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ajrwdwgirl

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Oh yeah, my husband leaves dishes and stuff all over the house. You don't even want to see the area next to his side of the bed. I don't touch that....that's HIS mess to clean up. I'll empty my own trash, the one in the laundry closet, and the one in the bathroom, but he has to do his own, and he usually only does it when I tell him he needs to do it because I can't get to his corner of the bed to make it anymore because of all the dishes and empty packaging there. Everyone seems to be allergic to emptying trash cans. None of them will ever get emptied until I do it. The one in the livingroom, if it's full, they'll just start throwing things on the floor next to it. And I got really frustrated a few years ago when I came home from work to find my regular sized kitchen bin replaced with a smaller bin with 3 compartments. We have to separate our trash into plastic, organic, and regular trash. When we first moved in, he didn't want to have a trash can in the kitchen at all. His parents don't have one....theirs is outside. Every time you want to throw something away, you have to go outside. If it's pouring down rain, I'm not going outside just to throw something away! So I said no way, I need a trash can in my kitchen. Well, he thought it would be handier to have the one with 3 compartments, and had they all been regular sized, it would have been, but the can is smaller than a standard trashcan, and then it has 3 compartments, each about the size of one of those little ones like you put in a bathroom or bedroom. Not much fits in those, which is fine for an area that doesn't generate much waste, but the kitchen is where 80% of the trash comes from, with food packaging, vegetable peels, papertowels from wiping up spills, etc. So the compartments would all be full after half a day, but no one would ever empty them except me. And when it was full, they'd just throw stuff on the floor next to it, so I'd have to pick all that up AND take the trash out constantly. And it sits under a counter top, and has the foot pedal to open them, which they can't open all the way while it's under the counter. It kept sliding all the way back, so every time you wanted to throw something away, you had to reach under the counter and pull it out before you could access it, and then 9 times out of 10 it was already full and I'd have to empty it before I could throw anything away. It was SO inconvenient, and I HATE that thing. I told him after a month or two that I wasn't going to use it anymore and it was his responsibility to empty it, because it was a pain, and as I wouldn't be contributing to its filling, I wasn't going to contribute to its emptying either. It got full, no one ever emptied it, and it got pushed into the back where no one can get to it, and now everyone just leaves their trash sitting wherever. I'm pretty much the only one who works in the kitchen anyway. I have to make several trips out per day to get rid of trash, but at least I don't have to mess with pulling the bin out and finding it full, etc. Finally last week, my husband admitted defeat and ordered a couple of bins like my old one, so we can still separate the trash, but have decent sized bins. My husband has a habit of thinking of things that he THINKS will be handy, but that he doesn't ever have to deal with, so he does it, and then it turns out he hasn't thought it through and it's not nearly as handy as he was thinking it would be. "We should put screens on the windows so the mosquitos can't get in!" I told him it wouldn't work....the windows open to the outside, but have a lever thingy that goes to the INSIDE, so if you put a screen there, you can't open the window. Oh, no, we can do it....I'll figure it out! he says. He buys all the framing and screen etc....starts in A's room, removes the lever so it's not in the way of the screen...and then realizes if he puts a screen there, you can't get to the window to open it. "We should put a different lock on the port so we can lock it from the outside so we don't have to go around to the front every time to lock it from the inside!" I told him I didn't think it would work because the door doesn't "latch". It's a sliding bar system like a bathroom stall door. The latch isn't INSIDE the door, it just has a bar the slides across into a loop on the wall. He bought a lock mechanism, pried off the sliding bar and loop....then realised there's no way to install a lock that fits into the door and the wall....there's no hole in the brick wall, nor in the door tofit the lock mechanism into. But he's the only one of us who doesn't have a bike and never has to go out the back, so he had never really paid attention to how the door was set up. He figures as an engineer, he can figure something out, but he doesn't look first. He buys all the stuff, and starts pulling things apart, and then realizes afterward that what he wanted to do won't work, and then he sets it aside "until he can get the right stuff" and then it just sits there for years because he never gets back around to getting whatever he needed.

