Wild wild west, a real cliffhanger! Trip report

Songbird76

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July 30th

I know this was one of the days we walked to the Bakers Bakery down the street. I think this was the second day, and we had to wait outside for quite a while because they were so full. When we finally got in, we went ahead and ordered pastries to go for our lunch along with the breakfast we'd eat there.

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This was our last day in South Dakota, and we had yet to see any bighorn sheep, which was the only thing A had really been looking forward to. We had gone to the Bighorn Sheep center thinking that was our best shot, and while they had lots of taxidermied ones, there were no live ones to be seen. We had also looked in Yellowstone and come up empty. We were getting anxious. A was NOT going to be happy if he didn't get to see his beloved sheep, and this was really our last shot. I remembered seeing herds of them in Custer State Park as a child, but I had not idea where to look. I remembered there was a specific place they liked to hang out, but I didn't know where it was. We looked at a map and figured out the Wildlife loop was a good bet. So that's where we headed. We had barely turned onto the loop when we encountered this.

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They were all across the road. I was actually relatively happy with this outcome. For one, we had hardly seen any wildlife on this trip, and had expected something like this in Yellowstone, but never encountered it. While we did see a herd of bison, they were not on the road and not close enough to get good pictures. Also, my husband was driving then and wouldn't stop for us to get pictures. Here, we had no choice but to stop, because hello bison in the road! Can't really run them over. I was driving, and the jam also gave me the opportunity to take pictures, since we weren't going anywhere soon.

All pictures were taken from inside the car with the windows rolled up. I did let my husband roll down the window enough to stick his camera through to get some pictures, but as soon as there was a bison moving giving signals that he wasn't a happy camper, the window went back up. He did get a great video of a bison bashing his head against a tree, and you can hear in the background the bison who was not happy and was grunting and mooing, which is basically their way of saying "Back off, bucko!" While we couldn't really GO anywhere, we were at least pretty safe in the car. And there were enough idiots getting out of their cars to get closer pics that we wouldn't have been the targets. We weren't the ones he was mad at.

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That last one was one my husband took. It was RIGHT by my window. Poor A was scared to death...we've always said not to get too close to wildlife, and he's seen the videos of bison throwing people who got to close. But we reassured him that as long as we stayed in the car with the windows rolled up, he was ok, and these bison are used to the traffic on the roads. While they WILL get angry if you approach them, since we're in the car standing still and he's approaching US, he likely doesn't see us as a threat. He's just curious. And then came a big park vehicle with a huge grill guard on it and he came bison busting. As soon as it drove up, the bison dispersed, apparently used to these vehicles and knowing what it meant.

We were able to drive on after that and we came to visitors center where there was a really funny ranger we talked to about where to find the bighorn sheep. We also mentioned getting stuck behind the bison, which took like an hour to get past. He said that for some reason it had been really bad the last couple of days, and traffic was backed up even outside of the park on the highway and the police had called them and asked them to do something about the bison so traffic could move again. That's when they send out the big truck we saw. So we were right...the bison are familiar with that vehicle and know they need to move off the road.

In the visitors center
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Songbird76

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July 30th continued....

The ranger said the day before, the bighorn sheep were hanging out at the Calvin Coolidge area of the park, and we could try that. That turned out to be the area I remember always seeing them as a kid. I recognized it as soon as we pulled up there, but there were none to be seen. Right near there is an information center. We pulled in to ask if they knew where the bighorn sheep were. It was lunchtime, so we sat and ate our pastries at a picnic table there. It's a really pretty area.

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Then we got back in the car and drove back...I think we were driving back the way we came and I'm pretty sure we were almost back to the calvin coolidge campground when we saw a couple of cars pulled over, and sure enough, there they were. Good thing I was driving, because my husband doesn't like to stop, though he MIGHT have made an exception this time under the circumstances. But I pulled over and they jumped out to get pictures. (Not close enough to be dangerous. We watched a fawn run across the road. I'm glad I ended up parking and getting out because my husband didn't take any pictures. He was taking a video, and he didn't zoom, so my pictures are the only ones you can see them in.

