Will Carousel of Progress remain open after Stitch opens?

grandmath

Active Member
Original Poster
I truly hope so! First (and last) time I saw it was in 2001. It was always closed for my next visits. :( I really want to see it at least one more time, any chance that it will remain permanently open once Stitch opens, due to popular demand?

(I always visit in low season ie September for example so I don't know...)
 

General Grizz

New Member
Originally posted by se8472
The thing is CoP is not THAT popular

From what I have witnessed and seen, it's doing remarkably well attendance-wise. What draws most visitors to think it's empty is the lack of people outside the pavilion. Keep in mind that the theatre loads and unloads every five minutes. So because there's no one standing out at one period means that the show just loaded. . . and it will take five minutes to gather another crowd up. And once someone goes up there, and others KNOW that people are going in, the line fills up, and the entire group is emptied in within a few minutes.

Also, there are six theaters in the attraction. This means that, while one theater may be half full at one point of the day, that is just the audience per five minutes. Take each group in all six theaters by five minutes, and that's your better estimate. During peak times in the day (after the attractions with heavy lines are filled up), CoP gets the bulk of its crowds.

Now, to keep people consistently entering the theater would be such a challenge. The system is flawed in that people (1) aren't attracted to the pavilion because it's in the corner of Tomorrowland and (2) because the constant entry/exit rate doesn't pick crowds up until "initiators" upon a newly loaded ride with an empty queue attract other guests to see that, "Okay, this IS an attraction." Compare this to Country Bear Jamboree, which has a clearly VISIBLE guests based on a *20 minute* wait, versus a 5-minute load wait.

Outside of that, CoP is still doing great, according to guest tallies. Remember that CoP was put seasonal after 9-11, when the entire PARK was empty.

Disney did the right thing in opening it up. Their next job is to refurbish the attraction, and add the "wow" factor of better animatronics.

Thus, if Disney is willing to invest in "The only attraction Walt told his Imagineers to keep," their strength in preservation of classic nostalgia and heritage will see through.

Otherwise, if Disney decides to keep CoP seasonal and breaking down, their management better be replaced before they go to the point of putting "Traditions" down to a few hours or putting rap music in Adventureland or putting "I'm Hott" bumper stickers in Tomorrowland shops, or having bad maintence so Big Thunder crashes, or. . .

Oh wait. All of this already happened.
 

Expo_Seeker40

Well-Known Member
That's what the pros and cons of the carousel is. It has multiple theaters, that revolve every so often, and you can get in the theater within 7 minutes. Each theater sits over 200 people. I think what also helps draw attention to the the carousel, and something I saw when I went, was that you can watch the walls of the carousel rotate. That's sucks people right over to it, versus standing in standby line for buzz lgihtyear for an hour.

I've "blahed" about it before, and Grizz is right, "Now is the Time"

;) for WDI to give the ride not just a tiny facelift, but a MAJOR facelift. The theaters need to be better kept, new animatronics, hopefully resembling what the physical features of the originals looked like, and maybe bringing back the full band and orchestra soundtrack. I guess I would call this the "glorifying" process.

It has been suggested not only by myself, but others, that the COP should have a new color scheme, and more appealing one. It originally had a green, and red color scheme way back at the fair, but that was only used as accent colors.

To keep with the opening and closing theater ,and four act's, versus my huge EPCOT pavilion proposal of 7 acts, then I would have act I be 1900, rather than 1880 or 1890. Then Act II 1920, Act III 1940, and Act IV 1960. A new intro in the pre show (not on tv screens, but in the theater) would explain a better history of the show, and why the carousel then ends on 1960, as for nostalgic peropses, that way the audience can see "yesterday's tomorrow", that fits in with "the tomorrow that never was", so the audience won't think the COP has been neglected to look outdated when it was done on purpose to end in 1960.

Ok just to settle this, many of you don't know what Christmas 1960 looked like in the COP. Here is a link to a 1964 World's Fair website that has a color slide of that act. It is slide number 9 as you scroll down.

http://nywf64.com/vm02.shtml
 

conntom

New Member
I was on COP this pass Dec 8 for the first time in three years
and it was great to see an old friend again I love this ride
I hope it will be open forever.





:sohappy:
 

CoraJack

Account Suspended
We rode last week and it was great. It was the first time my 13 year old son had the chance to see it. He loved it and wanted to go again. We had fun looking for all of the hidden Mickeys also.

Our theatre was almost full when we were there--it didn't seem to me as if there was a lack of interest.

But I agree that it's really not showcased outside as a ride. They need more signage.

Christina
 

goofy

Member
i actually think it could be well placed somewhere in Epcot

dont know why i think this when EPCOT is meant to be the city of tommorow - but then so is tomorrow land so i guess it dont fit in either.

Theres just something about it that makes me think it belongs in Epcot

who knows maybe am just going mad



:brick: :hammer: :veryconfu
 

Pumbas Nakasak

Heading for the great escape.
The cynic in me still feels that new habits die hard and first chance this attraction will be closed again to add a few more dollars to the bottom line.
 

Punkss

New Member
Sorry guys but for a real disney amateur, whaats the ride (though i gues its more of a show!) all about and what happens?
 

SirNim

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by Punkss
Sorry guys but for a real disney amateur, whaats the ride (though i gues its more of a show!) all about and what happens?
http://www.carouselofprogress.com/

:lookaroun

It's about the progress of a typical American family through the 1900s... A real inspiring show, albeit a tad dated... :) A wonderful song too...
 

Disnycrazy

New Member
When my husband and I were at WDW this last Novemebr we went on Carousel of Progress, and we both loved it. I had been a long time since I was on this and my husband had never expierenced it. I would really love to see this remain open on a full time basis and not just seasonal. Carousel of Progress is the best.
 

Sloan

Well-Known Member
CoP

I try to visit the CoP every time I go to the Magic Kingdom, as some of my strongest childhood memories of Dinsey World go back to this attraction. (My first visit was soon after the park had opened). I think CoP really captures some of the 'Disney Spirit', and, as stated by others, is a true classic. It should be open full-time, but I certainly agree that it could use some refurb.

My wife, who had never been to Disney World (from BA, Argentina) instantly loved the Carousel, and often sings the theme song when we're feeling Disney deprived (often). Of course, she's now a Disney devotee (I proposed at EPCOT during Illuminations on about our 4th or 5th trip) and also loves CoP. I can't imagine the park without it.
 

hoppypooh

Member
I would disagree about them being a "typical American family."
I think the charm of COP lies in that it's an idealized look at an American family. (I mean if they made a ride about my family it would look more like a Jerry Springer episode.) :rolleyes:
 

Langdonj

Member
If only this could help

I agree that this classic should remain open all the time. I would ride it faithfully, and I wouldn't have posted, since I have nothing new to add, but for the hope that if we keep posting messages like this, perhaps someone will read these posts and gather some insight. I understand that these views are only from a dedicated few, and not a "science" based focus group, but isn't it possible that the true future of Disney is dependent on nurturing passionate involvement from folks like those posted here (and without re-starting a common discussion) who love the special magic of this kind or dark "ride"?
 

sissa216

Well-Known Member
I love CoP, its one of my favs, and a nice getaway from the crowds. I think its a great show, and wish it was running more often. It's got a larger following than I would have imagined..it was always one of those attractions I always kind of overlooked, but recently grew to love.
 

DarkMeasures

New Member
Cop is always a fun ride to ride..... but last time I rode it I couldn't figure out how to turn off my cel-phone... and my parents kept on trying to call me the whole ride.... I had to muffle it....
 

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