Would you visit Walt Disney World with these health-based operational restrictions in place?

[Seanual757]

Good point...I didn’t narc that out.

Orlando residents are on a completely different wavelength than the rest of the audience...

I’m a couple of grand deep into any trip as I leave for it - minimum - and that’s with DVC.

Different story when it’s $3.00 in gas and you can give up and go home when it sucks...

Correct Disney is going to lean on the locals even more not to help fill the parks as best as they can and the rooms I fully expect heavy FL resident discounts for both parks and resorts and even lower prices for Annual passes to help.

Disney cannot stay closed until this is over that is a FACT not Fiction.

Yes since we are local and DVC owners it's very easy for us to come and go when we want that is the benefit of us being local. We know what the central Florida economy is like and we know what Disney means to it far more than any person who is from out of state.

If I was from out of the state I might not come back to Disney for a while not because of the restrictions I just do not know what way the economy is going to go.

I am planning to travel to Detroit in August for the Woodward Dream Cruise if I go I will go knowing I must wear a face mask on the plane and out in certain places in Detroit. I know this and I am ok with this I have a choice do it or don't go.

I get it folks do not like change they do not want to wear masks, have limited access, limited options ect... That is YOUR choice just as after 9/11 it was YOUR choice to board an aircraft that was 98% empty, having to take off your shoes, belts, empty your bag, ect... You either do it or you don't same with Disney you either come with the (speculation) new requirements or you don't.

Will we ever go back to the old norm my guess is no after 19 years we have not gotten back to the norm of flying so we might see this as the new norm for a very long time. Embrace change or be left behind and pray that yes one day we can go back to the norm just remember when and if we go back to the new norm in 1, 2, 3, 5, or 10 years people will complain the parks are too crowded or ect........

 

[larryz]

Nobody officially said the pools would be closed. It’s just hard to imagine how masks and social distancing could work in a pool. You could space out lounge chairs and close water slides. In the pool itself you can’t really have effective social distancing or masks unless you don’t allow anyone to dunk their head underwater or move around much.

And you have to wonder how SARS-CoV-2 reacts in the surface slick of body oil and suntan lotion... does it die, or do the sunscreens in the suntan lotion protect it from both the pool chemicals and the sun's UV light?

 

[GoofGoof]

And you have to wonder how SARS-CoV-2 reacts in the surface slick of body oil and suntan lotion... does it die, or do the sunscreens in the suntan lotion protect it from both the pool chemicals and the sun's UV light?

No clue if anyone has looked at that, but the virus does seem to be relatively easy to kill. Basic soap and water do the trick. I’m sure chlorine in the pool water will kill it. Surfaces like pool ladders or water slide railings on staircases are probably less risky than a dry area with similar touch points because they are both out in the sun and also potentially mixed with some chlorine water. There’s still no answer for social distancing in the pool itself.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Correct Disney is going to lean on the locals even more not to help fill the parks as best as they can and the rooms I fully expect heavy FL resident discounts for both parks and resorts and even lower prices for Annual passes to help.

Disney cannot stay closed until this is over that is a FACT not Fiction.

Yes since we are local and DVC owners it's very easy for us to come and go when we want that is the benefit of us being local. We know what the central Florida economy is like and we know what Disney means to it far more than any person who is from out of state.

If I was from out of the state I might not come back to Disney for a while not because of the restrictions I just do not know what way the economy is going to go.

I am planning to travel to Detroit in August for the Woodward Dream Cruise if I go I will go knowing I must wear a face mask on the plane and out in certain places in Detroit. I know this and I am ok with this I have a choice do it or don't go.

I get it folks do not like change they do not want to wear masks, have limited access, limited options ect... That is YOUR choice just as after 9/11 it was YOUR choice to board an aircraft that was 98% empty, having to take off your shoes, belts, empty your bag, ect... You either do it or you don't same with Disney you either come with the (speculation) new requirements or you don't.

Will we ever go back to the old norm my guess is no after 19 years we have not gotten back to the norm of flying so we might see this as the new norm for a very long time. Embrace change or be left behind and pray that yes one day we can go back to the norm just remember when and if we go back to the new norm in 1, 2, 3, 5, or 10 years people will complain the parks are too crowded or ect........