I know he doesn't INTEND for me to do everything. Just the other day, when I had to work and he didn't, I went to the grocery store and he had wanted something particular for dinner that didn't sound good at all, so I was eating something different. I started cooking and he came in and said I didn't have to cook his food, I don't have to do everything, he's a big boy and can do it himself. I know he CAN, it's just that he usually DOESN'T. He's perfectly capable of taking his own dishes to the kitchen, of emptying his own trash, etc, but when a dish has been sitting there for 2 weeks and it's a dish I need for some reason, I can't wait for another month for him to remember to take it down and put it in the dishwasher. I don't want to be the nagging wife always treating him like a child, telling him to clean his room or reminding him 6 times to do this or that. And I know from past experience that his strategy is to nod and say "Sure" and then ignore whatever I said. He told me that's how I should handle his mom when she nags me to do certain things, like when she insisted that I should be riding a bike to my school every day instead of walking, and I kept telling her I preferred to walk, and she kept insisting that Dutch people ride bikes, I had to fit in and adapt, so I needed to ride a bike. He told me just to agree and then do what I wanted anyway. Agreeing would shut her up for a month or two and then when she brought it up again, I could just tell her "Yep, I'll do that." and then ignore it and walk. That's how he always dealt with his mom, and I notice he does the same thing to me. "Yeah, I'll mow the lawn tomorrow." and then when he doesn't, and I remind him, "I don't feel like it now. I'll do it on the weekend." and then he doesn't do it on the weekend, and something always comes up so he can't until I end up just doing it myself. It's not that he plans for me to do it all, it's just that he puts it off and puts it off, and it HAS to be done, so I end up doing it. And then he says "You didn't have to do that! I would have done it!" But there are worse things. It's frustrating, but nothing that's a real deal breaker, and nothing that most women don't have to deal with...from my friends and such, it sounds like it's pretty much standard. I don't really know many women who DON'T do the majority or all of the housekeeping tasks. I shouldn't complain, I guess, but sometimes it's nice to have the validation that it's not just me!

I think I'm a little spoiled. My husband does all the laundry, I do about 3-4 loads a year. During the school year he does the housekeeping (dusting, vacuuming, etc.) on Fridays which he has off, that way we can do stuff on Saturday or just relax. Over the summer I do all the deep cleaning and regular cleaning around the house. He also does all the lawnmowing but we typically both will shovel snow. I do 99% of all the cooking but he helps clean up.
 

Songbird76

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I think I'm a little spoiled. My husband does all the laundry, I do about 3-4 loads a year. During the school year he does the housekeeping (dusting, vacuuming, etc.) on Fridays which he has off, that way we can do stuff on Saturday or just relax. Over the summer I do all the deep cleaning and regular cleaning around the house. He also does all the lawnmowing but we typically both will shovel snow. I do 99% of all the cooking but he helps clean up.
That sounds like a nice arrangement! I wouldn't mind something like that at all! My husband was supposed to take care of the lawn, and when we first put the grass in, he did. But after a couple of months, he hadn't done it and the grass was getting really long. I'd mention it, and he'd say "Yeah, I'll do it tomorrow when I get home from work." Then after dinner, I'd remind him and he'd say "Yeah, I don't feel like it. I'll do it tomorrow." and then tomorrow, he'd have some excuse of why he couldn't do it, he'd do it on the weekend. Then the weekend would come and we'd go to his parents' house, so we weren't home for him to do it. He'd put it off for weeks at a time. Then we went on vacation for 3 weeks and he hadn't mowed the lawn. I had never used the mower before, so I didn't even know how to turn it on. We came back and it was so overgrown and there were weeds everywhere. I asked him to teach me to use the lawnmower so that if for some reason he couldn't do it, I could help out sometimes. Then he just never mowed the lawn again. It became my chore...and I'm the one with hay fever and I sunburn really easily, which was why he was supposed to do it in the first place (that and the fact that I am HORRIBLE with plants and can't even keep low maintenance ones alive). He'd just wait and wait and wait until I got tired of all the weeds and I'd go out and take care of it. But the damage was already done. It's been in terrible shape for YEARS. Once we went on that one vacation and it didn't get mowed for weeks on end, the weeds came in and there's moss growing in places, and the grass is dead and patchy...it's bad. And for every weed I'd pull, there'd be 3 more the next day. I never got it back into a good state. I'd really like to rip it all out and put in garden tiles like my neighbors have, but he doesn't like it...he thinks it's lacking in aesthetic attraction.....yeah, because weeds and dead grass look so much nicer! He wants to do something with gravel with some plant beds. I want something that I don't have to do anything to maintain. I've learned from experience that any maintenance is going to be up to me because he's never going to "feel like it." And I definitely don't want gravel, because it ends up all over the place and then you have to go and sweep the stones back into the yard and it will end up being more work for me to do. Little kids will come along and play with the stones and scatter them on the sidewalk, etc. I've considered telling him he's welcome to do whatever he wants with it as long as HE'S the one doing the maintenance, but I know he WON'T do the maintenance. He'll put in what he wants, and he'll keep it nice for the first week or two and then he won't feel like it one day, and he'll put it off, and then it will eventually end up just like the lawn....dead plants, weeds coming up everywhere, and it will look awful, and he'll just give up on fixing it and it will become another chore for me to do again. Once I do it one time to get it done, he never does it again because now I CAN do it, so he doesn't bother. He'll just wait it out until I can't stand it anymore and do it myself. I mean, I get it.....it's a pretty sweet deal for him. If I had someone to do it all so I didn't have to, that would be really nice. I always feel bad if someone else is working really hard and I'm relaxing, but he doesn't seem to have that issue. He can quite happily play on the computer while I'm scrubbing the floor, or mowing the lawn, or cleaning the bathrooms and he won't even offer to help. It doesn't even occur to him. He's completely oblivious to anything he's not experiencing himself.

