Why such a large queue for little mermaid?

Pixiedustmaker

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It's hard to say why it wasn't a smash in California. If I had to guess it was overshadowed by Carsland. It's not unusual to be at opposite ends between the west and east coasts. I remember attending 'Soarin' in California with a walk up, no stop, queue. The same thing didn't happen in Florida at all. I predict large crowds at MK when it opens.

DCA's Mermaid had long lines when it first opened, June 3, 2011, over a year before Carsland opened. The wait time quickly tapered off, it is usually a walk-on, even with the popularity of Carsland drawing guests into DCA.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
What do we expect the lines to be like when this first opens...

Like anything new I would expect pretty long lines when it first opens. On the plus side this ride has a very high capacity and I believe it doesn't need to stop for wheel chair loading, so this will help with the lines.
 

Goofyernmost

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DCA's Mermaid had long lines when it first opened, June 3, 2011, over a year before Carsland opened. The wait time quickly tapered off, it is usually a walk-on, even with the popularity of Carsland drawing guests into DCA.

Yup, but Soarin has been going at WDW since 2005, that's 7 years and it is still impossible.
 

Pixiedustmaker

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Yup, but Soarin has been going at WDW since 2005, that's 7 years and it is still impossible.

That's true. I rode Soarin' in DCA months ago, it was just a 15 minute wait or something, in Epcot it is a whole different story. Never ridden it there, even though I've eaten at the Land dozens of times. Though I would say that the Land and Epcot is a much nicer sourrounding than Condor Flats.

Maybe Mermaid in MK will benefit by being set in a nicer neighborhood.
 

coachwnh

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
No, it does not.

Even right after the first showing of World of Color last week, the hardest part of getting onto The Little Mermaid was pushing through the crowds to get to the entrance. After that is was but a minute or two to board a clamshell.
agreed. was surprised by this both after the parade and WOC how you were able to just walk on. I was expecting more when we arrived in DL (for this ride). Not saying it was bad. we did it a few times. Guess im not sure what i was expecting.
 

MarkTwain

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That's true. I rode Soarin' in DCA months ago, it was just a 15 minute wait or something, in Epcot it is a whole different story. Never ridden it there, even though I've eaten at the Land dozens of times. Though I would say that the Land and Epcot is a much nicer sourrounding than Condor Flats.

Maybe Mermaid in MK will benefit by being set in a nicer neighborhood.

The massive differences in the lines of certain attractions between the two coasts is simply baffling. That Soarin' and Midway Mania command huge lines in WDW while Disneyland's rarely top an hour, and how the opposite is true of Star Tours, is something I might never understand.
 

RSoxNo1

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It's hard to say why it wasn't a smash in California. If I had to guess it was overshadowed by Carsland. It's not unusual to be at opposite ends between the west and east coasts. I remember attending 'Soarin' in California with a walk up, no stop, queue. The same thing didn't happen in Florida at all. I predict large crowds at MK when it opens.
That park has a pretty decent attraction lineup, and Disneyland across the street. I also think it suffers a bit from location as it's an anchor to the weakest area of that park with the eyesores of Paradise Pier.

Mermaid also accommodates 2000+ people per hour, and DCA was getting about 40% of the attendance of MK up until Carsland opening. The attraction lineup and attendance at that park are all contributors and it also explains why Soarin' Over California doesn't have the same waits as Soarin' in Epcot
 

ZaneB

Active Member
When Mermaid first opens there will be a long line, like maybe two hours. I remember when Monsters Inc. at DCA opened, three hour line! Now Monsters Inc. and Mermaid are just walk-ons.

I think location will help MK's Mermaid a whole lot, plus the nicer exterior, and the fact that it is in Fantasyland. DCA's Paradise Pier looks like the bad part of town that you're parents told you stay away from, kind of depressing that Mermaid makes her home here.

But will Mermaid break the "5-10 minute wait" barrier months from now? I don't think Mermaid will require a Fast Pass, like Pooh and Peter Pan, though obviously WDW is going Fast Pass crazy.
I waited 30 mins for monsters inc, not summer.
 

