Why not do what Universal does?

Minnesota disney fan

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I would advise against EP in mid November. That is the off season between Halloween Horror Nights and The Who-lidays. Just do Despicable Me first, then Gringott's. Those will be the only 2 attractions with major lines.

Oh, and @Mouse Trap, the EP isn't expensive so the rich and not famous can look down on the plebs. It's expensive because they don't want everyone using them. If they were cheap, everyone would buy them and the end result would be the EP line becomes the defacto Standby line.

As it stands now, it is almost exclusively an on-site resort and Platinum AP (after 4pm) perk. They don't sell a lot of EPs.

Thanks for the posted response:) Now I am torn to just hitting DM, first, then Gringotts. Will MIB, the Mummy be long waits? I know you don't have a crystal ball about wait times, but just wondering? Thanks.
 

squidward

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Side note, you may not know this but you can actually book more FP times after you use up your original 3 picks. You can even do this the same day, not 60 days in advance(crazy I know).

Yes, and it's a wonderful bonus, especially in the summer!! You get to wait in line to reserve a time not to wait in line, and your choices are usually a viewing spot for the parade, or another trip on It's A Small World 5 hours from the time you're trying to get one.

Hmmm, that or just flashing a ticket to an attendant at any time to ride 90% of the rides whenever you want with less than a 15 minute wait.

Let me think about it and I'll get back to you.
 

jloucks

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I simply stated that the extra cost of the EP is something that I can afford. And you know what, I can. I never once put anyone down who can't afford it. So, since YOU have been rude to me by claiming that I put others down who can't afford it, why don't you point out exactly where I did that, or else you can apologize.

Well, you did just insinuate anybody that doesn't agree with you is impaired....

"*insert opinion* is not functioning at full mental capacity."

...certainly you knew that would draw some predictable responses right?
 

jloucks

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Since you're new to these forums and clearly unfamiliar with a scroll button, clearly you missed that we're discussing this very topic down in the universal forums here -> http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/universal-vs-disney.901644/

The Universal vs Disney arguments have been rehashed to death over the past 10 years.

I like a fresh thread and perspectives much more than thread necromancy. I offer to anyone who does not like repeated threads to very simply not participate in the threads you do not like. That's what I do. It works fantastic. It is like super wizard magic.
 

LAKid53

Official Member of the Girly Girl Fan Club
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We're just doing a one park ticket, Universal studios side only. We've done IOA and weren't impressed, except for HP stuff so are not doing that side again. So,just one day and studios side only. This will be mid November, so not sure if it will be very busy or not? I think we will go ahead and get the EP, as you did, too. I don't want to wait all day for each ride when we only have one day for studios side. Thanks for your post:)

I think November shouldn't be too bad. We've gone in late October and the crowd wasn't overwhelming, but it was a couple of years ago. Since we stayed at a Universal deluxe, the unlimited express pass was included in the cost of our room. Which meant we could ride the Simpson ride over and over and over. Up until we rode Transformers, that was my favorite ride.

Studios has the best rides - Simpsons, Hulk, Transformers, MiB. I think Spiderman, though, is in IOA.

Enjoy your trip!
 

matt9112

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I use Express Pass at Uni (comes with hotel room for everybody staying in the room)and I really like the time it saves. I would pay extra for more Fast Pass+ access With Uni, you don't have to decide two months in advance what you're riding when. (Does that sentence make any sense?) :)


I wish people would just realize it is two different systems fastpass plus syphons regular hour capacity off essentially holding your place in line. Express pass simply acts as a front of line perk that is on top of any regular hourly capacity. So if the ride can do 1000 people an hour disney might make 500 slots fastpass so 1000 people are still going to ride but 500 will wait longer and 500 will wait much shorter. At universal ypu have all 1000 in line plus front of the line guests feeding into it. Capacity didn't change but a few people will not wait and alot a tad longer.
 

JusticeDisney

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Well, you did just insinuate anybody that doesn't agree with you is impaired....

"*insert opinion* is not functioning at full mental capacity."

...certainly you knew that would draw some predictable responses right?
Well, I certainly NEVER put anyone down who might not be able to afford EP. And as was expected, the person who said I did has mysteriously disappeared from this thread.

As for saying someone who prefers FP is not at full mental capacity, I agree that such language was inflammatory and should not have been used. I do, however, stand by my underlying point - which was, if cost is not an issue, what exactly could anyone possibly think is better about the FP system?
 