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They aren't the BEST picures because I had to zoom in to get them, and then the quality isn't as good. But at least A got to see them, and I have some pictures to prove it! I was so happy! We had tried so hard and I really didn't want to leave without having seen them and this was really our last shot. We were on our way to the park exit because we had a date!
 

Songbird76

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July 30th continued...

I had been trying to connect with Melissa since we got into South Dakota, but it hadn't worked out. She was in the process of building a house, and there were some issues with the builders that she had to take care of. FINALLY she had some time, so we drove back to Spearfish. She and her partner also have vacation homes in the area to rent, and someone had just checked out that morning, so we went there to hang out with them for the afternoon, and then headed to Olive garden for dinner with them. I was a little nervous because my husband had been in a bad mood pretty much the entire trip and I was a bit anxious, hoping that he wouldn't be grouchy in front of other people at least. But it was fine. He got along really well with Charlie, both having similar "dad joke" personalities. Melissa had apparently needlessly given Charlie a warning that he'd better watch his mouth and not say anything embarassing or swear, and then we were all laughing and joking and it was just really an easy, relaxed atmosphere. Melissa's daughter is also just a year or so younger than E, and they got along really well and were fast friends.

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The food:

My Tour of Italy? I think that's what it's called. And my husband had some sort of pasta with shrimp, and E ordered something with chicken...maybe just alfredo?
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I remember ordering dessert, but I don't have a picture. What I DO remember is that I was really full, and I shouldn't really have a lot of it anyway, and Paige had declined to get dessert, but then when she saw mine, she was really regretting it, so we shared. It worked out great for both of us!

After hitting a McDonalds for A, we headed back to our hotel for the night. It had been a GREAT day. One of the highlights of the trip, having found the bighorn sheep, been stopped in a bison jam, and then getting to see Melissa and her family...I hadn't seen Paigey since she was 3 or 4. She's turned into such a beautiful young lady, and I was so glad to get to see her again. She had an incident last year where she passed out while trying on prom dresses, and hit her head a few times when she fell and got a really bad concussion. She spent a year undergoing treatment and eventually had to travel to a specialist in Montana to finally get back to normal and stop getting migraines. So it was really nice to spend time with them, and we got to see their unfinished house, with a gorgeous location.
 

JenniferS

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July 30th continued...

I had been trying to connect with Melissa since we got into South Dakota, but it hadn't worked out. She was in the process of building a house, and there were some issues with the builders that she had to take care of. FINALLY she had some time, so we drove back to Spearfish. She and her partner also have vacation homes in the area to rent, and someone had just checked out that morning, so we went there to hang out with them for the afternoon, and then headed to Olive garden for dinner with them. I was a little nervous because my husband had been in a bad mood pretty much the entire trip and I was a bit anxious, hoping that he wouldn't be grouchy in front of other people at least. But it was fine. He got along really well with Charlie, both having similar "dad joke" personalities. Melissa had apparently needlessly given Charlie a warning that he'd better watch his mouth and not say anything embarassing or swear, and then we were all laughing and joking and it was just really an easy, relaxed atmosphere. Melissa's daughter is also just a year or so younger than E, and they got along really well and were fast friends.

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The food:

My Tour of Italy? I think that's what it's called. And my husband had some sort of pasta with shrimp, and E ordered something with chicken...maybe just alfredo?
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I remember ordering dessert, but I don't have a picture. What I DO remember is that I was really full, and I shouldn't really have a lot of it anyway, and Paige had declined to get dessert, but then when she saw mine, she was really regretting it, so we shared. It worked out great for both of us!

After hitting a McDonalds for A, we headed back to our hotel for the night. It had been a GREAT day. One of the highlights of the trip, having found the bighorn sheep, been stopped in a bison jam, and then getting to see Melissa and her family...I hadn't seen Paigey since she was 3 or 4. She's turned into such a beautiful young lady, and I was so glad to get to see her again. She had an incident last year where she passed out while trying on prom dresses, and hit her head a few times when she fell and got a really bad concussion. She spent a year undergoing treatment and eventually had to travel to a specialist in Montana to finally get back to normal and stop getting migraines. So it was really nice to spend time with them, and we got to see their unfinished house, with a gorgeous location.
Yes, that’s the Tour of Italy. As you know, we love us some OG. We almost always go there when we’re in the States.