By the way, I don't think you're spoiled at all....I think that's the way it SHOULD be. You both work, you should both do the chores around the house. And I don't mind doing more than half because I DON'T work full time, so things like dinner are easier for me because I'm home to do it and he's not. But I shouldn't be doing ALL the housework AND working part time.
 

ajrwdwgirl

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That sounds like a nice arrangement! I wouldn't mind something like that at all! My husband was supposed to take care of the lawn, and when we first put the grass in, he did. But after a couple of months, he hadn't done it and the grass was getting really long. I'd mention it, and he'd say "Yeah, I'll do it tomorrow when I get home from work." Then after dinner, I'd remind him and he'd say "Yeah, I don't feel like it. I'll do it tomorrow." and then tomorrow, he'd have some excuse of why he couldn't do it, he'd do it on the weekend. Then the weekend would come and we'd go to his parents' house, so we weren't home for him to do it. He'd put it off for weeks at a time. Then we went on vacation for 3 weeks and he hadn't mowed the lawn. I had never used the mower before, so I didn't even know how to turn it on. We came back and it was so overgrown and there were weeds everywhere. I asked him to teach me to use the lawnmower so that if for some reason he couldn't do it, I could help out sometimes. Then he just never mowed the lawn again. It became my chore...and I'm the one with hay fever and I sunburn really easily, which was why he was supposed to do it in the first place (that and the fact that I am HORRIBLE with plants and can't even keep low maintenance ones alive). He'd just wait and wait and wait until I got tired of all the weeds and I'd go out and take care of it. But the damage was already done. It's been in terrible shape for YEARS. Once we went on that one vacation and it didn't get mowed for weeks on end, the weeds came in and there's moss growing in places, and the grass is dead and patchy...it's bad. And for every weed I'd pull, there'd be 3 more the next day. I never got it back into a good state. I'd really like to rip it all out and put in garden tiles like my neighbors have, but he doesn't like it...he thinks it's lacking in aesthetic attraction.....yeah, because weeds and dead grass look so much nicer! He wants to do something with gravel with some plant beds. I want something that I don't have to do anything to maintain. I've learned from experience that any maintenance is going to be up to me because he's never going to "feel like it." And I definitely don't want gravel, because it ends up all over the place and then you have to go and sweep the stones back into the yard and it will end up being more work for me to do. Little kids will come along and play with the stones and scatter them on the sidewalk, etc. I've considered telling him he's welcome to do whatever he wants with it as long as HE'S the one doing the maintenance, but I know he WON'T do the maintenance. He'll put in what he wants, and he'll keep it nice for the first week or two and then he won't feel like it one day, and he'll put it off, and then it will eventually end up just like the lawn....dead plants, weeds coming up everywhere, and it will look awful, and he'll just give up on fixing it and it will become another chore for me to do again. Once I do it one time to get it done, he never does it again because now I CAN do it, so he doesn't bother. He'll just wait it out until I can't stand it anymore and do it myself. I mean, I get it.....it's a pretty sweet deal for him. If I had someone to do it all so I didn't have to, that would be really nice. I always feel bad if someone else is working really hard and I'm relaxing, but he doesn't seem to have that issue. He can quite happily play on the computer while I'm scrubbing the floor, or mowing the lawn, or cleaning the bathrooms and he won't even offer to help. It doesn't even occur to him. He's completely oblivious to anything he's not experiencing himself.

