Why not do what Universal does?

Minnesota disney fan

Minnesota disney fan

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JusticeDisney said:
And what happens if the weather forces you to change your plans? Or you get caught up somewhere else? Fastpass+ forces you to be locked into a schedule that you set two months in advance.
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This happened to us! We had the coveted fp+ for 7dmt on our last day at WDW. On that day, it rained buckets, flooding the walkways, and raining out all outside rides. We were told we could come back anytime that day, BUT it never stopped the downpour.
Needless to say, we would have missed out on this ride if we had not decided on a whim to stand in the standby line and ride it one day. We waited for 1 hour, but I'm glad we did. Loved the ride. The point is, if we had not waited in line, we would have missed out due to the weather. That's one of the problems with this 2 month in advance system IMO.
 
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thomas998

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Kamikaze said:
Then why mention six months? You CLEARLY thought you could book FP six months in advance.
And I said 60 days plus length of stay. Which is exactly what you said.
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No, I VERY CLEARLY didn't think fastpasses could be booked 6 months in advance nor did I ever say they could. But I understand now... your one of those people that wants to tell other people what they were thinking when they say something else and you can't admit you were wrong.

I pulled 6 months out of thin air and it was in reference to the lead time some people have in planning their vacation. Not once did I mention fastpasses having a 6 month window or even mention dining at all... Learn to accept what people say for what it is, not for what you want it to be and everything will be much less confusing.
 
Minnesota disney fan

Minnesota disney fan

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I'm interested in the Universal express pass system, as we are going to WDW in November and have scheduled one day only at Universal Studios side only. (we've been to IOA, HP, etc, and don't want to do it again) We are planning on purchasing the limited EP which allows only one ride per person per day. That will work for us, because we usually only ride once. Also with only one day, we wouldn't have time to ride them again, I don't think? Anyway, the EP sounded like a good deal to us, with only one day. I feel we can ride all we want to of their many great attractions without a wait, and just hit HP first thing at rope drop. Now I'm wondering if this is the best way to do it??? Very interested in everyone's opinions on the Universal EP! Thanks:)
 
DfromATX

DfromATX

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POLY LOVER said:
when I went and rode the HP ride you had to put your stuff in a locker and they charged you , I did not like that forced use of a locker for a fee.
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I was curious so I looked it up. Here's a link about the lockers if anyone might find it helpful: http://orlandoinformer.com/page/articles.html/_/universal/vacation-tips/rental-and-ride-lockers

In short, there are lockers you can rent all day for a fee, but the ones we used were "free while you ride." Scroll to the bottom portion for the "free while you ride" locker info.
 
jloucks

jloucks

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Goofyernmost said:
That's really not true. I have been going regularly for 32 years. 47 trips all together. I have been rained on only once and that was in the evening. Quick storm over with fast and I continued on.
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A quick googling of this topic shows that it rains about 110 days a year in Orlando Florida. How you managed 47 trips and only a single downpour is pretty lucky. Buy a lottery ticket.
 
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Kamikaze

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thomas998 said:
No, I VERY CLEARLY didn't think fastpasses could be booked 6 months in advance nor did I ever say they could. But I understand now... your one of those people that wants to tell other people what they were thinking when they say something else and you can't admit you were wrong.

I pulled 6 months out of thin air and it was in reference to the lead time some people have in planning their vacation. Not once did I mention fastpasses having a 6 month window or even mention dining at all... Learn to accept what people say for what it is, not for what you want it to be and everything will be much less confusing.
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Oh please. Why would anyone being able to plan 'six months in advance' have anything to do with anything if you didn't think you could book FP+ at that point? It wouldn't. So clearly, thats how you thought it worked. You even state:

If I'm lucky I can figure out maybe 6 weeks in advance that I'm going to be able to get a week or 2 off... but 6 months in advance? not possible
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Why would you repeatedly mention that number unless you thought it was the policy? There's no reason to make things up.

Now, six weeks out you can book any FP+ except for mine train.

If you don't like FP+, thats fine. Awesome, actually, because I don't like it either. I don't want to plan ANY FastPasses. I want to be able to decide what park I go to when I wake up in the morning and be able to get FP when I go through the gates.