I’m so glad you got to see the bighorn sheep; and those bison are terrifying! We have lots of moose in Canada and they are massive! Nothing compared to bison though, according to Google:

“Bison are larger than moose in most measures. Moose top out at 1,500lbs but bison can weigh up to 3,000lbs or more. Moose can stand 6.9ft at the shoulder and grow to a length of 10ft, but bison can reach a total height of 11ft when counting their hump.”

You are far more likely to be killed by a moose though, most likely in a car vs moose mishap.

Again from Google:

Canada saw 236 deaths from moose accidents, (123 from deer, and 6 from elk) from 2000-2014.

“Despite their physical fearsomeness, injuries from bison encounters are generally rare. Fifty-six people were injured and two died from bison attack in Yellowstone between 1978 and 1992, while another 25 were injured between 2000 and 2015.”
 

Songbird76

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Yes, that’s the Tour of Italy. As you know, we love us some OG. We almost always go there when we’re in the States.

I’m so glad you got to see the bighorn sheep; and those bison are terrifying! We have lots of moose in Canada and they are massive! Nothing compared to bison though, according to Google:

“Bison are larger than moose in most measures. Moose top out at 1,500lbs but bison can weigh up to 3,000lbs or more. Moose can stand 6.9ft at the shoulder and grow to a length of 10ft, but bison can reach a total height of 11ft when counting their hump.”

You are far more likely to be killed by a moose though, most likely in a car vs moose mishap.

Again from Google:

Canada saw 236 deaths from moose accidents, (123 from deer, and 6 from elk) from 2000-2014.

“Despite their physical fearsomeness, injuries from bison encounters are generally rare. Fifty-six people were injured and two died from bison attack in Yellowstone between 1978 and 1992, while another 25 were injured between 2000 and 2015.”
Bison are pretty massive. I grew up across the road from one of the largest bison ranches in the US. I could look out my bedroom window and see them in the distance. So I'm used to them, but the kids aren't. And we've definitely impressed upon them how dangerous they can be. And I bought the "Do not take selfies with the fluffy cows" t-shirt. They know not to get too close.
 

Songbird76

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July 31st

Here's where I pulled a stupid. This was a travel day, from South Dakota to Laramie, where my brother lives. Laramie is a beautiful area with lots to see and do. With the University right there, there are a lot of educational and cultural opportunities. I went to college there, and there are things I still miss there.