By the way, I don't think you're spoiled at all....I think that's the way it SHOULD be. You both work, you should both do the chores around the house. And I don't mind doing more than half because I DON'T work full time, so things like dinner are easier for me because I'm home to do it and he's not. But I shouldn't be doing ALL the housework AND working part time.

If you know he won't do anything about the yard, I say just do what you want and put the tiles in. If it will help you out in the long run. If he complains just shrug and move on.
 

Songbird76

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Calling sprained ankle experts @StarWarsGirl and @Figgy1 ! E twisted her ankle in PE and says it's swollen. I asked her if it's black and blue and if it hurt to walk, and she said it's not black and blue, and walking was less painful after PE, but then after sitting through her next class, it was more painful to walk again. How can we tell if it's sprained and should I take her to the doctor? She's still at school until almost 4 today, so I haven't actually seen it myself. She's just sending me texts.
 

Figgy1

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Calling sprained ankle experts @StarWarsGirl and @Figgy1 ! E twisted her ankle in PE and says it's swollen. I asked her if it's black and blue and if it hurt to walk, and she said it's not black and blue, and walking was less painful after PE, but then after sitting through her next class, it was more painful to walk again. How can we tell if it's sprained and should I take her to the doctor? She's still at school until almost 4 today, so I haven't actually seen it myself. She's just sending me texts.
Has the school nurse seen and wrapped it? Post a pic if you have one and start making ice LOTS of it!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tell E
feel better get well soon GIF by Greetings Island
 

Songbird76

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Has the school nurse seen and wrapped it? Post a pic if you have one and start making ice LOTS of it!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tell E
feel better get well soon GIF by Greetings Island
School nurses don't exist here. No such thing, but she said someone got her an ice pack and she used it until it wasn't cold anymore. I don't have any pictures of it. She'll be home in an hour and I'll try to get her in to the doctor to see if it needs further treatment. We've got ice packs and whatnot, and I told her to see if she could get a chair to elevate her ankle while she's sitting in class.
 

Figgy1

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School nurses don't exist here. No such thing, but she said someone got her an ice pack and she used it until it wasn't cold anymore. I don't have any pictures of it. She'll be home in an hour and I'll try to get her in to the doctor to see if it needs further treatment. We've got ice packs and whatnot, and I told her to see if she could get a chair to elevate her ankle while she's sitting in class.
Good luck. IMHO she should have been sent home so you could take her to the doctor right away
 

HouCuseChickie

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Oh Loveland is a BEAUTIFUL area....you'll get your mountain fix!! I'm still holding out for Yellowstone. We may not be able to plan to the extend that I like, but at this point, I just NEED to get back to Wyoming and see some nature and E has an assignment that she needs to be done while we're there. She has to work for a week in an English-speaking company, which is hard to do here since we're not near a big city with a lot of international businesses. If she can work in my brother's restaurant for a week, she's golden...he gets free labor, she gets her assignment done and can still earn some tip money without him having to pay her, and she gets some experience with customer relations, English, etc. If we can't make it "home" this summer, she'll have to figure something else out.

I'm so sorry about the infection. I wasn't given post-op antibiotics after my adenoid removal, but that's a completely different kind of surgery, and they don't give antibiotics for much over here....I don't know what protocol in the US would be. Do they USUALLY give antibiotics after surgery? I hope you are feeling better. How long before you will get your results?

Granted, it was pouring down rain, but we drove through Loveland in 2019. We were in Estes Park for 4 days, and had a rainy day where we drove to WY and NE. It wasn't the best weather for seeing the town, but it at least gave me an appreciation for how close it is to the mountains and one of our favorite parks. I hope you're able to get in your Yellowstone trip. It sounds like the perfect opportunity for E to complete her assignment.

I think my brain was still fresh from Sam's recent thumb surgery. She had a week of antibiotics after the surgery, but that may have also been because removable pins were involved and possibly presented a higher infection risk. My friend, who has undergone reconstructive back surgeries and several surgeries to repair his ankle, informed me that he's never been put on antibiotics after his surgeries. They said 7-10 business days on the results, but I'm due to go back in for my follow up on the 20th. They usually post results to the MyChart app as they come in, so it's likely I will see the results (and be forcing myself not to google too much of it) before this appointment.
 

