Win or Lose (Pixar Disney+ series)

[BrianLo]

Just so everyone is a bit more clear, with how the show seems to be structured (each characters personal journey and I assume an episode after that they all seem to be ending on, the big game)… it’s more like a slice of the pie was taken out. Almost indiscernibly so, since we are just being served slices of pie so far.

The themes, structure, etc are all in tact. We’ll just never get one characters journey. I don’t even know who that character is so far.

I’m more left with “this is a shame” rather than feeling like the production is materially different. It’s in fact very similar to what I was presented in 2023.

I acknowledge everyone is free to choose to approach engaging or not engaging. But I wish this never happened, because it is still delightful.

 

[Farerb]

The themes, structure, etc are all in tact. We’ll just never get one characters journey. I don’t even know who that character is so far.

 

[BrianLo]

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I meant it more rhetorically than asking who it was, but this character does get some screen time and dialogue in episode one. I assume their episode was cut looking at the promotional material.

Episode one was top left yellow and then blue.

 

[Hawkeye_2018]

It's alright. It's definitely something a little different for Pixar. I'll keep tuning in.

 

[LittleBuford]

I meant it more rhetorically than asking who it was, but this character does get some screen time and dialogue in episode one. I assume their episode was cut looking at the promotional material.

Episode one was top left yellow and then blue.

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From what I can tell, the episode focusing on the character hasn’t been cut; it’s the references to her trans identity that have been removed.

 

[BrianLo]

From what I can tell, the episode focusing on the character hasn’t been cut; it’s the references to her trans identity that have been removed.

That makes sense. I’ll certainly let you know then when we come around to them how it’s been manhandled.

 

[LittleBuford]

For anyone interested, this is how the character was conceived in 2021:



It’s amazing what difference a few years can make.

 

[DKampy]

My contribution is commenting here as a Disney and Pixar fan that the show will be better without the theme the show was originally going to address. Good on Disney for doing the right thing and getting rid of the unnecessary distraction.

Do you know that it’s better…. Have you watched the show…. I feel like you are just trolling up trouble… the only time I see you comment in these threads is when representation is being discussed

I will not watch the show…. I feel they are stifling the creatives involved and taking society backwards…. I believe the difference is I have not seen anyone cirque the series that has not seen it..,, the issue people have is when certain posters will criticize what is in the content without watching

 

[BrianLo]

For anyone interested, this is how the character was conceived in 2021:



It’s amazing what difference a few years can make.

Not only did I not know who the character was, she’s just presented as a girl. I guess that’s less morally terrible than reverting the character to male, at least.

Every character has a hook that they are anxious about (first one was living up to dad, who is also the coach, who is also basically Ted Lasso, so super accepting to the audience… but the character is absolutely terrible at baseball). The second is the umpire who has shut himself off to criticisms (because he is always making tough calls, is also the kids teacher, but has also shut himself off to love in the process). Character one manifests a talking sweat blob and character two is wearing his armor all the time.

So I’m curious, because I think the original story wouldn’t have been a minor blink and you miss it thing. But actually would have been proper representation.

 

[easyrowrdw]

For anyone interested, this is how the character was conceived in 2021:



It’s amazing what difference a few years can make.

Oh yeah! I think I remember reading that. I wonder if the storyline would have remained the same if the show had been released in 2023 like originally planned. Or if Lightyear and Strange World hadn’t bombed. Or if Disney hadn’t been in the crosshairs of some politicians. Or if…

Like you said, a few years can make a big difference.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

Seeing the politicizing of that now defunct casting call, its good to see Disney made the right decision in removing the content. The mouse has made a ton of errors in recent years, but maybe this is a glimmer of hope.

Perhaps I will watch this knowing they made an effort to focus on storytelling.

 

[mickEblu]

Seeing the politicizing of that now defunct casting call, its good to see Disney made the right decision in removing the content. The mouse has made a ton of errors in recent years, but maybe this is a glimmer of hope.

Perhaps I will watch this knowing they made an effort to focus on storytelling.

Defunct casting call? Do tell.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

You probably have the user blocked. They shared a 2021 casting call for the character posted on a transgender protest twitter.

 

[mickEblu]

You probably have the user blocked. They shared a 2021 casting call for the character posted on a transgender protest twitter.

I don’t have anyone blocked. I probably just missed it… or forgot.

 

[LittleBuford]

You probably have the user blocked. They shared a 2021 casting call for the character posted on a transgender protest twitter.

Why would he have me blocked?

I’m a he, by the way.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

It's the twitter post from 9a this morning.

 

[LittleBuford]

Seeing the politicizing of that now defunct casting call, its good to see Disney made the right decision in removing the content. The mouse has made a ton of errors in recent years, but maybe this is a glimmer of hope.

Perhaps I will watch this knowing they made an effort to focus on storytelling.

Why do you think suppressing part of the character’s identity would make for better storytelling?

 

[LittleBuford]

For anyone interested, this is how the character was conceived in 2021:



It’s amazing what difference a few years can make.

@mickEblu, here it is.

 

[LittleBuford]

A shoutout to @easyrowrdw, by the way, whose opinions I know differ significantly from mine, but who has always been sincere and civil throughout our interactions.

 

[mickEblu]

@mickEblu, here it is.

Thanks!