After our wonderful day the day before, we checked out of our hotel and headed South, prepared for a long day in the car. Except, I forgot one of the things I was looking forward to the most on the trip, that was on the way. We were in such a good mood and looking forward to all the things in Laramie, and no one else was paying attention to the schedule. It was down to me to tell them where we were going and what we were doing each day. I don't mind the planning so much....I'm a planner. But it DOES get frustrating that no one else seems invested and it's all on my shoulders. (Well, E did help with some of the research and decision making, but not the itinerary) If someone doesn't enjoy something, I feel like it's my fault for picking it. And likewise, if we MISS something, that's my fault as well. But without someone else checking in and being able to say "Hey, I thought we were doing this today" it's easy for one person to accidentally miss something. It would have been nice to have a co-pilot of sorts. But I didn't. And we got in the car and set the GPS for Laramie instead of FORT Laramie. Fort Laramie is a lot like Fort Caspar, but with a lot more to see, and if I remember correctly, they actually have things open, like the Saloon, so you can buy old fashioned Sarsparilla and maybe beef Jerky, etc? It's a bit more comprehensive than Fort Caspar, though we HAD gotten a lot out of Fort Caspar because of the fair that day with the tents set up to play games and whatnot. So I'm doubly glad we were surprised with the open house at Fort Caspar, because otherwise we would have really missed a lot more by not going to Fort Laramie. I didn't realize our mistake until a day or 2 later, and then I felt STUPID. It was too late to go back and A was museumed out and didn't really want to do ANYTHING, and my husband was still (or back) in his bad mood and was somewhat avoiding spending time with me. He used A as an excuse to stay at the hotel when A is perfectly capable of staying by himself for a while, but I also got the sense that my husband was resenting me going places without him. So I'm not sure what he wanted...he didn't seem to want to spend time with me, but also didn't want to be stuck at the hotel with nothing to do. I ended up doing a lot of stuff just with my daughter, which was actually super fun. We make a great team and always have fun together. Sometimes I wonder if that's what bothers my husband? That maybe he feels left out, or maybe he's jealous that we are so close. We'd love to include him, but he doesn't have the same interests. He doesn't love Pride and Prejudice, or Bridgerton, and he doesn't like rewatching things the way we do, so he doesn't want to just sit with us while we watch Disney movies and sing along (he also can't sing), or recite all the dialogue in P&P. He doesn't like to go on walks like we do, looking at all the pretty houses and picking flowers to identify and dry once we're home. He doesn't like to bake, and our kitchen is too small for 3 even if he did, so he doesn't crank the show tunes and belt them out while we're in the kitchen. And when we're on vacation, I TRY to pick things I think we'll all enjoy, with a few specialty things thrown in for specific people, like the Bighorn Sheep Center for A. But my husband isn't into the history stuff like I am, and he's not into geology or astronomy like E, and while he finds the lakes and mountains pretty, once we've seen them, he's seen them and he doesn't necessarily need to go back. So on this trip, we had seen thermal pools and geysers galore in Yellowstone, we had seen wildlife in South Dakota, we had seen lots of history museums containing artifacts from the 19th and 20th century life in Wyoming. I think he was kind of done with it, but there were still things WE wanted to see that he didn't. So I think he was kind of surly because he was a bit bored, but also didn't like what we wanted to do. I don't know. If anyone has any insights, I'd love to hear them, because I just don't know how to get him out of that funk once he's in it, and it's kind of miserable for everyone.

If you've ever been to Wyoming, at least the East side, you know there's really not much there. This was the only picture I took on the way.
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We got to Laramie and headed for Days Inn, which would be home for the next week or so. We kept in touch with my brother throughout the day to plan when and where to get together. Our niece was SUPER excited for our arrival and couldn't wait to see us, so they had invited us for dinner. We had never been to their new house because we hadn't been "home" since they moved there. They went to Disney with us for a week in 2019 and had JUST bought a restaurant at that time. Since then, they also bought a new house out in the boonies, which I asked my BIL how he had managed to get my brother to agree to that, since my brother is NOT a country boy. We grew up on a ranch for the first few years of our lives, then moved into town when my parents divorced when I was 6. We had moved into Gillette for just a few months when I was 5, then back out to the ranch for a few more months, and then into town just before I started first grade. My brother didn't miss horse back riding, having been bucked off a couple of times. He and dad didn't really get along, and he wanted NOTHING to do with ranching. When dad died, we had to scramble to find a buyer for the cattle, and we were actually relatively lucky that he didn't want to ranch, because the coal company owned the land and had sent dad notice a few months before his death that he needed to vacate because they wanted to start digging there. So WHY did my brother agree to move 20 miles out of town to a ranch where they keep goats and chickens and have a hydroponic garden, etc? My BIL had always wanted some goats. They had a couple of chickens, and he had some bees, and he loves to garden and belongs to a gardening club in Laramie, but to have goats, you have to live outside city limits. My brother would be a hard sell. But he fell in love with the house. So BIL got his goats, and my brother lives like Eva Gabor. They call their home Queen Acres, and my BIL does all the ranch work because my brother flat out refuses to do anything that resembles ranching. He handles the social media for their restaurant instead. My BIL and his family cook at the restaurant. They all went in on it together. So they do the cooking and my brother does the marketing and books live entertainment like musicians for their outdoor stage.