I was a guest service manager in wdw on 9/11 and worked in Team Disney in 2002.

I’m aware of the facts of that case and how they differ from now. I don’t see the comparison that’s widely being made.

I wouldn’t expect discounts beyond the normal for a slow year that this was shaping up as...at least not until they ramp up to try to get to 100%. That will be quickly.

I’ll say this for the 55th time on the 15th corona thread: Florida residents are a good starting point but in no way can you carry the complex to profitability.

First, it’s got a chance if everyone shows - which won’t happen - to get you to about 30% of normal crowds on the best day...and that’s not profitable. And it would involve massive closures if things to even get the employee levels manageable.

I love Florida...being there is enough even though it run like some bizarre third world junta at times...
I love California to travel too as well...and that includes Disneyland. But I couldn’t choose it permanently over the swamp...
That being said...Florida residents are finicky in a lot of ways too...that doesn’t fit “Florida only” parks. They avoid the parks in the heat...they’re trained not to go during the summer and holiday weeks. The like “long weekends” that doesn’t work for Disney now. Dead midweeks and employee flux. They also are trained to expect large deals and ticket discounts due to low wages and/or proximity perks...
Not sure that works either.

And that is only a temporary goal at best...have to ramp up...which may push the closer longer than people assume.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

And you have to wonder how SARS-CoV-2 reacts in the surface slick of body oil and suntan lotion... does it die, or do the sunscreens in the suntan lotion protect it from both the pool chemicals and the sun's UV light?

Nobody freaking knows...that’s why all “I’m sure” proclamations are inherently wrong. About near everything.

I’d love to be at the OKW pool right now and I don’t want anyone nearby.
But not without the Suitcase...and are people leaning on the bar all day as usual if it’s open? Am I gonna remember to touch nothing else after?
How much am I willing to pay for any of the scenarios?

 

[seascape]

We are getting ready for our June 10 trip. What will we do? Disney Springs will be open. We will play one round of kick golf. Then see a Drive in Movie. My wife has never been to a drive in. There is also a drive thru safari 45 minutes away. Hopefully some other local attractions will be open but even if none are open we will have a great time. Visit Central Florida now because they need us and if we want them to survive they need tourists.

 

[G00fyDad]

We are getting ready for our June 10 trip. What will we do? Disney Springs will be open. We will play one round of kick golf. Then see a Drive in Movie. My wife has never been to a drive in. There is also a drive thru safari 45 minutes away. Hopefully some other local attractions will be open but even if none are open we will have a great time. Visit Central Florida now because they need us and if we want them to survive they need tourists.

Maybe postpone to July? WDW announced that they will be accepting reservations for July.

 

[GoofGoof]

Maybe postpone to July? WDW announced that they will be accepting reservations for July.

They did push the reservation date to 7/1 but the WDW Senior VP on the local task force said that just because they are accepting reservations for 7/1 doesn’t mean they will be open by then. It could be July 1, it may be later. It’s looking pretty doubtful it will be before 7/1. Anything is possible though.

 

[peter11435]

They did push the reservation date to 7/1 but the WDW Senior VP on the local task force said that just because they are accepting reservations for 7/1 doesn’t mean they will be open by then. It could be July 1, it may be later. It’s looking pretty doubtful it will be before 7/1. Anything is possible though.

Technically he said that in regard to 6/1

 

[robhedin]

Technically he said that in regard to 6/1

He just resaid it in regards to 7/1

 

[Seanual757]

I was a guest service manager in wdw on 9/11 and worked in Team Disney in 2002.

I’m aware of the facts of that case and how they differ from now. I don’t see the comparison that’s widely being made.

I wouldn’t expect discounts beyond the normal for a slow year that this was shaping up as...at least not until they ramp up to try to get to 100%. That will be quickly.

I’ll say this for the 55th time on the 15th corona thread: Florida residents are a good starting point but in no way can you carry the complex to profitability.

First, it’s got a chance if everyone shows - which won’t happen - to get you to about 30% of normal crowds on the best day...and that’s not profitable. And it would involve massive closures if things to even get the employee levels manageable.

