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Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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NelsonRD said:
This post is too uneducated to comprehend. I am not sure your point. There was a fight for higher minimum wage, which included raises on tipped wages (which has almost doubled in the last 10 years). They receive a higher wage now, which is now passed on to the patrons as higher food cost, and it is not unreasonable to adjust tipping standards in relation to the raised wage.

Grow up if you are suggesting/support people spitting in food because I tip 10% instead of 18%, when the bill comes, before they even know what I am going to tip to begin with.
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Well, you would know uneducated wouldn't you! You be you!
 
Figgy1

Figgy1

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NelsonRD said:
This post is too uneducated to comprehend. I am not sure your point. There was a fight for higher minimum wage, which included raises on tipped wages (which has almost doubled in the last 10 years). They receive a higher wage now, which is now passed on to the patrons as higher food cost, and it is not unreasonable to adjust tipping standards in relation to the raised wage.

Grow up if you are suggesting/support people spitting in food because I tip 10% instead of 18%, when the bill comes, before they even know what I am going to tip to begin with.
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Most waitstaff are still receiving below minimum wage and have to tip out a percentage of checks not tips to other staff. Do you want people handling your food to walk out the door with less than minimum wage?
 
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TalkToEthan

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Tipping is out of control

2 years back I had corrective surgery on a scar…………after the procedure the office mngr asked how much tip I’d like to leave the practitioner—-I was shocked.!! Tipping MD’s now??!?!!

I decided to tip only because Dr.s fee for that procedure was remarkably cheap…..way too cheap as in perhaps 1/4 of what many others would have charged AND she did stellar work.
 
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Disneylover69

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TalkToEthan said:
Tipping is out of control

2 years back I had corrective surgery on a scar…………after the procedure the office mngr asked how much tip I’d like to leave the practitioner—-I was shocked.!! Tipping MD’s now??!?!!

I decided to tip only because Dr.s fee for that procedure was remarkably cheap…..way too cheap as in perhaps 1/4 of what many others would have charged AND she did stellar work.
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Where is the /s/ mark lol
 
MickeyLuv'r

MickeyLuv'r

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There seems to be a good deal of confusion about how tipped employees are paid. I will try to clarify.

The national min wage for tipped employees is 7.25, but it is higher in most states, and typically they earn well above that amount most days. The FL min is $12/hour. (Orlando might be higher if there is a local law, I'm not sure.)

BUT....it gets a bit complicated. Most of the time, waitstaff earn above that min wage. If - using FL as an example, a worker earns above that $12/hour then the business still has to pay them something ON TOP of their tips., and THAT secondary amount is called the min cash wage. In FL it is $8.98. No matter how much I earn in tips, the business still has to pay me that min cash wage.

Here is every state: https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped

So using FL as an example. If I earned $2/hour, the business would have to kick in $10/hour to = the $12.
If I earned $9, they would kick in $8.98. they can only count $3.02 of my tips towards the $12 min.
If I earned $30/hour, they would still have to pay me an additional $8.98/hour.



Tipped employees cannot earn below the min wage for tipped employees, that's illegal. (Most of the time, they earn above that amount.) The main exception is if there was really bad weather. Generally, workers are sent home if that's the case, because the business isn't making money. They don't want to have to pay people who don't have customers.

Oh, one more thing. Pretty much every employee is also given a food discount of some kind, like 40% off food they order at the end of thier shift. They also usually get free soft drinks.

On the other hand, after looking at the same food for 7 hours, I often didn't really want to eat the food I was serving. Most places I worked- and this is till true- if a food item got messed up- like a muffin fell apart or a cookie got broken, I might get to take it for free. Leftover food that was not served to any customers, is also sometimes up for grabs at the end of the night. (Leftover baked goods maybe.)
 
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Chi84

Chi84

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MickeyLuv'r said:
There seems to be a good deal of confusion about how tipped employees are paid. I will try to clarify.

The national min wage for tipped employees is 7.25, but it is higher in most states, and typically they earn well above that amount most days. The FL min is $12/hour.

BUT....it gets a bit complicated. Most of the time, waitstaff earn above that min wage. If - using FL as an example, a worker earns above that $12/hour then the business still has to pay them something ON TOP of their tips., and THAT secondary amount is called the min cash wage.

So using FL as an example. If I earned $2/hour, the business would have to kick in $10/hour to = the $12.
If I earned $9, they would kick in $3.

