Wikipedia's published list of "Incidents at Disney parks"

AEfx

Well-Known Member
My, you weren't kidding when you said "comprehensive" LOL.

Truth be told, especially since the majority of those are pre-existing conditions, it's surprising over the many decades of park history there hasn't been more fatalities.

AEfx
 

smk

Well-Known Member
This is a summary of notable incidents that have taken place at various Disney-owned theme parks, amusement parks, or water parks. The term "incidents" refers to major accidents, injuries, deaths, or significant crimes that occur at a Disney park. (wikipedia)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incidents_at_Disney_parks

The list appears to be quite comprehensive.

:lookaroun

Tk
Can't anyone go in and "edit" this site? How can you be sure the info presented on the site is accurate?
 

Timekeeper

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Can't anyone go in and "edit" this site? How can you be sure the info presented on the site is accurate?

Information usually includes a citation (in the form of a footnote/endnote) to a "credible" source. Information lacking such references are flagged by wikipedia - and presented as a warning to the viewer. It works a bit like a report/paper written at the collegiate level.

Tk
 

tigsmom

Well-Known Member
Can't anyone go in and "edit" this site? How can you be sure the info presented on the site is accurate?

Wiki is never the last word on anything. It can edited by anyone. I can go and put that Walt is still alive and living in the tunnels of WDW. :lol:
 

SWatsi

Member
Wiki is never the last word on anything. It can edited by anyone. I can go and put that Walt is still alive and living in the tunnels of WDW. :lol:

True, but that still isn't the end. It will quickly be changed back, and then someone else will try changing it again, and then the cycle starts over.

I like Wikipedia, but it is the devil. If you become involved with it the cycle WILL NEVER END! You will be fixing all the moron-edits all day and night in order to protect that one article.. :lookaroun
 

BrennaRN

New Member
That's pretty neat. Thanks for the link. I was in DHS when the boy in June 2006 died on Rock n Roller Coaster. It was quite a commotion around the studios that day. I was in the Stunt Spectacular and kept seeing helicopters and hearing sirens. I was terrified it was another 9/11 or something.
 

SpongeChampion

New Member
I've seen the list on Wikipedia before. I believe they say something about someone getting struck by another boat on Splash Mountain after feeling queasy on the ride and trying to get off. Of course, he died.
 

AEfx

Well-Known Member
True, but that still isn't the end. It will quickly be changed back, and then someone else will try changing it again, and then the cycle starts over.

Exactly, that is the true power of Wikipedia.

I agree, it shouldn't be cited in academic papers and such (same as you shouldn't ever use any encyclopedia as a reference after grade school LOL), but it is an invaluable resource who's true power is in the users.

Sure, you can go put on the MK page "Walt is frozen beneeth the removable turrets", but within minutes, maybe seconds, it will be corrected, plus you can view all the recent (and no-so-recent) changes to when it matters.

There have been several studies done, and they have concluded that Wikipedia is as good or better than standard print encyclopedias in terms of numbers of errors in entries.

And hey, where else can you look up a list of Hannah Montana episodes and airdates, the origins of the phrase "drawn and quartered" (don't eat lunch first), and explainations of even complex scientific information.

Not a day goes by I don't use Wikipedia, but like any resource, it needs to be taken for what it is. I've learned so much from that site it's scary.

AEfx
 

yankspy

Well-Known Member
Exactly, that is the true power of Wikipedia.

I agree, it shouldn't be cited in academic papers and such (same as you shouldn't ever use any encyclopedia as a reference after grade school LOL), but it is an invaluable resource who's true power is in the users.

Sure, you can go put on the MK page "Walt is frozen beneeth the removable turrets", but within minutes, maybe seconds, it will be corrected, plus you can view all the recent (and no-so-recent) changes to when it matters.

There have been several studies done, and they have concluded that Wikipedia is as good or better than standard print encyclopedias in terms of numbers of errors in entries.

And hey, where else can you look up a list of Hannah Montana episodes and airdates, the origins of the phrase "drawn and quartered" (don't eat lunch first), and explainations of even complex scientific information.

Not a day goes by I don't use Wikipedia, but like any resource, it needs to be taken for what it is. I've learned so much from that site it's scary.

AEfx
1. We were never allowed to use any encyclopedia or wikipedia in any research.

2. I am curious as to who did these studies?

I have to say, I grow tired of correcting people who quote wikipedia and it's ilk. It is annoying only because many people have a tendency to believe something just because it is in print. You have a nation of people who believe that you can see the Great Wall of China from the moon.:lol:

However, in Wikipedia's defense, I have found numerous errors in books as well.

Back to the topic, how come the international parks are missing?
 

MKCP 1985

Well-Known Member
most of the incidents in that story are well documented.

fortunately, you will never hear of most of the accidents causing injury that occur at the WDW parks.