I love Florida...being there is enough even though it run like some bizarre third world junta at times...
I love California to travel too as well...and that includes Disneyland. But I couldn’t choose it permanently over the swamp...
That being said...Florida residents are finicky in a lot of ways too...that doesn’t fit “Florida only” parks. They avoid the parks in the heat...they’re trained not to go during the summer and holiday weeks. The like “long weekends” that doesn’t work for Disney now. Dead midweeks and employee flux. They also are trained to expect large deals and ticket discounts due to low wages and/or proximity perks...
Not sure that works either.

And that is only a temporary goal at best...have to ramp up...which may push the closer longer than people assume.

Yes you are correct this is not like 9/11 it’s far different and this is why Disney will rely on Florida residents so much more. Now at time when folks cannot travel and even if they can travel the majority will need to do so by car and even as Airlines add flights we will NOT see the number of seats coming to Orlando like we used to see we may not see that for years to come. So yes Disney will rely heavily on bringing in new APH’s and offering better discounts then you would get if you were a Florida resident for hotel and parks. It will happen Disney will have no choice but to do what they can to bring in the old pass holders who did not re-new because of prices. We are un unchartered waters and Disney will have to navigate these new waters. You possible may not see traffic return to Orlando for 3-5 years which Disney will need Florida residents even more.

 

[peter11435]

He just resaid it in regards to 7/1

Thanks. I missed that

 

[GoofGoof]

Thanks. I missed that

Steve snuck in that little bit of actual news amongst all this back and forth.

I think the truth is that they really just don’t know yet when they are going to be able to open, but they aren’t just going to stop taking any reservations. They need to set a date for reservations and then adjust from there. They are also smartly cancelling a week at a time instead of whole months. The waits for operators are long even a week at a time imagine if they just said all June reservations will be cancelled? You would be on hold for hours.

 

[Thelazer]

I question the open the window, then cancel strategy. All that does is turn off folks who DO book, when it gets canceled.
People book, try to make airplane and car reservations etc.. to many moving parts.

Better to announce a date and STICK WITH IT, or not take reservations at all.

 

[Jrb1979]

I question the open the window, then cancel strategy. All that does is turn off folks who DO book, when it gets canceled.
People book, try to make airplane and car reservations etc.. to many moving parts.

Better to announce a date and STICK WITH IT, or not take reservations at all.

I've been saying that for awhile now. No other theme park company is doing that. Universal isn't doing it. Cedar Point which has a hotel on property isn't either. You can book hotels for both but they aren't encouraging it.

 

[Thelazer]

Universal announcement is coming shortly, before Disney announces anything.
Univseral is ready to be "The locals" park and do what they can to get attendance in.

 

[GoofGoof]

I've been saying that for awhile now. No other theme park company is doing that. Universal isn't doing it. Cedar Point which has a hotel on property isn't either. You can book hotels for both but they aren't encouraging it.

Universal is taking hotel reservations from 6/1 forward. They are offering a stress free cancellation policy for any reservation through 8/31 which basically just waives cancellation fees. Disney has done the same with waiving fees. It’s pretty much the same thing except they haven’t pushed to 7/1 yet.

 

[Jrb1979]

Universal is taking hotel reservations from 6/1 forward. They are offering a stress free cancellation policy for any reservation through 8/31 which basically just waives cancellation fees. Disney has done the same with waiving fees. It’s pretty much the same thing except they haven’t pushed to 7/1 yet.

The difference is Universal isn't encouraging reservations like Disney is. I have yet to see Universal put press announcing dates when people can start reservations.

 

[WondersOfLife]

The difference is Universal isn't encouraging reservations like Disney is. I have yet to see Universal put press announcing dates when people can start reservations.

When has Disney encouraged reservations?

Their website says everything is currently closed and not guaranteed. Chapek himself said everything is not guaranteed. We just got an announcement stating that July reservations are not guaranteed. Where is this encouragement you see outside of the “news” articles?

 

[Communicora]

When has Disney encouraged reservations?

Their website says everything is currently closed and not guaranteed. Chapek himself said everything is not guaranteed. We just got an announcement stating that July reservations are not guaranteed. Where is this encouragement you see outside of the “news” articles?

That big push with free dining for people who had trips canceled due to Covid-19 seems rather unfortunate.