HouCuseChickie

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Oh yeah, my husband leaves dishes and stuff all over the house. You don't even want to see the area next to his side of the bed. I don't touch that....that's HIS mess to clean up. I'll empty my own trash, the one in the laundry closet, and the one in the bathroom, but he has to do his own, and he usually only does it when I tell him he needs to do it because I can't get to his corner of the bed to make it anymore because of all the dishes and empty packaging there. Everyone seems to be allergic to emptying trash cans. None of them will ever get emptied until I do it. The one in the livingroom, if it's full, they'll just start throwing things on the floor next to it. And I got really frustrated a few years ago when I came home from work to find my regular sized kitchen bin replaced with a smaller bin with 3 compartments. We have to separate our trash into plastic, organic, and regular trash. When we first moved in, he didn't want to have a trash can in the kitchen at all. His parents don't have one....theirs is outside. Every time you want to throw something away, you have to go outside. If it's pouring down rain, I'm not going outside just to throw something away! So I said no way, I need a trash can in my kitchen. Well, he thought it would be handier to have the one with 3 compartments, and had they all been regular sized, it would have been, but the can is smaller than a standard trashcan, and then it has 3 compartments, each about the size of one of those little ones like you put in a bathroom or bedroom. Not much fits in those, which is fine for an area that doesn't generate much waste, but the kitchen is where 80% of the trash comes from, with food packaging, vegetable peels, papertowels from wiping up spills, etc. So the compartments would all be full after half a day, but no one would ever empty them except me. And when it was full, they'd just throw stuff on the floor next to it, so I'd have to pick all that up AND take the trash out constantly. And it sits under a counter top, and has the foot pedal to open them, which they can't open all the way while it's under the counter. It kept sliding all the way back, so every time you wanted to throw something away, you had to reach under the counter and pull it out before you could access it, and then 9 times out of 10 it was already full and I'd have to empty it before I could throw anything away. It was SO inconvenient, and I HATE that thing. I told him after a month or two that I wasn't going to use it anymore and it was his responsibility to empty it, because it was a pain, and as I wouldn't be contributing to its filling, I wasn't going to contribute to its emptying either. It got full, no one ever emptied it, and it got pushed into the back where no one can get to it, and now everyone just leaves their trash sitting wherever. I'm pretty much the only one who works in the kitchen anyway. I have to make several trips out per day to get rid of trash, but at least I don't have to mess with pulling the bin out and finding it full, etc. Finally last week, my husband admitted defeat and ordered a couple of bins like my old one, so we can still separate the trash, but have decent sized bins. My husband has a habit of thinking of things that he THINKS will be handy, but that he doesn't ever have to deal with, so he does it, and then it turns out he hasn't thought it through and it's not nearly as handy as he was thinking it would be. "We should put screens on the windows so the mosquitos can't get in!" I told him it wouldn't work....the windows open to the outside, but have a lever thingy that goes to the INSIDE, so if you put a screen there, you can't open the window. Oh, no, we can do it....I'll figure it out! he says. He buys all the framing and screen etc....starts in A's room, removes the lever so it's not in the way of the screen...and then realizes if he puts a screen there, you can't get to the window to open it. "We should put a different lock on the port so we can lock it from the outside so we don't have to go around to the front every time to lock it from the inside!" I told him I didn't think it would work because the door doesn't "latch". It's a sliding bar system like a bathroom stall door. The latch isn't INSIDE the door, it just has a bar the slides across into a loop on the wall. He bought a lock mechanism, pried off the sliding bar and loop....then realised there's no way to install a lock that fits into the door and the wall....there's no hole in the brick wall, nor in the door tofit the lock mechanism into. But he's the only one of us who doesn't have a bike and never has to go out the back, so he had never really paid attention to how the door was set up. He figures as an engineer, he can figure something out, but he doesn't look first. He buys all the stuff, and starts pulling things apart, and then realizes afterward that what he wanted to do won't work, and then he sets it aside "until he can get the right stuff" and then it just sits there for years because he never gets back around to getting whatever he needed.