They had given us directions to their house with landmarks and we STILL would have missed it if they hadn't been so specific about how many cattle guards we would cross. There's nothing distinctive and the turn off comes up out of nowhere. But we found it!!

Unfortunately, I forgot to take pictures outside. I DID, however take pictures of a couple of things that hold a lot of memories.

My mother's kitchen cabinet with some china on top. This originally belonged to either my grandma or one of her siblings...it's been in our house my whole life. When mom died, we made the decision to move here to the Netherlands, and didn't have room for this, so my brother got it. My BIL made a new curtain for it, and he lovingly refurbished it to a better condition. The cabinet stood in our living room, and my mom had an old rocking chair (which I have) and that was "her" spot. She sat there every day to watch TV or write letters, using the cutting board from the kitchen cabinet as a writing desk, placed across the arms of the rocking chair. I think the white counter top might slide back into the base of the cabinet? And that was one of the things my BIL fixed.

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My mom's (formerly grandma's) Singer sewing machine, which I thought was gone. When mom died, we were dividing her estate. My brother begged for the sewing machine and the china and such. I would have loved the sewing machine, but my aunt had given me hers. It's broken and doesn't open anymore, but I have it, and my brother said that since I already HAD one that I could potentially get fixed, HE should get mom's. Mom's actually works, and he sews his own costumes for his drag queen shows, etc. I reluctantly agreed because he was right....I COULD get the other fixed. It isn't quite as nice, and it's not a singer, but it's still pretty, just not as sentimental as I never used it or saw it being used. He also asked for all the chinaware my mother had, saying he didn't have any matching dishes and he loved to entertain, and since another aunt had given me a set of corelleware dishes as a wedding gift, HE should get my mother's dishes. Again, I reluctantly agreed. They were the dishes we used for every holiday meal and birthday and prom...all the silver service, crystal, and chinaware, he got. Which I feel stupid because some of the Crystal was actually supposed to go to me. Mom had given me a couple of pieces for our wedding and told me the rest of that set was mine, but I couldn't remember what pattern it was, and didn't have access to it when we were dividing stuff up, so all of it went to my brother. 2 weeks later, I went to a flea market in Laramie just for something to do, and there was my mother's sewing machine and all the china, silver, and crystal. He had begged for those things, saying how much he needed them and he should get them because I had things of my own, and then he had only wanted them so he could sell them. Thank goodness they apparently didn't sell, which shocks me....an antique Singer sewing machine like this I thought would be snapped up. And thank goodness for my BIL who sees them for more than just monetary value and put the work in to clean them up and actually give them a place in the house. I hope one day my niece will love them and keep them. I'm so glad they are still in the family.
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I don't even remember what we had for dinner that night....maybe soup? I remember having salads because we had to bring croutons since they were out. I remember going to a grocery store before we went there and picked up some sort of dessert, and picked up croutons. Maybe it was steak. Whatever it was, we had to get McDonald's for A before going because he won't eat most things and when we're on vacation, everyone gets to eat what they like. We don't force it.

It was just really nice to see them. My niece had gotten us presents, actually for Christmas, but she had saved them for us. It was so sweet. She had picked them out and used her own money to get them. I guess there was some sort of shop at school and the kids could do their shopping without their families seeing what they got them. She got me a bracelet.
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She got my husband a mug.

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She got E a water bottle sticker and some sort of slime, which I don't have pictures of, and E thinks A got a boxing pen, like the kind that has a button you press and it has arms that shoot out like a boxer when you press the button. She thinks he got something else, too, but doesn't remember what. Looking at this picture, maybe it was a toy dinosaur? This picture is my husband's and there's no date on it, so it might not even be from this day, but who knows.

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My niece and A are both into minecraft and such, so they were talking video games the whole time and having a blast.

