ToTBellHop
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About 700.Do you know how many shells Wishes has?
I am a little disappointed that my trip starts a few days after the switch over and I won't get to see both.
About 700.Do you know how many shells Wishes has?
I am a little disappointed that my trip starts a few days after the switch over and I won't get to see both.
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That's literally a win-win situation. Cutting costs in a way that nobody notices is exactly the way they should be cutting costs (if this is, in fact, a cost cutting initiative, which we've seen no evidence of whatsoever.)
Who cares? Of course it's PR. That's what PR is. The PR has literally nothing to do with the show quality. If Disney announced they were cutting prices by 10% and building a villains gate, you'd complain about it because they announced it to the mommy bloggers and used carefully selected language.If you don't think that press release was written to subtly push their agenda, we should have a chat about how PR works.
Also that this was all released around the Mommy Bloggers being wined and dined.
All this is calculated. Hence the calculated response.
Gaga has them.What happened to the drones?
Happily Ever After will be a nice length at 18 minutes. While it will likely rely alot on projections for that length of a show, they also still do refer to it as a "fireworks spectacular"
From: https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/entertainment/magic-kingdom/happily-ever-after-fireworks/
Gather ‘round Cinderella Castle for an awe-inspiring show that’s sure to surprise and delight.
The Stories
Happily Ever After starts with a dream… and takes you on an unforgettable journey that captures the heart, humor and heroism of many favorite Disney animated films, including:
Come experience the magic of these beloved movies firsthand—and be inspired to find your own happily ever after.
- Aladdin
- Beauty and the Beast
- Frozen
- The Lion King
- The Little Mermaid
- Moana
- Peter Pan
- The Princess and the Frog
- Toy Story
Show Features & Special Effects
This 18-minute show features more lasers, lights and projections than any other fireworks spectacular in the history of Magic Kingdom park!
Throughout Happily Ever After, you’ll witness the many transformations of Cinderella Castle as it becomes a part of popular Disney stories—and is brought to life by:
It all comes together in a dazzling way—for a fantastical finale to your day at Magic Kingdom park.
- Awe-inspiring fireworks and rooftop pyro
- Supportive state-of-the-art projections
- Brilliant lasers and immersive lighting
- A stirring score featuring contemporary versions of popular Disney songs
Well at opening, Reflections of Earth had 1105 firework shells. Wishes had 683. Over the years those have varied, but RoE certainly isn't pyro light.IllumiNations has very little fireworks and I've always preferred it to Wishes.
Yes. Because the people who do notice and complain are going to complain about something no matter what, as you're demonstrating full well right now.The casual guest also doesn't notice the yeti doesn't move, yet that's infurating to hundreds on this site. Does it make it a good cost cutting move that they haven't fixed it then, since the casual guest won't notice?
They have not given us many reasons to be optimistic in recent years. Just because something is "New" does not make it better. I think that point is being proven very well by what's happening at DCA's Tower of Terror.My goodness you guys are miserable. We just got a major new show announced and everyone's reaction is "blah I bet it'll suck and be cheap and watered down. Classic TDO."
No, not classic TDO. Classic WDWMagic.
I'm not a pyro / show expert. I just mean, as a viewer, IllumiNations doesn't "feel" like a fireworks show. It feels like a "nighttime spectacular that also has fireworks." Wishes feels like a fireworks show, period. I wasn't commenting on the number of shells.Well at opening, Reflections of Earth had 1105 firework shells. Wishes had 683. Over the years those have varied, but RoE certainly isn't pyro light.
My goodness you guys are miserable. We just got a major new show announced and everyone's reaction is "blah I bet it'll suck and be cheap and watered down. Classic TDO."
No, not classic TDO. Classic WDWMagic.
Happily Ever After will be a nice length at 18 minutes. While it will likely rely alot on projections for that length of a show, they also still do refer to it as a "fireworks spectacular"
From: https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/entertainment/magic-kingdom/happily-ever-after-fireworks/
Gather ‘round Cinderella Castle for an awe-inspiring show that’s sure to surprise and delight.
The Stories
Happily Ever After starts with a dream… and takes you on an unforgettable journey that captures the heart, humor and heroism of many favorite Disney animated films, including:
Come experience the magic of these beloved movies firsthand—and be inspired to find your own happily ever after.
- Aladdin
- Beauty and the Beast
- Frozen
- The Lion King
- The Little Mermaid
- Moana
- Peter Pan
- The Princess and the Frog
- Toy Story
Show Features & Special Effects
This 18-minute show features more lasers, lights and projections than any other fireworks spectacular in the history of Magic Kingdom park!
Throughout Happily Ever After, you’ll witness the many transformations of Cinderella Castle as it becomes a part of popular Disney stories—and is brought to life by:
It all comes together in a dazzling way—for a fantastical finale to your day at Magic Kingdom park.
- Awe-inspiring fireworks and rooftop pyro
- Supportive state-of-the-art projections
- Brilliant lasers and immersive lighting
- A stirring score featuring contemporary versions of popular Disney songs
Wishes feels like a fireworks show, period....
That doesn't mean it HAS TO be that way. Please google "cognitive dissonance." People complain that nothing ever changes at WDW. Then they complain about every single change that does happen just because things won't be exactly as they were before.And there is the point.........
That doesn't mean it HAS TO be that way. Please google "cognitive dissonance." People complain that nothing ever changes at WDW. Then they complain about every single change that does happen just because things won't be exactly as they were before.
But the soundtrack is going to be a very tough act to follow.It's 17 years old. Even more overdue for a major overhaul. It's hard to see the projections on the globe. It definitely needs an update.
It's better than Disney Park.(And I hate the term "Magic Kingdom Park")
Who cares? Of course it's PR. That's what PR is. The PR has literally nothing to do with the show quality. If Disney announced they were cutting prices by 10% and building a villains gate, you'd complain about it because they announced it to the mommy bloggers and used carefully selected language.
It's funny, but the thing that made me cringe most of all (more than even the hints at fewer fireworks in favor of projections and lasers) about that PR statement earlier was "contemporary versions of classic Disney songs". I hope to god that doesn't mean pop, rap, hiphop, rock etc. Keep those songs in a classical style, especially given the setting you're performing the music in...
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