Wish (Walt Disney Animation - November 2023)

Chi84

Premium Member
As for this thread, I have been on holiday so, yes, I have not been posting.

I admit it’s sure looking like I was totally wrong about Wish. It’s too bad. I was rooting for Wish to do well because TWDC badly needed the win here. It’s too bad. I am always willing to admit when I am wrong.

I was kicked off the Disney at the box office thread. I have no idea why. My guess is that I was giving out too many trophies. Folks are randomly kicked off of threads with no explanation. The mods are totally within their power to kick folks off but it would be helpful to know why so as not to repeat what I did. No big deal, there are plenty of interesting threads I have not (yet) been kicked off of so that I may participate in the discussions.
According to the TOS, you can send a PM to a moderator and they will explain. I doubt they’re kicking people out randomly.
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
It's a terribly lowball number, that's all. But let's go with it. That means Elemental made a profit of $13 Million for Disney.

And Disney missed out on $37 Million in compounding bank interest if they had just put that $200 Million for Elemental into a savings account back in 2018 instead.

Ya, Theatrically. Don’t make me reopen the can of worms. 😂

At the end of the day Elemental is probably around a positive net 100-150 million already this year.
 

Animaniac93-98

Well-Known Member
I don't think anyone, even the most pessimistic of us, expected the opening financial and critical reception to be this bad.

Years later there will likely be a reevaluation where people question what about this particular movie caused such a reaction, and look at it in a kinder light, but for right now this is an abject failure. No ifs, ands or Valentino butts about it.
 

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
According to the TOS, you can send a PM to a moderator and they will explain. I doubt they’re kicking people out randomly.
Yes, I used wrong word. I am sure they have their reasons. Let me say it “feels random” when they is no explanation. No big deal. With every day there are new discussions to participate in.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

Well-Known Member
I don't think anyone, even the most pessimistic of us, expected the opening financial and critical reception to be this bad.

Years later there will likely be a reevaluation where people question what about this particular movie caused such a reaction, and look at it in a kinder light, but for right now this is an abject failure. No ifs, ands or Valentino butts about it.

Hopefully we’ll have another “renaissance” and these can become largely forgotten movies.

There will always be fans of movies like treasure planet, Atlantis, etc but most won’t reevaluate them, they’ll just forget they exist.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Oh, and this reference wasn’t intrusive or anything, but I found it shockingly bad when Star sprinkles Asha with pixie dust at the end and she does the whole “Cinderella dress transformation” animation and her dress doesn’t actually change. I can only assume she was meant to get a new sorceress outfit or something and they just ran out of time.
It was way too subtle, but her clothes became sparkly.
 

Farerb

Well-Known Member
So, now that Wish made less than $20 million this weekend (WOW!!!), what does that say for future Disney princess movies???
I think Disney should take a break from princess movies. They've made nine in the last 15 years, enough! They already have two Frozen movies planned.
 
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Vegas Disney Fan

Well-Known Member
I think Disney should take a break from princess movies. They've made nine in the last 15 years, enough! They already have two Frozen movies planned.
What would they make instead?

The MCU is on life support, Star Wars is on life support, the live action remakes are on life support, the few original movies they try (Tomorrowland, Haunted Mansion) don’t connect… they have nothing left.
 

Haymarket

Well-Known Member
What would they make instead?

The MCU is on life support, Star Wars is on life support, the live action remakes are on life support, the few original movies they try (Tomorrowland, Haunted Mansion) don’t connect… they have nothing left.
Maybe they need to buy something new and squeeze again. Bluey's Ludo Studio, Lionsgate, etc.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
I don't think anyone, even the most pessimistic of us, expected the opening financial and critical reception to be this bad.

Years later there will likely be a reevaluation where people question what about this particular movie caused such a reaction, and look at it in a kinder light, but for right now this is an abject failure. No ifs, ands or Valentino butts about it.

Agreed. There is no spinning this mega-budget bomb that got a lavish marketing campaign and the most number of theater slots and a failproof calendar position for the Thanksgiving Weekend holiday.

The weather was crisp and clear for 85%+ of the US population for the past few days, so you can't blame the weather. You can't blame Covid any more either. You could put some of the blame on the disastrous Disney+ strategy, but other than that.... you can only blame the product itself why the free market of 335 Million Americans ignored it in the marketplace.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
Maybe they need to buy something new and squeeze again. Bluey's Ludo Studio, Lionsgate, etc.

It makes you wonder what their strategy will be now.

I still think that Walt Disney Animation and Pixar Animation need to be merged and brought under one roof on the Burbank campus. Brand the different animated movies as either "Walt Disney" (musicals, Princesses, fairytales) or "Pixar" (contemporary stories, SciFi, non-musicals).

I just think their collapsing box office no longer justifies having two lavishly funded animation studios 400 miles apart.
 
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TP2000

Well-Known Member
Here's how Wish fared compared to the past five Thanksgiving Week debuts for big budget animation from Disney.

Wish is in 4th place, just above Strange World. Wish had a weaker opening weekend than Encanto in '21.

All numbers are adjusted for inflation to 2023 dollars.

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DisneyHead123

Well-Known Member
I think they should focus on smaller paid specials for D+. The pay-per-individual-content thing is going to have to happen anyways, they might as well rip the bandaid off. I’d love some new seasonal classics in the style of Merry Christmas Charlie Brown, but featuring the Fab 5, muppets, or even new characters. Kids today are going to the theater less and less, and I don’t see that trend reversing. Anecdotally, it seems to me that going to the movies isn’t a treat in and of itself for many kids, the way it was when I was young. Rather, it’s something you might talk them into if they already like the IP well enough. Theaters are cold, dark, loud, have overwhelmingly large screens… it’s a lot for little kids, especially when they have flatscreens at home. Smaller features they could really make into quality productions with a far smaller budget, and it would let them build popular IP for potential movies in the future.
 

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