I know he doesn't INTEND for me to do everything. Just the other day, when I had to work and he didn't, I went to the grocery store and he had wanted something particular for dinner that didn't sound good at all, so I was eating something different. I started cooking and he came in and said I didn't have to cook his food, I don't have to do everything, he's a big boy and can do it himself. I know he CAN, it's just that he usually DOESN'T. He's perfectly capable of taking his own dishes to the kitchen, of emptying his own trash, etc, but when a dish has been sitting there for 2 weeks and it's a dish I need for some reason, I can't wait for another month for him to remember to take it down and put it in the dishwasher. I don't want to be the nagging wife always treating him like a child, telling him to clean his room or reminding him 6 times to do this or that. And I know from past experience that his strategy is to nod and say "Sure" and then ignore whatever I said. He told me that's how I should handle his mom when she nags me to do certain things, like when she insisted that I should be riding a bike to my school every day instead of walking, and I kept telling her I preferred to walk, and she kept insisting that Dutch people ride bikes, I had to fit in and adapt, so I needed to ride a bike. He told me just to agree and then do what I wanted anyway. Agreeing would shut her up for a month or two and then when she brought it up again, I could just tell her "Yep, I'll do that." and then ignore it and walk. That's how he always dealt with his mom, and I notice he does the same thing to me. "Yeah, I'll mow the lawn tomorrow." and then when he doesn't, and I remind him, "I don't feel like it now. I'll do it on the weekend." and then he doesn't do it on the weekend, and something always comes up so he can't until I end up just doing it myself. It's not that he plans for me to do it all, it's just that he puts it off and puts it off, and it HAS to be done, so I end up doing it. And then he says "You didn't have to do that! I would have done it!" But there are worse things. It's frustrating, but nothing that's a real deal breaker, and nothing that most women don't have to deal with...from my friends and such, it sounds like it's pretty much standard. I don't really know many women who DON'T do the majority or all of the housekeeping tasks. I shouldn't complain, I guess, but sometimes it's nice to have the validation that it's not just me!

First off, I hate your trashcan. Just reading the description made me angry. Many people in this house also have an aversion to emptying trash cans. I NEED larger cans to deal with it. I'm also with you on having a trashcan in the kitchen. Our recycle bin stays outside, but it's right out the back door.

I'm very thankful that my husband doesn't think he's particularly handy. Shortly after we were married, I bought a ceiling fan that I loved, expecting him to be able to install it in our master bedroom. He had no idea what to do with it. We never got around to installing it and sold it a couple of years later before selling that house. Since then, any light fixtures and fans have resulted in us hiring an electrician. One of my coworkers couldn't comprehend why my husband couldn't do such projects on his own, like hers. Her husband installs commercial security and theater systems. I would think he's pretty used to playing with electricity, whereas my husband's work has nothing to do with such things. I was also thinking about your screens. I've seen some solar screens here that are permanently secured to the outside. They're mainly for helping with heating and cooling, but it may be an option for you guys. Although, you probably don't want him to install them.

It's funny you bring up mowing the lawn. We hired a local guy to do our yard in our last house after our lawnmower broke. My husband had just decided he'd rather pay someone than pay for a new one. When we moved into our current house, he decided he missed yard work, so he bought an electric mower and weed eater...so he'd never have to deal with a gas engine again. At some point over the last year, he got tired of doing the yard and hired someone. 🤦‍♀️ We've also tried to shift some of the housekeeping to the kids. If they want to earn some extra $$, get to work! 😁 I also use it as a punishment. K was being a drama queen the other morning, got really nasty with me, and was 15 minutes late getting out of the house...so she cleaned the kitchen. The reality is that we all have our challenges and annoyances. I know a pretty good mix of people and have decided it all comes down to...whatever works for you guys.
 

Songbird76

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Good luck. IMHO she should have been sent home so you could take her to the doctor right away
Holy swelling, batman! It looks like there's a tennis ball in her ankle! I called the doctor and the assistant said that since she can stand on it, it's likely a sprain and they can't do anything about it, so she doesn't need to be seen, probably. I asked her if she wanted us to come get her and take her to the doctor, she said she was fine. She was obviously under stating things. The pictures don't fully show how swollen it is.
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HouCuseChickie

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Happy Monday!

We think I've been overdoing it with my leg, so I cut back on my walking a bit. Still getting in some, but changing it up for more meaningful movement. For example, this morning was the first time I climbed the stairs in a more normal fashion. It was SLOOOOOOW, but I did it. I also regained a lot more range of motion last night, so I did a few laps around the house with more normal movement...also slowly, because the muscles and tendons need a chance to wake up too.

The weekend started with K getting her learner's permit. We were hoping to take her out to the high school parking lot on Saturday to get in some driving, but we had some really nasty weather. We had three separate tornado warnings Saturday into early Sunday. The one around 1:15am-2am actually produced a tornado in our area. Nothing huge, but an EF-1 can still cause a ton of damage. Based on the track, it was only about 3 blocks to the west of our house towards the end of its track. As you may recall, we live in a heavily wooded area. So, in addition to standard wind damage, a lot of people had trees slice through their homes and cars. So, we're very thankful we were spared.
 

