Yellow Sight Line around MK?

CommandoDisney

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So yesterday there is was an article in the Washington Post travel section that highlights some of WDW backstage tours. the writer went on the keys to the kingdom tour, the backstage safari tour at DAK and the Epcot Sears Aqua Tour. in his review of the Keys to the Kingdom tour, he said that they were taken over to the other side of the tracks and then stepped over an actual yellow sight line painted on the ground, meaning that now they could not be seen by anyone from inside the park. here the cm asked those on the tour what they would REALLY like to know, as if now he can say things he couldnt say in the park. specifically the author mentions how if you asked him inside the park about tinkerbell's zipline, he would say its where she hangs her laundry, but outside this line he can say how the girl playing tinkerbell has to be no more than 95 pounds and wears 70 pounds of harness and lgihts and gets paid an actors' equity wages as well as hazard bonuses. ive heard people talk about the keys to the kingdom tour on this site before, but ive never heard of this sight line or how the CMs can tell you whatever you want outside of it. i thought the whole point of the tour was to be able to learn the secrets of wdw. anyone got any info on this?
 

Badger Brent

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All of the info on Tink's flight was talked about while backstage during our KTTK tour, at her final destination pad. I say pad because it was surrounded with athletic gym padding in case Tink came in too fast. Like I said before, we were where Tink stops and all of this interesting info was told within the yellow sight lines.
 

CommandoDisney

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Badger Brent said:
All of the info on Tink's flight was talked about while backstage during our KTTK tour, at her final destination pad. I say pad because it was surrounded with athletic gym padding in case Tink came in too fast. Like I said before, we were where Tink stops and all of this interesting info was told within the yellow sight lines.

thats what i thought. i figured if they could tell you something on the tour, they could tell you it anywhere. have there ever been any questions they cant or wont answer?
 

rainfully

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CommandoDisney said:
thats what i thought. i figured if they could tell you something on the tour, they could tell you it anywhere. have there ever been any questions they cant or wont answer?

They won't answer certain questions on stage because they don't want to ruin the magic for anyone who might be within earshot who either don't want to, or shouldn't know. (ie children)
 

shoppingnut

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talulah07407 said:
how often does tink fly @ MK??? is it during a parade?

She flys, weather permitting, during the fireworks each night. She lands on a roof in tomorrowland where cm's help catch her, in coming down the wire she comes down without any electrical/mechanical help, they adjust the wire for every flight.
 

brkgnews

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rainfully said:
They won't answer certain questions on stage because they don't want to ruin the magic for anyone who might be within earshot who either don't want to, or shouldn't know. (ie children)
Bingo. We were able to do some discussions of this nature in the little side street off of Main Street USA (across from the closed-off section of Center Street), since it was out of earshot of most guests. If somebody walked into the area, conversation stopped. So using the parade line as the "secrets area" was merely a matter of convenience, since guests would have to go through both a guard and a gate to get up there.
 

CommandoDisney

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brkgnews said:
Bingo. We were able to do some discussions of this nature in the little side street off of Main Street USA (across from the closed-off section of Center Street), since it was out of earshot of most guests. If somebody walked into the area, conversation stopped. So using the parade line as the "secrets area" was merely a matter of convenience, since guests would have to go through both a guard and a gate to get up there.

gotcha. thanks a lot! i had never heard of this line and just wanted to clear it up
 

Badger Brent

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Also from what I gathered out of the tour was the age issue. They had to come up with an age that could handle certain situations backstage or hearing some info from the CM that might hurt the magic for a younger person.
 

NASAMan

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One of the funniest things to watch is a parade coming to conclusion backstage. The yellow line painted on the ground is the equivilent of a force shield from Star Wars. On one side is magic, dance, animation, while the other side, well you can imagine how fast things happen in 95 degree heat! A table nearby hold cups of icewater and a fan and mister helps cool dancers and others. I was amazed and enthused that everybody performs with their best effort, even though quite a distance backstage, until reaching that painted barrier between the magic and the mundane. There are a lot more stories, but then we are not on the backstage tour, are we? :)
 

mkepcotmgmak

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CommandoDisney said:
So yesterday there is was an article in the Washington Post travel section that highlights some of WDW backstage tours. the writer went on the keys to the kingdom tour, the backstage safari tour at DAK and the Epcot Sears Aqua Tour. in his review of the Keys to the Kingdom tour, he said that they were taken over to the other side of the tracks and then stepped over an actual yellow sight line painted on the ground, meaning that now they could not be seen by anyone from inside the park. here the cm asked those on the tour what they would REALLY like to know, as if now he can say things he couldnt say in the park. specifically the author mentions how if you asked him inside the park about tinkerbell's zipline, he would say its where she hangs her laundry, but outside this line he can say how the girl playing tinkerbell has to be no more than 95 pounds and wears 70 pounds of harness and lgihts and gets paid an actors' equity wages as well as hazard bonuses. ive heard people talk about the keys to the kingdom tour on this site before, but ive never heard of this sight line or how the CMs can tell you whatever you want outside of it. i thought the whole point of the tour was to be able to learn the secrets of wdw. anyone got any info on this?

it's an excellent tour to take, and yes, the sightlines really are there! they are for parade performers mostly, but they really are there! :)
 

peter11435

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CommandoDisney said:
so i guess thats not really outside the view of the park then?
My understanding is that line is primarily for parades. Once pass the line they are on-stage in view of guests. While you can see beyond it from the train, that doesn't matter because the trains do not run during the parade.
 

Rob562

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Physical sightlines are another link to live theater in the "on-stage/off-stage" comparisons.

Many theaters mark sightlines in the wings so that the cast knows the extent of the area where the audience can see to either side of the stage. They know that they shouldn't cross that line until they're actually going on-stage. In the theater, the lines are typically marked for the seats on the extreme ends of the front row.

I believe there's other sightlines in backstage areas, not just the parade route. They're typically behind doors that open to allow CM access on-stage. That way CMs can know whether they're out of sight even if the door is suddenly opened.

You can clearly see the lines in this photo from local.live.com:
http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=nr2k3m861cc9&style=o&lvl=2&scene=3928879

Though here it's more of an "area" than a line. The red-painted area on the ground on the off-stage side of the parade doors show the extent of the area that Guests in the park can see when the doors are open. Parade performers need to stay in character and in costume, performing their routines until they exit from this red area. And if they are starting the parade from the Main Street end, they need to be performing by the time they enter the red area. Next time you're watching the parade from near there, note how on the ground on the other side of the doors you can ONLY see red. You can't tell that the pavement becomes plain gray just outside of your view.

That's one thing I love about designing and construction for the theater. You only have to do what the audience sees. In our recent production of My Fair Lady, in the study scene we had these tall walls that stretched up high, and bookshelves on a balcony up above. But only the bottom 4-5' of the bookshelves were painted and the wall coloring didn't go all the way up, because the audience couldn't see it. Step up onto the stage, and suddenly you see crummy unfinished paint jobs jsut out of view, and that the yellow of the study walls suddenly becomes a patchwork of black or red or any number of other colors from past shows.

Another example in the photo from live.com linked above, if you scroll over to the buildings that border both Fronteirland and Adventureland. On the roofs there's a number of little architectural details, like a thatched roof or a little spike tower, kinda plunked here and there. Plain, dull roof all around, and then just this little extra bit sticking up, But from the park, it looks as if it's one fully themed roof.

-Rob
 

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