Fun side notes, they have 2 dogs. Layla is a german shepard, I think. Sweetest dog ever! She's very mellow, gentle, and was a rescue they got who was apparently abused or something, so she's just happy to be in a loving home and getting some snuggles. Sassy...well, she lives up to her name. She's a little jerk! She's a dachsund and she is hyper and she will walk up to Layla, who's just chilling on the floor, and she'll start biting Layla's neck or paws, or scratching her. She was given a time out a couple of times for being mean to Layla.

The chickens are free range and they are not very nice to each other. I think they also maybe had some Turkeys? I know there was something about the chickens killing each other or the turkeys killing the chickens, or the chickens killing the turkeys...

E confirms that there were turkeys, because Nessa was sad that one of the turkeys had just died. My husband also had this gem:

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And yep, there are the turkeys.

We hung out for a while, got the girl scout cookies we had bought from Nessa, plus some extras they had left over, and made plans for E's work experience for school. Then we went back to the hotel and called it a night.
 

Songbird76

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Ok, so I went to my husband's facebook page and found some pictures Melissa took of the kids and posted, and I also looked back in whatsapp to the messages he was sending to his parents, and noticed I forgot that on the way to Laramie, we were on the highway somewhere and the side of the road was on fire.



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These are my husband's pictures, because I was driving. Anyway, I was paying close attention because it definitely looked recent and we hadn't seen any firetrucks or anything, and there were also no work vehicles to indicate a controlled burn. We got a little farther and there was a boat completely engulfed in flames. My husband thought he had a video, but apparently he didn't hit the button to record, so he missed it. A few dozen meters further, there was a camper with people all just standing there watching the boat burn. Don't know what happened, but I'm glad that the people were able to escape....how they got that boat free to let it burn without it spreading to the camper too is a mystery. They had to have pulled over, got the boat unhitched, and all jumped back in the camper and gone to a safe distance, and they must have done it FAST, because everything was still burning. And we heard the sirens from the emergency vehicles on the way, so we didn't have to call 911.

Here are the pics of the kids having fun together. I was so happy they got along.
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Songbird76

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August 1st

This day is going to be picture heavy. It's one of my favorite days. It's hard to choose which pictures to post. Between my husband and me, we have a ton of great ones.

We got up in the morning and drove up to Centennial to my brother's restaurant.

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At least I THINK that's what we did. It was mostly standard breakfast fare, but my BIL had made chili especially for my husband so he could have a breakfast burrito with chili. How amazing is my BIL??
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They have two parts to the restaurant. In the front is the breakfast dining room, and then in the back is the bar and the dining room for lunch and dinner. Out back, they have a bandstand for live music and such. It's a really cute place.IMG_1982.JPGIMG_1983.JPGIMG_1984.JPGIMG_1985.JPG292267134_10220950267562837_209087952832559507_n.jpgScreenshot 2023-02-26 165345.jpg

Those last two are not our pictures. I stole them from the restaurant's facebook page because I apparently didn't get any outside pictures in the back.
 

Songbird76

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August 1st, continued...

After breakfast, we continued up the road into the Snowy Range of mountains. This was a place I used to go during college when I needed a break. Sometimes we'd get a bucket of KFC and go up and picnic by Lake Marie, other times we'd just go get some fresh air. And there was a restaurant up there that had a meeting space where the audition-only choir would go each year for a team-building day with the new members, to get to know each other and to practice the music. We'd always end by going outside and singing among the trees, nature. Singing to the squirrels, I guess, but it was always a powerful experience. And Lake Marie is one of my favorite spots. I LOVE mountain lakes. So this is where there might be a picture overload coming up.

We start with the Libby Flats Observation area. I don't have a picture of the observation deck, so here's one I found with google.


There was a very excited dog up there, but I didn't want to take pictures of someone else's dog...I thought that might be kind of creepy. Looking down over the deck, we saw a marmot. I have pictures, but I don't remember where in the picture he is.

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I tried to do some Panorama shots, but there's a big set of binoculars on a plinth in the middle, so you can't stand in one spot and just turn around, you have to walk around this plinth. I got some real gems.
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Love the one with my son's floating head! Anyway, I got some better pictures without the panorama.

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Songbird76

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August 1st continued...