Songbird76

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Holy swelling, batman! It looks like there's a tennis ball in her ankle! I called the doctor and the assistant said that since she can stand on it, it's likely a sprain and they can't do anything about it, so she doesn't need to be seen, probably. I asked her if she wanted us to come get her and take her to the doctor, she said she was fine. She was obviously under stating things. The pictures don't fully show how swollen it is.
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So I noticed after I talked to the doctor's assistant that her whole foot and everything is swollen, not just her ankle. There's a big bulge on the ankle, but the rest of the area is also all thick. I should have taken a Pic of both ankles/feet together so the difference is more visible.
 

HouCuseChickie

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Holy swelling, batman! It looks like there's a tennis ball in her ankle! I called the doctor and the assistant said that since she can stand on it, it's likely a sprain and they can't do anything about it, so she doesn't need to be seen, probably. I asked her if she wanted us to come get her and take her to the doctor, she said she was fine. She was obviously under stating things. The pictures don't fully show how swollen it is.
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Maybe I'm being an overreacting mom, but I'd want to get an Xray just to be sure. When K broke her ankle in 2019, the original Xray didn't show a break. The ER treated it as a sprain, but I was referred to an orthopedist to do follow up review. By the time she got into the orthopedist, the break was visible on her new Xrays. In the week leading up to seeing the orthopedist- when we still thought it was just a sprain, she was required to be on crutches...absolutely no weight on the ankle even if she could. She had to keep it iced, elevated, wrapped...and lots of rest. OTC pain meds also helped. I think we stuck with ibuprofen since it was better for the swelling. Just my 2 cents :)
 

StarWarsGirl

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In the Parks
No
Holy swelling, batman! It looks like there's a tennis ball in her ankle! I called the doctor and the assistant said that since she can stand on it, it's likely a sprain and they can't do anything about it, so she doesn't need to be seen, probably. I asked her if she wanted us to come get her and take her to the doctor, she said she was fine. She was obviously under stating things. The pictures don't fully show how swollen it is.
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Yup that's a sprain. Put it in a brace, and other than that, RICE it.

As far as which brace, one like this: Amazon product ASIN B01LYQU9K4Don't put it in one that just wraps around.
 

Figgy1

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Holy swelling, batman! It looks like there's a tennis ball in her ankle! I called the doctor and the assistant said that since she can stand on it, it's likely a sprain and they can't do anything about it, so she doesn't need to be seen, probably. I asked her if she wanted us to come get her and take her to the doctor, she said she was fine. She was obviously under stating things. The pictures don't fully show how swollen it is.
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Yup that's a sprain. Put it in a brace, and other than that, RICE it.

As far as which brace, one like this: Amazon product ASIN B01LYQU9K4Don't put it in one that just wraps around.
^^^^^Don't let her walk on it without a proper brace and if it gets any worse get her to the doctor. IMHO a walking boot would be best. Just adding I walked on a broken ankle for a couple of days once. Just because you can bear some weight doesn not mean it isn't broken
 

Songbird76

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Maybe I'm being an overreacting mom, but I'd want to get an Xray just to be sure. When K broke her ankle in 2019, the original Xray didn't show a break. The ER treated it as a sprain, but I was referred to an orthopedist to do follow up review. By the time she got into the orthopedist, the break was visible on her new Xrays. In the week leading up to seeing the orthopedist- when we still thought it was just a sprain, she was required to be on crutches...absolutely no weight on the ankle even if she could. She had to keep it iced, elevated, wrapped...and lots of rest. OTC pain meds also helped. I think we stuck with ibuprofen since it was better for the swelling. Just my 2 cents :)
Yeah, I'm taking her to the doctor tomorrow morning. When she first texted me that she twisted her ankle, I asked her if we needed to come "rescue" her, and she said she was fine. Her teacher helped her to a bench, but he never looked at it to see that it was so swollen. So I'm thinking that's why I didn't get called....she's stubborn and doesn't want to be a "burden" or to cause problems, so she didn't want to complain, but it's obviously worse than she thought it was when it first happened. When she got home and I actually saw it, I was shocked at how swollen it is. The swelling around in and around her toes has gone down, but it still looks like she has a tennis ball in the ankle and there's a big bulge on the top of her foot, too. So I'm just going to make her an appointment for tomorrow and not let them tell me she doesn't need to.