As far as I understand the system, however, all the FPs don't go up at 60 days anyway, they are released in blocks. So even if you could only book 6 weeks out, you'd still have a chance to get some.
 
ninjaprincesst

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JusticeDisney said:
And what happens if the weather forces you to change your plans? Or you get caught up somewhere else? Fastpass+ forces you to be locked into a schedule that you set two months in advance.
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Last year it was raining during our Test Track time we were allowed to come back to Test Track fast pass anytime we wanted for the rest of the day or we could go to any other fastpass attraction anytime we wanted so it was no big deal.
 
ninjaprincesst

ninjaprincesst

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I for one like the fastpass+ system I can't stand the aimless wondering around approch. I like fastpass+ much better than the old fastpass system because you don't have to go all the way across the park to get a fastpass and then worry about getting all the way back later for your ride time. I don't like the universal system because it is horribly expensive for a family of four, not all the rides are included, and they sell out of them very quickly. My main objective at Universal is Harry Potter so for me the would be pretty worthless.
 
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thomas998

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Kamikaze said:
Oh please. Why would anyone being able to plan 'six months in advance' have anything to do with anything if you didn't think you could book FP+ at that point? It wouldn't. So clearly, thats how you thought it worked. You even state:



Why would you repeatedly mention that number unless you thought it was the policy? There's no reason to make things up.

Now, six weeks out you can book any FP+ except for mine train.

If you don't like FP+, thats fine. Awesome, actually, because I don't like it either. I don't want to plan ANY FastPasses. I want to be able to decide what park I go to when I wake up in the morning and be able to get FP when I go through the gates.

As far as I understand the system, however, all the FPs don't go up at 60 days anyway, they are released in blocks. So even if you could only book 6 weeks out, you'd still have a chance to get some.
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squawk all you want... but it doesn't change the fact that you are making things up that I never said. Reading between the lines is only making you look foolish. I was very clear in what I said and never said what you want to pretend I said. I was also very clear that I pulled 6 months out of then air... I could have just as easily said 8 months or 4 months and neither one would have changed the fact that those times give the person time to get in at the first chance of a FP+ while others such as myself with only 6 weeks are SOL. Man up and just admit you are wrong already.
 
The Empress Lilly

The Empress Lilly

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WondersOfLife said:
It's not that I don't prefer to stay onsite.. It's that I can't afford it. Because middle class is totally knocked out when it comes to all of the "additional benefits." So. Like I said. It's better to stay free of charge for the people who WANT to experience it but can't afford it. Universal and Disney are slowly just becoming a playground for rich people... So this is one of the few benefits Disney still has over Universal in lower classes.
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Don't worry about it. It's lower class to spend Disney on-site prices on a theme park vacation, and middle class to spend it on a college fund instead. One of the striking observations in Orlando is that it is for a substantial part decidedly not the upper classes who populate the luxury hotels and use the express passes. At least not established classes.
 
DfromATX

DfromATX

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POLY LOVER said:
Does anyone not go to Universal because they are such Disney fans it s like a betrayl to go there?
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We've only been once. We did a combo trip (which was very tiring by the way). We loved it, but my heart still belongs to Disney. Although, I will admit, it made us see how Disney was in dire need of updating, but that's another topic for another time lol.
 
Launchpad McQuack

Launchpad McQuack

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POLY LOVER said:
Does anyone not go to Universal because they are such Disney fans it s like a betrayl to go there?
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I've been to Universal Studios once and Islands of Adventure once. I would love to go back, but the last couple of times we have been planning out our Disney vacations, we consider doing a day or two over at Universal, but always go back to "but that would be one less day in Disney World," which is hard to do when we are limited in our trips to Orlando already.
 
JusticeDisney

JusticeDisney

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I completely understand the people who don't like the express pass system because of the extra cost. I get that. However, if (and I understand it's a big IF) the added cost is something that you are fortunate enough to be able to afford, then there is no question that the express pass system is better. I mean, think about it this way. Forgetting about cost, if someone came up to you and said you can have either 1) passes to just three rides - some of which might require you to plan 60 days in advance - and then you are locked into 1-hour windows to use those passes, or 2) passes to essentially every ride in the park (except for HP) which require no advance planning and can be used at any time during the day, which one would you prefer? No freaking brainer.

Oh, and one more thing. For those who have complained that the express passes can't be used for HP, let me remind you that two of Disney's parks make you select between a tier system, the effect of which is generally that the FP+ can't be used on certain major rides.
 

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