We picked up some rocks for E. She's into wire wrapping, and my D.A.R.E. officer friend had given her some real beauties. After our dinner with him, when he heard E liked wire wrapping, he said he had a surprise, and he had us follow him to the Police Station where there was a conference room we could use, and he brought in these boxes. He had made some bolo ties, and thought E would like to make some for the boys, but they had to disappoint him because bolo ties are not a thing here, and no one ever wears ties anyway. So he just gave E the stones to wrap, and then everywhere we went, she picked up pretty stones that she could turn into jewelry. We got some at a shop in Wall, and picked some up in my brother's back yard, and then more up in the snowies.

This one is her favorite. It's moss agate.
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He gave her some others, but I don't think she's wrapped those yet. But here are some of the stuff she made with the ones she got in South Dakota.

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So when we got home, she made these from rocks we found at the Libby flats.
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After Libby Flats, we continued on up the road, and visited a couple of lakes. Lake Marie and Mirror Lake. They seem to be connected and we had to climb down a hill to get to Mirror Lake, and then visited Lake Marie afterwards. So some of the pictures might be mixed up because they are right next to each other, separated by trees, but it's the same mountain, so I'm not sure which pictures are which.
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Songbird76

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August 1st continued...

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I'm reasonably certain all these were at mirror lake, because they were taken on my camera, not on my phone, and the camera keeps them in order and the next picture on there is the parking lot by Lake Marie, so these are all Mirror Lake. We spent a LOT of time just hiking around the lake and skipping stones.

We made our way back to the car and then drove just a few hundred meters further and stopped at Lake Marie. I went to the bathroom there as they had facilities, and while I was there, I heard what I thought sounded like a waterfall. I was going to have to explore after I took my pictures here.


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Songbird76

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August 1st, continued.....

Ok, my camera says I lied. I went to explore BEFORE I took pictures at Lake Marie. There's a path from the parking lot to the lake, and I have a picture of the path, then pictures across the road, and THEN more of the path and Lake Marie. So I went to explore first. I heard noise like a waterfall, coming from across the road and wanted to go check it out. There's a kind of drop off on the other side, and you can't see what's on that side until you are right next to it.

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So I crossed over...

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It was really loud now....but no waterfall here.

I look to my left.



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I got a little closer....

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You can see people down below to the right if you look at the last picture. The trail is narrow and takes you down to a bridge where you cross the creek and come back up on the waterfall side.

So now I had to go back and tell my husband and kids that there's a waterfall over on that side they need to see. A was done...he just wanted to sit in the car and play on his Nintendo Switch. He did not care about the waterfall. My husband was taking pictures and said he'd follow in a bit. So E and I crossed back over and we decided to hike down the little path. I am NOT very coordinated and there were some dicey places for me, but if I can do it, pretty much anyone can, and it was definitely worth it.

This is from down that path, looking back towards the road.

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Songbird76

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August 1st, continued...


I don't seem to have any close up pictures of the bridge, and my husband didn't either. Only from a distance.

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It wasn't like regular stairs. You had to climb up boulders to get onto the bridge, and there were a couple that were a bit loose and wobbly. I had a hard time with it, but I made it.
The last couple of pictures from the previous post were already on the other side of the bridge. The climb back up was pretty steep and I had to take a break halfway up to catch my breath. We med a retired couple and we were talking to the woman as we climbed while her husband took a much more vertical approach right next to the waterfall. I have NO idea how he made it up that ridge. His wife was like "Yeah...he's much more agile than I am. I'm going to stick to the trail."
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According to my camera, this is where we got back to Lake Marie.

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Songbird76

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I have a couple of pretty decent ones from my phone.

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Back to the camera.
I took this for @MinnieM123 , because I know how much she likes signs explaining what things are.
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I wish I could have gotten a nice picture without that guy in the blue sitting there. But he wasn't moving any time soon.
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Here is a panorama of Mirror Lake, I think? that my husband took.295768097_10159325602219671_8224068917604486902_n (1).jpg

Then we drove back down to the restaurant to pick up some tshirts. E would need one for working there, and I just wanted one because it's cool to have a tshirt for my brother's restaurant.
 

