You know it is crowded when...

[sweetpee_1993]

Not reading all 6 pages...'specially the love that seems to be in these recent posts....but to answer the question most simply:

You know it is crowded when.... I'm not there.

 

[openendedsky]

We "have money" because we made EXCELLENT choices in college majors, followed by EXCELLENT choices in employment, followed by EXCELLENT choices in post-graduate education and training, followed by EXCELLENT choices in where, how and why to receive certification and licensure. However, you have not surprisingly focused on us "having money" and conveniently overlooked the posts where I clearly state that we SAVE all year long for our annual pilgramage to WDW.
The only "worry" that I have is whether or not our luggage shows up on time at the right location. You also conveniently overlooked that I wrote, "I do not care if people push, haul and carry. That's up to them."
And now I must hie myself off to work so that we can continue to "have money" and so that I can continue to contribute to our Disney "pot". While I am tending to the needs of cancer patients what will YOU be doing? Heading off to WalMart to grab some of that great Chinese crapola and using your Food Stamps for their garbage that passes itself off as groceries? Making sure that your DVR is set to record all of your favorite reality shows? Emailing WDW demanding that they lower their prices so that it's "fair"? Waving your Medicaid card at some doctor as if it was a diamond encrusted AMEX card? Or just waiting and wondering why Obama hasn't sent you all the "free goodies" that he has promised in return for votes?
The New America. Never have so many done so little but slurped up so much from those who have actually achieved in their lives. The New America, bah humbug.

And billions of Chinese still don't give a hoot what is posted here.

Actually, I'm in college right now so stop being an overgeneralizing a**. Even if I weren't, it's not your place to judge people on their lifestyle decisions or situations because it's not even interfering with your own life.

And not everybody can be such an *EXCELLENT* human being who has never made a mistake in their life.

 

[scoobygirl39541]

What part do you find "strict"? That we made the decision that 5 was the minimum age to go to WDW? That we didn't push strollers or haul backpacks? That we didn't use leashes or harnesses? That our kids knew that they needed to stay with us and not wander off? That we had sitdown family dinners together? Oh wait I bet I know: that we taught our kids that there were consequences to actions that we the parents had deemed unacceptable.

The part when your child had to tell you "You don't know how hard it is to be raised in the 90s by parents who think that it's the 50s".

Also, I have money because I made an "excellent choice" with chemical engineering, but I don't go flaunting it all over a Disney message board. It's called class and compassion.

 

[BoarderPhreak]

What do you know - I have my first "ignore" list inductee.

 

[Phineas]

You know it's crowded when you willingly, and quickly make your way to The Hall of Presidents to beat the crowds. You exhale a sigh of relief, you finally have room to breathe, and then you remember-You're in The Hall of Presidents. A real roller coaster of emotions.

 

[copcarguyp71]

...when you don't even notice B.O. anymore because you have been smelling it all day long

 

[EmmabaRose]

We "have money" because we made EXCELLENT choices in college majors, followed by EXCELLENT choices in employment, followed by EXCELLENT choices in post-graduate education and training, followed by EXCELLENT choices in where, how and why to receive certification and licensure. However, you have not surprisingly focused on us "having money" and conveniently overlooked the posts where I clearly state that we SAVE all year long for our annual pilgramage to WDW.
The only "worry" that I have is whether or not our luggage shows up on time at the right location. You also conveniently overlooked that I wrote, "I do not care if people push, haul and carry. That's up to them."
And now I must hie myself off to work so that we can continue to "have money" and so that I can continue to contribute to our Disney "pot". While I am tending to the needs of cancer patients what will YOU be doing? Heading off to WalMart to grab some of that great Chinese crapola and using your Food Stamps for their garbage that passes itself off as groceries? Making sure that your DVR is set to record all of your favorite reality shows? Emailing WDW demanding that they lower their prices so that it's "fair"? Waving your Medicaid card at some doctor as if it was a diamond encrusted AMEX card? Or just waiting and wondering why Obama hasn't sent you all the "free goodies" that he has promised in return for votes?
The New America. Never have so many done so little but slurped up so much from those who have actually achieved in their lives. The New America, bah humbug.