Luxe

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Well, I certainly NEVER put anyone down who might not be able to afford EP. And as was expected, the person who said I did has mysteriously disappeared from this thread.

As for saying someone who prefers FP is not at full mental capacity, I agree that such language was inflammatory and should not have been used. I do, however, stand by my underlying point - which was, if cost is not an issue, what exactly could anyone possibly think is better about the FP system?

I haven't gone anywhere. It's actually pretty hard to keep up with these forums with real life things going on. As I've said before, trying to reason with you in this thread is a lost cause. Also, there is a thread for Disney vs Uni already which a kind fellow pointed out so maybe that's where you want to be.
 

JusticeDisney

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I haven't gone anywhere. It's actually pretty hard to keep up with these forums with real life things going on. As I've said before, trying to reason with you in this thread is a lost cause. Also, there is a thread for Disney vs Uni already which a kind fellow pointed out so maybe that's where you want to be.
You said I put others down for not being able to afford EP. I called you out for blatantly lying about that. So here's your chance. Prove to me that you're not a liar by showing me where I put anyone down in that regard. Or at least be a big enough person to admit you were wrong and apologize.
 

Luxe

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You said I put others down for not being able to afford EP. I called you out for blatantly lying about that. So here's your chance. Prove to me that you're not a liar by showing me where I put anyone down in that regard. Or at least be a big enough person to admit you were wrong and apologize.

You won't see any apologies from me. Good thing this wonderful thread is staying on topic. Carry on.
 

JusticeDisney

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You won't see any apologies from me. Good thing this wonderful thread is staying on topic. Carry on.
Well, in that case you have proven that you are nothing other than a blatant liar. Congrats on exposing yourself as the worst kind of person.
 

JusticeDisney

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You won't see any apologies from me. Good thing this wonderful thread is staying on topic. Carry on.
Gotta love Internet message boards. Losers can sit behind their keyboards, type blatant lies, get called out in front of the whole forum for being a liar, and then just run off and hide. LMAO!
 

ninjaprincesst

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Oh, and since you asked, name the 3 headliner attractions that FP+ allows you to do at Epcot and Hollywood Studios. And before you attempt to answer, allow me to remind you of that lovely tier system that Disney uses. You know, the one that Universal does NOT use.
And universal has no fastpass for the most popular thing Harry Potter, so basically you are paying for something you don't need anyway because everyone at Diagon Alley so they other lines are all short anyway.
 

JusticeDisney

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And universal has no fastpass for the most popular thing Harry Potter, so basically you are paying for something you don't need anyway because everyone at Diagon Alley so they other lines are all short anyway.
If you think the lines are short at rides like Despicable Me, Transformers and the Simpsons, you and I have a very different definition of the word "short."
 

ninjaprincesst

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If you think the lines are short at rides like Despicable Me, Transformers and the Simpsons, you and I have a very different definition of the word "short."
Maybe , but the point is the most popular thing is excluded, the area of the park where it is most needed is not included and you have to pay for it! And, everone I know that has gone to Universal in the last year has gone for Harry Potter and could care less about anything else. This is like Disney excluding Anna and Elsa, 7DMT, Toy Story, Soarin and Test track from fastpass
 

JusticeDisney

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Maybe , but the point is the most popular thing is excluded, the area of the park where it is most needed is not included and you have to pay for it! And, everone I know that has gone to Universal in the last year has gone for Harry Potter and could care less about anything else. This is like Disney excluding Anna and Elsa, 7DMT, Toy Story, Soarin and Test track from fastpass
But you just proved my point. Disney DOES exclude either Test Track or Soarin from FP. Same thing with TOy Story and Rockin Roller Coaster. It's true you get to choose between two, but the you can't do both. So Disney has a system where you simply cannot do one of the top two rides.

And if you're telling me people couldn't care less about phenomenal rides such as Transformers, Despicable Me, the Simpsons, and some of the outdoor track roller coasters that Universal offers, then that's just plain crazy, IMHO.
 

JusticeDisney

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FP is free. Express is not. Simple. I like to save money as much as I can.
Right, but they are not offering the same things. FP is free for three rides. EP costs money for all but a couple rides.

It's like saying you prefer a Bic Mac over filet mignon because the Big Mac is cheaper. If that's how you feel, then that's how you feel and I have no issue with that. But you can't simply compare cost and nothing else because you're not comparing apples to apples.
 

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