JoeCamel
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Donuts?
AlwaysIt’s what many businesses are doing or have done as well. I’m not against these types of mandates at a local level. But I feel maybe the implementation could have been handled better.
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Maybe but the lowest number of Covid-19 deaths in NYC are in the 0 to 18 range and i don't see any of them on the force.
October82
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What is the relevance of this observation?
October82
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Police and firefighters both interact with vulnerable parts of the population on a more consistent basis than other groups. They may not be at high risks for severe health outcomes, but they are at high risk for transmitting the virus to people who are likely to have a severe health outcome.
Vaccines are a public health tool - they protect others in addition to yourself. Mandates are about public health, not personal.
If you follow it back you will understand. It started with death rates in NYPD from covid-19.
October82
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Can you explain what relevance you think the fact that NYPD doesn't employ children has to the conversation?
And at the same time in protest of the mandate, 2,300 NYFD staff decided to call sick one day.
The post I was responding to refered to the officers being younger than many in the general population who died of Covid-19. I was pointing out while that is true, the demographic with the fewest deaths is not represented in NYPD either. I will add the quote to my response for clarity.
Edit: it is already quoted.
BuddyThomas
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I might be misinterpreting you last few posts, but it sounds like you’re trying to trivialize the pandemic and that’s not cool. 746,000 Americans and counting have died of this and if you don’t think that’s a big deal, I don’t know what to tell you. Also, your statement about having natural immunity after having COVID is flawed. Every single study that has been done says that it is possible to be reinfected after having had COVID.
BuddyThomas
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Yes God forbid that people who work in the fields of healthcare and public safety should have to receive a vaccine.
DisneyFan32
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Yup, anti-vax needs to get vaccinated to get back to normal next year before it's too late.
COVID-19: Disease-induced (natural) immunity, vaccination or hybrid immunity?
If you’ve had COVID-19 before, does your natural immunity work better than a vaccine?www.nebraskamed.com
Yeah no, get vaccinated and stop pushing anti-vax crap still. (General statment here)
DisneyFan32
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TehPuddingMan
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Have there been any rumors of the still closed restaurants (Artist Point, Flying Fish) opening anytime soon?
Not all unions are against a vaccine mandate. Many were totally on board, including police and fire fighter unions.
Some unions are OK with the mandates, but didn't like that they were bypassed in negotiations. Some, just to retain power, others, with a real desire to protect some of their workers who couldn't get vaccinated and to hash out penalties and grounds for being fired.
The union leadership that are totally against a mandate need to check in with their constituents whom they're supposed to be representing. The majority got vaccinated and may not be happy with their union leadership being anti-science and anti-vax.
Heppenheimer
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Back to matters purely COVID...
For those wondering about the protection of prior infection versus vaccination, here's the answer. And one of many reasons why prior infection won't be considered a substitute for full vaccination:
www.cdc.gov
In short, vaccination provides 5x the protection of prior infection. We've kind of suspected this would be the case for awhile, because the antibody response to prior infection is far more variable than from vaccination. Here's the data that shows the results.
Like all things, though, we'll learn more as time goes on. It is possible that the protection from vaccination eventually fades below prior infection (a possibility mentioned by the study's authors), but at least as long as we've had the vaccines, they're offering more protection for now.
For those wondering about the protection of prior infection versus vaccination, here's the answer. And one of many reasons why prior infection won't be considered a substitute for full vaccination:
Laboratory-Confirmed COVID-19 Among Adults Hospitalized ...
This report describes mRNA COVID-19 vaccine recipients as having greater immunity from COVID-19 infection than previously infected, unvaccinated persons.
www.cdc.gov
In short, vaccination provides 5x the protection of prior infection. We've kind of suspected this would be the case for awhile, because the antibody response to prior infection is far more variable than from vaccination. Here's the data that shows the results.
Like all things, though, we'll learn more as time goes on. It is possible that the protection from vaccination eventually fades below prior infection (a possibility mentioned by the study's authors), but at least as long as we've had the vaccines, they're offering more protection for now.
ToTBellHop
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My union said they supported vaccination (and kept telling us we should get the shot) but not the mandate. They suggested it was an attempt from the Board to take away our voice.
Then they surveyed us all and suddenly supported the mandate as long as it also applied to students. Who would have expected a union of college professors to support science???
Disstevefan1
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At the beginning of the pandemic, our essential workers were held up as the heros that they truly are. Along comes the vaccine mandates and our heros are suddenly….. expendable…
lazyboy97o
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Putting others at unnecessary risk is not heroic.
Not sure about AP but I have heard Flying Fish will be opening before the Christmas rush starts. It is fully staffed and has been used recently for multiple private parties including one with all the Disney bigwigs the night before the 50th.
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