

Are you guys getting boosters if you aren't in one of the recommended categories?

We are both 48, healthy (as far we know! fingers crossed) and our jobs aren't considered high risk.
My second dose was in Feb, he was in April. I have Moderna, he has Pfizer.

What to do?

That was from today - and I saw data a few weeks ago that said at least 40+ was very likely to be recommended a booster, based on a lot of data from Israel.

My wife and I are your age. she was boostered a couple weeks ago (health-care worker). I actually have an appointment later this week (I technically quality with a BMI >25. I lift weights, so that # is easy to achieve.) I did enough reading of the data on boosters and it seems a good idea, particularly with holidays coming up with un-vaccinated family.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

Are you guys getting boosters if you aren't in one of the recommended categories?

We are both 48, healthy (as far we know! fingers crossed) and our jobs aren't considered high risk.
My second dose was in Feb, he was in April. I have Moderna, he has Pfizer.

What to do?

There's no downside that I'm aware of, so no hesitation in getting one.

Effectiveness seems to be waning over time a bit, so is just makes sense. Extra protection for oneself and helps reduce community transmission.

I'd also note that countries who delayed second doses beyond two weeks saw positive results. Getting a booster means you're more closely replicating what turned out to be beneficial.

 

[DCBaker]

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That was from today - and I saw data a few weeks ago that said at least 40+ was very likely to be recommended a booster, based on a lot of data from Israel.

My wife and I are your age. she was boostered a couple weeks ago (health-care worker). I actually have an appointment later this week (I technically quality with a BMI >25. I lift weights, so that # is easy to achieve.) I did enough reading of the data on boosters and it seems a good idea, particularly with holidays coming up with un-vaccinated family.

Pfizer has officially submitted that request -

 

[ToTBellHop]

Are you guys getting boosters if you aren't in one of the recommended categories?

We are both 48, healthy (as far we know! fingers crossed) and our jobs aren't considered high risk.
My second dose was in Feb, he was in April. I have Moderna, he has Pfizer.

What to do?

Can’t speak for me—high risk job.

 

[Andrew C]

Pfizer has officially submitted that request -

So an actual booster that is distinct. Not just a third shot.

 

[Andrew C]

Are you guys getting boosters if you aren't in one of the recommended categories?

We are both 48, healthy (as far we know! fingers crossed) and our jobs aren't considered high risk.
My second dose was in Feb, he was in April. I have Moderna, he has Pfizer.

What to do?

This is not recommended right now according to the CDC and FDA from what I understand.

 

[danlb_2000]

So an actual booster that is distinct. Not just a third shot.

It's all the same product, the difference is why you are given it. A third shot is when it is given because you did not have a good immune response from the first two, a booster is when it is given to boost waning immunity.

 

[Andrew C]

It's all the same product, the difference is why you are given it. A third shot is when it is given because you did not have a good immune response from the first two, a booster is when it is given to boost waning immunity.

Got it. When I read "booster dose" it made me think there is a specific/different dose type for a booster.

 

[Disstevefan1]

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vs. Ohio's: View attachment 599609

We started the delta surge about a month after Florida and peaked about a month later. But we haven't seen the same kind of declines, sadly. I wonder if that's due to weather? Our lower vaccination rate? The fact that the peak was <1/3 as high per capita? Who knows, but it's frustrating. We saw how quickly ebbed in India and hoped that this would be bad, but at least quick. Now it sure looks like it will linger throughout the holidays.

To me, it’s the COVID deaths and hospitalizations that is the only important measure. What is that for Ohio?

 

[danlb_2000]

Got it. When I read "booster dose" it made me think there is a specific/different dose type for a booster.

Moderna gives a half dose as an additional dose, Pfizer and J&J do the same dose as the original.

 

[mmascari]

So an actual booster that is distinct. Not just a third shot.

Unless I missed something in that release, it's a request to expand who is recommended for the current additional dose. It's no different.

So, a "three dose vaccine schedule" and "two dose vaccine schedule then a booster that's the same" is really just a marketing distinction.

The extra dose for immunocompromised people looks like an actual difference, to overcome a poor response to the vaccine. Would end up being four doses for them then.

The booster vs it just being a longer dose schedule over more time (just like other vaccines) appears to be more marketing focused. Especially for J&J. Being the "One dose vaccine" has lots of marketing potential and use cases. Having them all be "doses spread out over months" is much less exciting, from a marketing perspective.

Team J&J though, still one less than the rest of you! (Even if the second wasn't a J&J.)

 

[mmascari]

Moderna gives a half dose as an additional dose, Pfizer and J&J do the same dose as the original.

I don't think the Moderna half dose was approved yet, was it?

That's what they submitted though.

 

[ABQ]

To me, it’s the COVID deaths and hospitalizations that is the only important measure. What is that for Ohio?

This only goes through 10/21

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

This is not recommended right now according to the CDC and FDA from what I understand.

I had the same thought when I read the article, who’s leading the push for the third shot? The CDC or the companies making it?

I’m approved for the third shot (thanks to my job) but haven’t seen any data yet that says I need it. I’ve done what was recommended since the beginning, or at least tried to with the information changing so quickly, but I still haven’t seen anything that says a healthy 47 year old needs a booster.

 

[Disney Analyst]

There's no downside that I'm aware of, so no hesitation in getting one.

Effectiveness seems to be waning over time a bit, so is just makes sense. Extra protection for oneself and helps reduce community transmission.

I'd also note that countries who delayed second doses beyond two weeks saw positive results. Getting a booster means you're more closely replicating what turned out to be beneficial.

Yep. As Canada has show, the situation we faced with supply resulted in delayed second doses, which was actually beneficial and helped us not have as big a Delta wave as many other countries faced, but we still did face a wave.

Adding the 3rd dose this January as BC is planning for all is going to really step up protection for most.

 

[SteveAZee]

Are you guys getting boosters if you aren't in one of the recommended categories?

We are both 48, healthy (as far we know! fingers crossed) and our jobs aren't considered high risk.
My second dose was in Feb, he was in April. I have Moderna, he has Pfizer.

What to do?

Eat a bunch of Mickey Bars until your BMI gets you into the 'overweight' category?

 

[JoeCamel]

Eat a bunch of Mickey Bars until your BMI gets you into the 'overweight' category?

Buy a pack of cigarettes'?

 

[SteveAZee]

Buy a pack of cigarettes'?

Candy cigarettes.