Is that what makes the monorails stink?When the "uninformed public" makes a stink, maybe something will happen.
I don't want to steal someone else's pictures, but on this site you can see photos from 1991 when a work tractor and monorail collided during a film shoot. A surprising amount of damage for what was likely a minor fender bender as they were probably both moving and in the same direction. If this was stationary being hit by a moving one the damage is likely worse. From this though we can see just how easily the cosmetic shell of these trains shatter.
http://www.bigfloridacountry.com/monorailaccidents.htm
Cab from teal is being swapped onto lime tomorrow night.. it will then enter the paint shop.. and be re striped as lime.. teal with then be repaired at a flower pace... There is some morbid irony to the whole thing.... The cab being moved to lime will be one its 3rd train in 5 years....
I've never seen the pink/purple monorail accident photos and I kinda wish I hadn't clicked that link.
That's a helluva lot of damage. Holy crap.
Thanks for reporting back to us what's going on.![]()
I just tried the link...tells me it's no longer available...
I just tried the link...tells me it's no longer available...
Still working for me.Oooohhhh, that's interesting. It's not up now. It was just a few hours ago!
Do you have a source or citation for that? Not doubting you, I just think that would be an interesting read.
Given what is being reported here (none of which is official), we can assume that Monorail Lime will get patched up fairly quickly and guests will be none the wiser. And aside from Jason reading about it here, it shouldn't make the news (especially when there is no photographic proof of the accident - at least by the public).
This, in my opinion, bears no correlation to how the rails are run. A work tractor was driven into an unloaded, parked monorail. Why? We don't know. But it was done outside the Operations of Monorails. An outside source hit a monorail, just like if a tow truck backed into your car while it was parked innocently in a parking lot.
I believe you have more to fear from your local subway system than Disney's monorails. Case in point: US DOT S&S division actively studied WDW's monorail system for months to use as a model to gauge city subways against.
I'm looking to download that and several other reports I worked on for them "back in the day". (I was not a part of the Disney research, I only heard what a great job it was from others who were) Have not found any of them yet, which really doesn't surprise me since their library of reports was huge it would have been a large undertaking to put them all into digital form. I'll try looking with another search engine later today. Google doesn't catch everything, and that DOT search engine is less than useless.
How many years ago?
Ah, back in the analog era, huh?
To late for that. It amazes me how little knowledge most people have about the subject, but, it doesn't stop them from condemning and entire operation because of what was probably operator error or just, sometimes it happens, mechanical failure.I believe that the brakes could fail on the tractor. Generally, those things stop on a dime. I'd be interested to see a picture. It's not the first time a tractor hit a train, either. Let's try not to blow this TOO much out of proportion.
There is nothing about this that would bring in OSHA. It's no different then any accident on the highway. Sometimes crap happens. With the Monorail system, factoring the number of miles that they put on a day, it amounts to writing on the head of a pin. It's that small.Does the State of Florida have its own state-level OSHA type agency or are they inspected by the federal OSHA?
It's hard to improve on a shut down, stationary object no matter how much one pays for it. A brand new monorail train would still have been a victim of this type of thing.Let's just buy new monorails... Make those equipped with the the automatic workings
Is that what makes the monorails stink?
To late for that. It amazes me how little knowledge most people have about the subject, but, it doesn't stop them from condemning and entire operation because of what was probably operator error or just, sometimes it happens, mechanical failure.
There is nothing about this that would bring in OSHA. It's no different then any accident on the highway. Sometimes crap happens. With the Monorail system, factoring the number of miles that they put on a day, it amounts to writing on the head of a pin. It's that small.
It's hard to improve on a shut down, stationary object no matter how much one pays for it. A brand new monorail train would still have been a victim of this type of thing.
An outside source hit a monorail, just like if a tow truck backed into your car while it was parked innocently in a parking lot.
Well the tractor was on the line which meant that it was part of the monorail operation and not an outside thing and just like any moving vehicle, short of tying it to the rail, is a free moving entity and only a safety hazard in the same sense that operating a one's car falls under. So yes, I made an assumption, but even if the brakes had failed it is a mechanical malfunction and not necessarily a general safety issue. OSHA would not be involved unless it showed gross negligence on the part of the company. I don't see how this falls into that category. As in, "I warned them about the brakes and they made me go out there on the rail anyway".I'm not visualizing what the "tractor" looks like nor can I see the area this took place, but if the tractor was worker operated loading equipment, it certainly could fall under OSHA's jurisdiction. You must have a better idea than I do about where this took place if you can state that with authority.
I think there could be an issue regarding the types of brakes. Unfortunately the Walt Disney World Monorail System was designed more for ideal conditions and I could see that sort of thinking impacting the brake design on the tractors.Well the tractor was on the line which meant that it was part of the monorail operation and not an outside thing and just like any moving vehicle, short of tying it to the rail, is a free moving entity and only a safety hazard in the same sense that operating a one's car falls under. So yes, I made an assumption, but even if the brakes had failed it is a mechanical malfunction and not necessarily a general safety issue. OSHA would not be involved unless it showed gross negligence on the part of the company. I don't see how this falls into that category. As in, "I warned them about the brakes and they made me go out there on the rail anyway".
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