It's not. Five major resorts lack a waterslide and hot tub, boats and bikes have been removed from all values and moderates and many deluxes, and post covid they have removed the newer offerings like fitness classes, morning yoga, morning races, and painting classes and other recreational offerings.
It *sounds* good in abstract.
No hotels have lost a water slide or hot tub
The company is not only making sequels and marvel movies are adaptions of COMIC BOOKS so technically they never were original
I mean, yeah, that's the simple answer, but not necessarily the best answer, because then you risk possibly not making enough to cover your costs. It has to be strategic with what you're cutting. And in the case of ticket and hotel prices, when you're doing it. That's why my suggestion was on items that are already seeing higher margins because you sell more of them, and your revenue increases without seeing a drastic increase in costs.
You've probably spent more years criticizing Disney management than the poster you're engaging with has been alive.
There are bike rentals at several resorts. https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/recreation/bike-rentals/ No hot tub was removed. Boat rentals, fishing excursions, and stuff at individual resorts like night safaris at AKL and paddle boats at the Swolphin exist too.
One thing I would like to see is the option for out of state people to buy different levels of annual passes ... Something that could promote doing 2-3 or more trips in a year then they get more $ from hotels, meals, etc
Five is an interesting definition of 'several', especially considering how many resorts and DVC properties there actually are.
Googles definition of several:
Oh I wasn't disagreeing with you. I was merely pointing out their lack of investment back into the parks is the reason they are where they are.
I don’t disagree, but it’s not all Disney’s marketing. People have changed from the way they were in the 70’s and 80’s.Not really...
The properties used to have a lot more water sports... more onsite things like tennis... you would do sailiing or fishing.. more activities at fort wilderness.. you might be doing more of the tours.
Sure the resorts have some 'kids activities' of different flavors, the marinas are still there, the beaches are all roped off, sure there is some golf still.. but the entire pacing and way people spend time on property has completely changed. It's a combination of guest habits and product structure from the company.
When was the last time you saw a trip report where people talked about doing water sprite rentals?
Now those 'resort activities' all about fireworks cruises, pool breaks.. and maybe the nighttime movies for the kids.
Vacationing at WDW was radically different during the 70s and 80s for those who stayed onsite. The Disney decade started crowding the schedule.. and the ticketing changes that came along with MYW structure and Disney's continued growth and marketing strategies honed visitors into focusing on the parks by bundling hotel and ticket lengths in packages. Add in the marketing they'd drone into everyone in the room TVs about 'cant miss' (anything) and people would run themselves ragged trying to get to everything on property. Who has got time for an afternoon on the lake when there is stuff you haven't seen yet!!!
The pacing, pricing, marketing and scale of WDW killed the vacation kingdom and turned it into the Theme Park Kingdom.
I honestly don't know why Americans insist on having these 350sq ft hotel rooms at a place like Disney when most just use them to sleep and get changed. Euro Urban sized hotel rooms would work just as well if American stigmas weren't already entrenched about what makes a hotel 'good' or not.
Agreed. I can buy the Sorcerer one because of DVC, but not everyone can. Letting DVC members buy the Pirate one would also potentially be worth it. I have no desire to be there on those blockout dates.
Agreed. Why not sell a cheaper pass to an out of stater who could come down during a non peak times. But....since I'm paying $1500 per pass, we are going to clog up lines during Christmas week.
Back in the day (early 2000's)when I went to WDW mostly every year, we would take advantage of "Bounceback" coupons- In the 2009 recession I stayed at FQ and the "Bounceback" flyer was placed in our room the night before checkout- it offered 40% off Deluxe rooms Plus free dining if we came back within a year- We jumped on theat and came back 11.5 months later and stayed at the Yacht Club for like $180 a night. After getting rooms so cheap for so long we quit staying onsite when they more than doubled (and now tripled) in price. We also haven't been to WDW at all since 2018 even though we are much better off financially.
Most definitely. Not a lot of forethought there and definitely being cheap.