And billions of Chinese still don't give a hoot what is posted here.

As a British person, the NHS is the best thing to ever happen to this country. It's not a free goodie, as you so eloquently put it, it is funded by our taxes. Its about a human right to healthcare. When someone in your country dies because they can't afford the life saving treatment, then yes, there is something majorly wrong. But, forgive me, people not having to pay doctors fees might turn your *EXCELLENT* choices on their ear.

Also, a lot of people will resent the way you treat your method of parent like it is the divine way. It sounds like your kids have turned out wonderfully. Good for you. But I speak from a daughters point of view when I ask this: what is so wrong with being a friend too? It has more effect when they need discipline, because you absolutely know they have crossed the line. I can predict my views on parenting won't be taken that seriously, being a childless 21 year old. But I would like to think I had a good amount of discipline, with a good balance of friendship, and I haven't turned out to badly. I have around one year left of my music degree, a gift of a strong singing voice, and I'm engaged to be married next year. I don't drink a lot by choice, never smoked or touched a drug. Clearly all that friendship parenting has been so detrimental.

No parents method is perfect. Stop acting like yours is.

There's a whole ream of political incorrectness that I won't even begin to deal with because it's not that kind of board. All I will say is, snobbery doesn't suit you, dear.

 

[Bloopers]

We "have money" because we made EXCELLENT choices in college majors, followed by EXCELLENT choices in employment, followed by EXCELLENT choices in post-graduate education and training, followed by EXCELLENT choices in where, how and why to receive certification and licensure. However, you have not surprisingly focused on us "having money" and conveniently overlooked the posts where I clearly state that we SAVE all year long for our annual pilgramage to WDW.
The only "worry" that I have is whether or not our luggage shows up on time at the right location. You also conveniently overlooked that I wrote, "I do not care if people push, haul and carry. That's up to them."
And now I must hie myself off to work so that we can continue to "have money" and so that I can continue to contribute to our Disney "pot". While I am tending to the needs of cancer patients what will YOU be doing? Heading off to WalMart to grab some of that great Chinese crapola and using your Food Stamps for their garbage that passes itself off as groceries? Making sure that your DVR is set to record all of your favorite reality shows? Emailing WDW demanding that they lower their prices so that it's "fair"? Waving your Medicaid card at some doctor as if it was a diamond encrusted AMEX card? Or just waiting and wondering why Obama hasn't sent you all the "free goodies" that he has promised in return for votes?
The New America. Never have so many done so little but slurped up so much from those who have actually achieved in their lives. The New America, bah humbug.

And billions of Chinese still don't give a hoot what is posted here.

You know, as I read your words, I feel kinda disgusted. I don't care about your argument with what to bring to Disney or how you think your ways of raising your children are the 'right' way, because I don't really care, but where's the empathy and compassion for our fellow people? Being able to go to Disney is a privilege that not everyone has, and to belittle those that are unfortunate by blaming their ways of life truly is sad. Everyone has their own problems and story to tell, some people aren't as fortunate as others, but that doesn't give you the right to judge them. Do you assume that just because one doesn't have an education, and that they need help from the government in order to survive, they're automatically not worthy? There's a lot more to life than just making money and flaunting it. Try to give a little.

 

[EmmabaRose]

You know, as I read your words, I feel kinda disgusted. I don't care about your argument with what to bring to Disney or how you think your ways of raising your children are the 'right' way, because I don't really care, but where's the empathy and compassion for our fellow people? Being able to go to Disney is a privilege that not everyone has, and to belittle those that are unfortunate by blaming their ways of life truly is sad. Everyone has their own problems and story to tell, some people aren't as fortunate as others, but that doesn't give you the right to judge them. Do you assume that just because one doesn't have an education, and that they need help from the government in order to survive, they're automatically not worthy? There's a lot more to life than just making money and flaunting it. Try to give a little.

This. Everything I was trying to say.

It's just a completely blinkered view. Somebody at his local supermarket may work as long as hard as he does, but because they do not make as much money as he does, and haven't "achieved" and are not as worthy as he. I have friends how work in supermarkets and friends who studying egineering and will be designing fighter jets when he graduates. I don't treat them any differently because they are both human beings.mOpen your mind. Nobody is better than anyone else. Not because of their job, their wage, or how they parent their children.