I am surprised I didn't see reference to several other significant injuries, including one death, that are public record in the case law books (Southern Reporter) for appeals in the State of Florida. :lookaroun
 

bfbulldog

Member
Wikipedia is by no means a reliable or accurate portrayer of information. Anyone can go in anytime and say anything they want. Yes Wiki may discover lies and make a notation, but someone can just keep going back and adding completely false items. So take whatever information they have with a grain of salt. They are in no way an encyclopedia of verified information. In fact in the school district both middle and high school if a student cites wikipedia as a reference on a paper they are writing they are automatically given a failing grade.
 

MKCP 1985

Well-Known Member
Wikipedia is by no means a reliable or accurate portrayer of information. Anyone can go in anytime and say anything they want. Yes Wiki may discover lies and make a notation, but someone can just keep going back and adding completely false items. So take whatever information they have with a grain of salt. They are in no way an encyclopedia of verified information. In fact in the school district both middle and high school if a student cites wikipedia as a reference on a paper they are writing they are automatically given a failing grade.

There seems to be two discussions going on in this thread:

1. Is this list of accidents accurate?

2. is Wikipedia accurate?

As to #2, inaccurate information may appear in an article until corrected, but as to #1 - I didn't see anything in there that isn't already known and documented from other sources.

Has anyone here seen anything in the article in question that they believe is not true or didn't happen?
 

Timekeeper

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Wikipedia is by no means a reliable or accurate portrayer of information.

Wikipedia is a portal by which information is conveyed by individuals who (generally) provide citations to the reliable source of the information. To say that it is "by no means a reliable or accurate portrayer of information" is a gross exaggeration. Is the operation of this message board any different? I would suggest that any information that you provide in any of your posts are no more "reliable" than those found within the Wikipedia web site. I don't anticipate that you will be providing endnotes in your future posts.

For those who advocate against wiki or any similar method by which to obtain information are seriously missing out. I agree that wiki, alone, is not a professional or academic source of information, and of course it would never be cited in professional academics (and apparently grade school as well.) It's the CITATIONS within the content that will often lead you to the more "reliable" publication. A scientific journal, for example, is accepted as a reliable source, and a wiki article that cites to one serves as a tool by which to acquire that cite. Some of you may be surprised to learn that medical schools, law schools, etc. are teaching students how to incorporate online tools as simple as Google to help end up at the correct, final, result. So long as my doctor has the right information, I really don't care how she got there.

MKCP, you mean Southern 2d? What's the citation?

Tk
 

MKCP 1985

Well-Known Member
MKCP, you mean Southern 2d? What's the citation?

Tk

excellent points in your post above . . . it looks like the author relied primarily on public data collected after 2001 except for some well documented accidents and incidents like the 85 monorail fire and the America Sings accident and others. . .

heh. I don't have those citations handy here on a Saturday night and am too lazy to go look them up online, but they are out there. . . a drowning in the moat around Cinderella's castle, a severed appendage at Pirates I believe (keep your arms and hands inside the boat - there's a reason for that) come immediately to mind, but I think there might be one from the Speedway also. :shrug:

edit: yeah, the biggest one in terms of importance was from the Speedway (okay I'm not totally lazy . . . :lol:) WDW v Wood, Volume 489 of the Southern Second reporter, beginning at page 61. ;) That's the opinion from the court of appeals, which was affirmed by the Florida Supreme Court, but I don't have that citation. Here's a copy of the opinion though (and not from wikipedia! :lol:) http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/states/Fla/op-68647.pdf
 

WDW Monorail

Well-Known Member
My AP Gov. instructor used Wiki on several occasions. He asked us to look things up on the site and he himself handed us printed copies of articles from Wiki.

He also happens to be a college professor.
 

yankspy

Well-Known Member
My AP Gov. instructor used Wiki on several occasions. He asked us to look things up on the site and he himself handed us printed copies of articles from Wiki.

He also happens to be a college professor.
Being a professor does not necassarily make one capable of critical thought, especially in this day and age. I do not know the man so I can not say for sure whether he is an intelligent person or not. I am simply saying that being a professor does not automatically make him Einstein.
 

mctv512

New Member
Trying to stick to the topic, I was shocked to read the about the victim of the mad tea party line incident:


On May 9, 2008, the victim and her husband filed two separate lawsuits against Disney. Her lawsuit claims, among other items, that: Walt Disney World provided inadequate staff and security at the ride; there was a lack of adequate training to recognize security threats;, that the park did not anticipate the attack and have the attacker removed before anything happened; and that the following investigation was mishandled. His lawsuit against Disney is claiming the loss of his wife's support and companionship due to the attack.
wow! can you actually sue someone for "loss of your wife's support"? Thats odd. And what would the compensation money be for? Buy a supportive wife?
 

hemloc

Member
Trying to stick to the topic, I was shocked to read the about the victim of the mad tea party line incident:



wow! can you actually sue someone for "loss of your wife's support"? Thats odd. And what would the compensation money be for? Buy a supportive wife?

In layman's terms, it means he didn't get any for a while:eek:.... Yeah, I would so sue for that too, lol....
 

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