Except there's also a 3rd number, called the Maximum tip credit Against Min wage. If FL it is $3.02. To get to $12, the business can only count $3.02 of my tips towards min wage. In most places, like FL, the math is even, but in a few places that amount might be different.

Tipped employees cannot earn below the min wage for tipped employees, that's illegal. Most of the time, they earn above that amount. The main exception is if there was really bad weather. Generally, workers are sent home if that's the case, because the business isn't making money. They don't want to have to pay people who don't have customers.
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That makes sense. Thanks for clarifying! If business is slow (not talking about Disney) and they send a server home 3 hours before the end of their scheduled 8-hour shift, what does the business pay for those 3 hours?
 
JoeCamel

JoeCamel

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Chef Mickey said:
I am a generous tipper. I tip 50%-100% but if you suck, I will leave 0-5% without hesitation.

My general tipping points are:
  • Not running out of water.
  • Asking how the food is or if I need anything else at least once.
  • SOME general kindness/enthusiasm for being there and acting like you care.
  • Not getting my order wrong and if it is wrong, correcting it without acting like it was my fault.
  • Bonus points, asking if I'd like dessert. I dunno, I get irritated when they just bring the bill abruptly and fail to ask if we're done.
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That sounds like normal expected service levels, If they achieve that I tip 20%
Food is poor but service is normal and I say nothing - 20%
If food is good and service is normal - 20%
For service gaffes or exceptional performance I adjust up or down from 20%

To tip 50%-100% I would have to be drunk
 
Chef Mickey

Chef Mickey

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JoeCamel said:
That sounds like normal expected service levels, If they achieve that I tip 20%
Food is poor but service is normal and I say nothing - 20%
If food is good and service is normal - 20%
For service gaffes or exceptional performance I adjust up or down from 20%

To tip 50%-100% I would have to be drunk
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My tipping policy is somewhat philosophical and is a way I like to give back to people working tougher jobs and probably need the cash.
 
Chef Mickey

Chef Mickey

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Chi84 said:
Most of the time we’re at buffets we’re with other family members. This last trip we had 6 adults and 4 very young kids. The server at Boma spent a ridiculous amount of time clearing our plates and being friendly to the kids.

The 18% was added automatically but I’m pretty sure my husband added something to it.

When it’s just the 2 of us we don’t go to the buffets.
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That's nice of you.

However, 18% isn't a low tip in any normal sense, particularly when the food is objectively overpriced like at Dsiney.

If 18% were low, Disney wouldn't use that figure for automatic gratuity. They'd use whatever is generally accepted. 18% is that number because it's usually 15-20%.

That's a reason I said you were being argumentative.
 
Chi84

Chi84

Premium Member
Chef Mickey said:
That's nice of you.

However, 18% isn't a low tip in any normal sense, particularly when the food is objectively overpriced like at Dsiney.

If 18% were low, Disney wouldn't use that figure for automatic gratuity. They'd use whatever is generally accepted. 18% is that number because it's usually 15-20%.

That's a reason I said you were being argumentative.
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I don’t think I’m being argumentative, but I did get a bit silly from time to time. It’s hard not to in this thread.

Also, I think what’s generally accepted varies somewhat by location.
 
Chef Mickey

Chef Mickey

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Chi84 said:
I don’t think I’m being argumentative, but I did get a bit silly from time to time. It’s hard not to in this thread.

Also, I think what’s generally accepted varies somewhat by location.
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I don't have an issue with it. I'm the same way sometimes.

But 15-20% is generally accepted, almost anywhere. The idea is, the tip dollars go up with the price of the food. Even at fine dining, 20% is a solid tip because the meal might be $700 for 2. You only really adjust the % upward in lower priced situations, because for a $20 meal, leaving $4 is cheesy. I leave $20, so that's 100%.
 
Chi84

Chi84

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Chef Mickey said:
I don't have an issue with it. I'm the same way sometimes.

But 15-20% is generally accepted, almost anywhere. The idea is, the tip dollars go up with the price of the food. Even at fine dining, 20% is a solid tip because the meal might be $700 for 2. You only really adjust the % upward in lower priced situations, because for a $20 meal, leaving $4 is cheesy. I leave $20.
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If you tip 15% in downtown Chicago they’ll remember you if you return 😂
 

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