Could K walk when she broke the ankle? When E has been sitting for a while, it's hard for her to get back up and walk. She slides down the stairs on her rear and goes back up the same way so she doesn't put weight on the ankle. She's got a chair on wheels in her room, so that's how she's getting around upstairs. She CAN walk, but it really hurts, and I have a suspicion that it's going to be worse in the morning after she's been lying down all night. She's afraid she won't be able to sleep. We'll just have to see, but I'm like you....I just don't trust it, and the Dutch always try to do as little as possible when it comes to stuff like this. When A was only 3 weeks old, he was coughing up a storm and couldn't nurse. We found out my MIL had been exposed to whooping cough, and she had visited a lot in those first 3 weeks after he was born. But the doctor wouldn't even let us bring him in so he could be tested, and wouldn't give him antibiotics without knowing for sure what it was. We kept calling until they gave us antibiotics for him. Sometimes you really have to get annoying here to get anything done. So that's what we're going to have to do, I guess.
 

Songbird76

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^^^^^Don't let her walk on it without a proper brace and if it gets any worse get her to the doctor. IMHO a walking boot would be best. Just adding I walked on a broken ankle for a couple of days once. Just because you can bear some weight doesn not mean it isn't broken
That's my worry. I googled it, and the mayo clinic website says if it hurts when you touch it, it's probably fractured, and I asked her if it hurt, she put a little pressure on it and winced. I'm not saying it IS fractured, but I think it should at least be looked at. And even if it IS just a sprain, the website also said some severe sprains require surgery, depending on the amount of damage, like if the ligament is actually torn. I don't feel like she should just be walking around without a brace or splint or something and I don't want her to injure it worse. I don't want her to find out next week that it needs treatment and she's made it worse by walking around the school all week, IF she even CAN walk on it.
 

StarWarsGirl

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In the Parks
No
Yeah, I'm taking her to the doctor tomorrow morning. When she first texted me that she twisted her ankle, I asked her if we needed to come "rescue" her, and she said she was fine. Her teacher helped her to a bench, but he never looked at it to see that it was so swollen. So I'm thinking that's why I didn't get called....she's stubborn and doesn't want to be a "burden" or to cause problems, so she didn't want to complain, but it's obviously worse than she thought it was when it first happened. When she got home and I actually saw it, I was shocked at how swollen it is. The swelling around in and around her toes has gone down, but it still looks like she has a tennis ball in the ankle and there's a big bulge on the top of her foot, too. So I'm just going to make her an appointment for tomorrow and not let them tell me she doesn't need to.

Could K walk when she broke the ankle? When E has been sitting for a while, it's hard for her to get back up and walk. She slides down the stairs on her rear and goes back up the same way so she doesn't put weight on the ankle. She's got a chair on wheels in her room, so that's how she's getting around upstairs. She CAN walk, but it really hurts, and I have a suspicion that it's going to be worse in the morning after she's been lying down all night. She's afraid she won't be able to sleep. We'll just have to see, but I'm like you....I just don't trust it, and the Dutch always try to do as little as possible when it comes to stuff like this. When A was only 3 weeks old, he was coughing up a storm and couldn't nurse. We found out my MIL had been exposed to whooping cough, and she had visited a lot in those first 3 weeks after he was born. But the doctor wouldn't even let us bring him in so he could be tested, and wouldn't give him antibiotics without knowing for sure what it was. We kept calling until they gave us antibiotics for him. Sometimes you really have to get annoying here to get anything done. So that's what we're going to have to do, I guess.
Can she bend it? Even if it hurts like hell and she can only bend it a bit, if she can bend it, it's probably not broken. Still, an x-ray can tell you if it's sitting properly in the joint.

Sprains can hurt worse than breaks. When I broke my finger, I didn't even notice because I sprained my knee at the same time, and the knee hurt way worse than the finger. It wasn't until I looked at the finger and saw it was swollen up like a balloon that I even knew there was a problem.
 

Figgy1

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That's my worry. I googled it, and the mayo clinic website says if it hurts when you touch it, it's probably fractured, and I asked her if it hurt, she put a little pressure on it and winced. I'm not saying it IS fractured, but I think it should at least be looked at. And even if it IS just a sprain, the website also said some severe sprains require surgery, depending on the amount of damage, like if the ligament is actually torn. I don't feel like she should just be walking around without a brace or splint or something and I don't want her to injure it worse. I don't want her to find out next week that it needs treatment and she's made it worse by walking around the school all week, IF she even CAN walk on it.
If you have a tuning fork that may help determine if it's broken or not
 

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