HouCuseChickie

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The sad part is that because that was the ONE hotel HE booked, I couldn't do a review for it, and I'm sure he didn't. It was a long night of little sleep, with a lot of noise from the people partying outside, very uncomfortable and tiny beds, and just a feeling of being unsafe in general.

I'm still catching up, but there are ways for you to leave a review even if you didn't book it. I just don't know if you have access to these options outside of the US. TripAdvisor and Google will let you review just about anything and both feed into a wide array of travel sites, which ensures your review reaches a wide audience.

I know we didn't have anything on Independence Rock in our studies, but I think some of what you're taught hinges on where you grew up. We moved to FL before my brother started 7th grade. He learned things in history about FL that I never had in my history lessons in NJ. Texas actually requires every kid to take at least one year of Texas history. For whatever reason, some people are shocked that other states don't require (or even offer) Texas history. I think all of the information is valuable and it's cool to learn all of these things about other states.

We did not have Oregon Trail!!! o_O I never even heard of it until my 30s. Someone made a joke about dying of dysentery and I was lost!

OK...back to catching up!

EDIT- Caught up! 🤣 I'm glad you were able to find bighorn sheep! I know driving among bison herds can be really unnerving. On our first trip to Yellowstone, we were informed that the bison look at vehicles as other members of the herd. Not that I want to drive super close to find out...plus that may be more true for the YNP herds. I suspect the ones in Custer moved because they associate that park vehicle with the annual round up and know to move. https://gfp.sd.gov/buffalo-roundup/

Loving all of the pics!
 
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Songbird76

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August 2nd.

I have NO idea what we did this day. We may have just made it a rest day? I had several things planned for Laramie, but most of it wasn't specific days. I'm going by the pictures on my phone, which has a folder for each day, so I can tell what we did by the pictures. The ones on the camera go in order, but aren't dated, and once I transfer the ones from my phone to my laptop, they don't stay in order. So I'm transferring entire folders all at once into a new folder on the computer so at least I have the days divided. But for this day, I have 3 pictures....all from the same restaurant. And it was the restaurant we went to without my husband and A. And the reason we went without my husband was that he was sick. So we must not have gone site seeing this day, but I must have done something with E. We probably went to Wally World (Wal-mart).

Restaurants have come and gone, so a lot of the things that used to be there, aren't anymore. Corona seemed to have caused several casualties. We had had issues finding a Village Inn, because most of them have closed down. There were only a couple left in Wyoming, none in South Dakota, and I believe maybe there was one in Denver. But the ones in Gillette and in Laramie were gone....no pie for us this day, I guess. Though I DO remember going to a Perkins to get pie with E at some point. Was it this day? I don't know. But I had asked my brother for recommendations since so many of the places I knew were gone and I didn't know whether new things were good. My brother had not been to this restaurant, but had heard good things. There was a new Indian restaurant in the old Chuckwagon restaurant. I had never been to the Chuckwagon, but we were game to try it. E and I had recently discovered and Indian and Pakistani street food vendor in Arnhem, that while limited in menu, we LOVED. They have a chicken curry that is PERFECT for cold weather days, and a wonderful garlic cheese naan. So we headed to Buffalo Indian.

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We ordered a chicken curry, a butter chicken, and Garlic naan. OMG we LOVED it....and butter chicken is our new favorite. We love it. We are going to Sanaa this summer just to get butter chicken. We've also tried making it ourselves and have found a relatively good version at our grocery store. We haven't tried to make it from scratch yet...it seems intimidating. But anyway, we LOVED this. My husband doesn't like the chicken curry from the street vendor because it's a green curry, and he only likes red. We ate our fill here and brought the rest back for him when he was feeling better. He loved it, too, once he was able to eat. I believe we went back with him a different day once he was feeling better.

Anyway, that's all I have for this day. No idea what else we did....probably sat by the pool for a bit? I just don't know.
 

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