ZaneB

Active Member
it upsets me that the new little mermaid ride isn't getting a few more scenes. It desperately needs a battle scene and the sea creatures in the end scene are just copies from under the sea.

HOW MANY TIMES MUST I SEE A TURTLE DANCING ON 1 LEG!
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
it upsets me that the new little mermaid ride isn't getting a few more scenes. It desperately needs a battle scene and the sea creatures in the end scene are just copies from under the sea.

HOW MANY TIMES MUST I SEE A TURTLE DANCING ON 1 LEG!
Can someone explain why people are over reacting about the replication of background figures throughout the ride? The real complaint (which again is a bit petty) should be that the background figures in this scene should be merfolk and not fish.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
Can someone explain why people are over reacting about the replication of background figures throughout the ride? The real complaint (which again is a bit petty) should be that the background figures in this scene should be merfolk and not fish.

Yeah, I don't get why this is such a big deal for people.
 

The Empress Lilly

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The massive differences in the lines of certain attractions between the two coasts is simply baffling. That Soarin' and Midway Mania command huge lines in WDW while Disneyland's rarely top an hour, and how the opposite is true of Star Tours, is something I might never understand.
I believe ST in DL has four pods compared to six in WDW. (Incidentally, I've never had to wait so long for ST as this August in Paris, for the old ST no less)

I think the other facters are location and guest traffic patterns. I think STII would draw more guests if it was located in TL in the MK. Or with a guest flow of thrill seekers doing the 'SM-ST-Matterhorn' trio as in DL. I think STII's lines would explode if it was located in DHS next to ToT instead of RnRC.
All these things matter.

I think certain intangibles are very important too. An attraction can get a certain vibe. Like a pop star, an attraction can be popular simply by virtue of being popular. It gives the impression of value, gives it a buzz, an aura of desireability.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
I think the other facters are location and guest traffic patterns. I think STII would draw more guests if it was located in TL in the MK.

I think certain intangibles are very important too. An attraction can get a certain vibe. Like a pop star, an attraction can be popular simply by virtue of being popular. It gives the impression of value, gives it a buzz, an aura of desireability.

There are a couple of problems there as it relates to WDW. The first being that WDW has an entire park themed to movies. It's undeniable that Star Tours is a movie and not someones vision of what the future will be like. Theme wise, because of that, ST would not be a good fit within TL at MK.

I don't know what Disney uses to decide what might or might not be popular at any given park. The public is fickle. Based on the almost non-existent line at Soarin in DCA during DL's 50th year, I can only believe that the queue area was as long as it was in Epcot because they had to get to the building and for no other reason. I doubt that they would have been able to forecast that degree of popularity based on the DCA track record.
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
Star Tours has a 50% higher capacity in DHS than Disneyland, it also wasn't advertised as well as it's California counterpart, and Disneyland has a much higher attendance than DHS. Factor all that in, and the same ride in Disneyland generates longer lines than it's DHS counterpart.
 

orky8

Well-Known Member
There are a couple of problems there as it relates to WDW. The first being that WDW has an entire park themed to movies. It's undeniable that Star Tours is a movie and not someones vision of what the future will be like. Theme wise, because of that, ST would not be a good fit within TL at MK.

I don't know what Disney uses to decide what might or might not be popular at any given park. The public is fickle. Based on the almost non-existent line at Soarin in DCA during DL's 50th year, I can only believe that the queue area was as long as it was in Epcot because they had to get to the building and for no other reason. I doubt that they would have been able to forecast that degree of popularity based on the DCA track record.

Besides, Star Wars takes place in the past.
 

lazyboy97o

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Whose???? :confused:
The assumed narrator who is telling the story, but we are never told when this narrator lives. It could be the future for us but the narrator's past. It is also more of a story device to create the myth structure than a literal device. "A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away..." is the is space counterpart to "Once upon a time, in a kingdom far away..."
 

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