 

[Bloopers]

This. Everything I was trying to say.

It's just a completely blinkered view. Somebody at his local supermarket may work as long as hard as he does, but because they do not make as much money as he does, and haven't "achieved" and are not as worthy as he. I have friends how work in supermarkets and friends who studying egineering and will be designing fighter jets when he graduates. I don't treat them any differently because they are both human beings.mOpen your mind. Nobody is better than anyone else. Not because of their job, their wage, or how they parent their children.

Exactly.

Who's gonna pick up the crap from our trashcans if no one wants to do it? Who's gonna bust their butts waiting on tables at the wee hours in the morning if no one wants to do it? Who's gonna clean the toilets at Disney and make the beds at your hotel if NO ONE wants to do it? And "All Disney All The Time", you love Disney right? Most of the cast members are making a few cents above min. wage. If everyone there were to quit their jobs, do you think you can still experience Disney the way it is today? In fact, do you think Disney will still be standing without its thousands of cast members who work at a low wage?

Someone's gotta do the crappy jobs that makes everyone's life more convenient.

 

[mousehockey37]

... Tinkerbell has to ration pixie dust.
... Tomorrowland Speedway has to shut down due to Buzz Lightyear queue on the track.
... real passports are required for entry into different countries in EPCOT.
... Hitchhiking Ghosts are content to just stay put.
... they turn on the lights on Pirates because too many people are using flash photography.
... Animal Kingdom starts feeding random guests to the animals.

 

[EmmabaRose]

Exactly.

Who's gonna pick up the crap from our trashcans if no one wants to do it? Who's gonna bust their butts waiting on tables at the wee hours in the morning if no one wants to do it? Who's gonna clean the toilets at Disney and make the beds at your hotel if NO ONE wants to do it? And "All Disney All The Time", you love Disney right? Most of the cast members are making a few cents above min. wage. If everyone there were to quit their jobs, do you think you can still experience Disney the way it is today? In fact, do you think Disney will still be standing without its thousands of cast members who work at a low wage?

Someone's gotta do the crappy jobs that makes everyone's life more convenient.

Exactly. My father works in a care home for disabled adults, planning activities that make their lives full and rich. When he started there he cared for them on a personal level. He probably doesnt make half what this guy does. Does that not make him worthy?

When I get married next year, we will be living in the states (fiancé is American)... Really can't wait to live in this "new America" it sounds like a blast!

 

[The Empress Lilly]

-The Yeti now runs a website which mocks tourists' lack of movement in the EE queue.

 

[All Disney All The Time]

First of all, "being raised in the 50s" was a good thing. We are virtually the last generation of Americans who understand personal responsibility rather than "gimme gimme gimme, it's not fair that others have more than me". Second of all, I could care less "how it's done in the UK". Third of all, the wife and I both could retire tomorrow, because of the EXCELLENT financial decisions we have made over the decades of achieving in our professional lives. Fourth of all, I have lots of compassion, I exhibit it in thousands of hours of year working with cancer patients and the physicians who treat them. Sadly this also includes children with cancer. Had to do scans on several of them today. Horrible for them and their families.
To the "college student" above: when you mature and get some life experience you might have something to say that I'll find worth listening to. To "Bloopers": I find that most of the people doing those "crappy" jobs are those who "do the jobs that Americans won't". To Emma: as I said, I could care less "how it is done in the UK". What's the unemployment rate there these days among 20-somethings? How's Ireland's doing financially?

 

[All Disney All The Time]

The part when your child had to tell you "You don't know how hard it is to be raised in the 90s by parents who think that it's the 50s".

Also, I have money because I made an "excellent choice" with chemical engineering, but I don't go flaunting it all over a Disney message board. It's called class and compassion.

Yep, they had it hard. They had chores, they had curfews, they had to do their homework and present us with their grades, projects and report cards, they had to sit down for a family dinner every evening, and they had to "suffer" a week's vacation twice a year, once in the summer and once during their Christmas break. It was just so awful for them.
You have conveniently overlooked that I never mentioned money until Openendedsky brought it up, in the same post where she/he/it called me a foul name. Using * of course.
Chemical engineering eh? So while you are contributing to the pollution of the world, the wife and I are helping cancer patients. Sorry, but you FAIL.

 

[englanddg]

First of all, "being raised in the 50s" was a good thing. We are virtually the last generation of Americans who understand personal responsibility rather than "gimme gimme gimme, it's not fair that others have more than me". Second of all, I could care less "how it's done in the UK". Third of all, the wife and I both could retire tomorrow, because of the EXCELLENT financial decisions we have made over the decades of achieving in our professional lives. Fourth of all, I have lots of compassion, I exhibit it in thousands of hours of year working with cancer patients and the physicians who treat them. Sadly this also includes children with cancer. Had to do scans on several of them today. Horrible for them and their families.
To the "college student" above: when you mature and get some life experience you might have something to say that I'll find worth listening to. To "Bloopers": I find that most of the people doing those "crappy" jobs are those who "do the jobs that Americans won't". To Emma: as I said, I could care less "how it is done in the UK". What's the unemployment rate there these days among 20-somethings? How's Ireland's doing financially?

This is really getting ugly.

I've read the whole thread, and you started with a bang, but then you got overly defensive and preachy.

If you'd like to start a thread about how "hippies suck" and the "new America", please do so, so we can continue the discussion over there.

It's time to move on.

I know it's crowded when there seems to be more strollers than actual guests.

 

[scoobygirl39541]

Yep, they had it hard. They had chores, they had curfews, they had to do their homework and present us with their grades, projects and report cards, they had to sit down for a family dinner every evening, and they had to "suffer" a week's vacation twice a year, once in the summer and once during their Christmas break. It was just so awful for them.
You have conveniently overlooked that I never mentioned money until Openendedsky brought it up, in the same post where she/he/it called me a foul name. Using * of course.
Chemical engineering eh? So while you are contributing to the pollution of the world, the wife and I are helping cancer patients. Sorry, but you FAIL.

wow now THAT personal attack is unacceptable. With that insult you just discredited the whole "friendly" argument we had going. It's not even worth defending myself against you anymore. Bye.

 

[All Disney All The Time]

You know it's crowded when the birds are so full of popcorn that they aren't interested in trying to get yours.

 

[All Disney All The Time]

wow now THAT personal attack is unacceptable. With that insult you just discredited the whole "friendly" argument we had going. It's not even worth defending myself against you anymore. Bye.

Where did you get the impression that I was interested in being "friendly" with you on any level? I believe your first post said something along the lines of you being glad that I wasn't your parent. Gee my sensitive little sugar britches, that set the tone for our future exchanges. You started the insults and then of course you get "offended" when the favor is returned. Tells me your age range and maturity level. Go file an HR complaint hon, I'll wait for the paperwork.

 

[openendedsky]

First of all, "being raised in the 50s" was a good thing. We are virtually the last generation of Americans who understand personal responsibility rather than "gimme gimme gimme, it's not fair that others have more than me". Second of all, I could care less "how it's done in the UK". Third of all, the wife and I both could retire tomorrow, because of the EXCELLENT financial decisions we have made over the decades of achieving in our professional lives. Fourth of all, I have lots of compassion, I exhibit it in thousands of hours of year working with cancer patients and the physicians who treat them. Sadly this also includes children with cancer. Had to do scans on several of them today. Horrible for them and their families.
To the "college student" above: when you mature and get some life experience you might have something to say that I'll find worth listening to. To "Bloopers": I find that most of the people doing those "crappy" jobs are those who "do the jobs that Americans won't". To Emma: as I said, I could care less "how it is done in the UK". What's the unemployment rate there these days among 20-somethings? How's Ireland's doing financially?

I'll discuss maturity with you when you can have a conversation without making classist, ageist, or insulting remarks. As a "mature adult", you should be able to recognize the fallacies in your own arguments and heavily unwarranted bias. And don't use the argument that people who want handouts are just using drugs. It's been proven in Florida that less than two percent of people who test for welfare come up positive.