bhg469
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Yes... Yes I would if that was their comparison.. and in my defense I thought you were being silly.
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Why no simple dark rides in Galaxy's Edge?
- Thread starter Bill in Atlanta
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TrainsOfDisney
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Oh ok. Yeah I thought the CM’s comparison to pirates was accurate. I think the whole simulator part is wasted time and a bit of a let down (pun intended) for a finale of such a hyped attraction.
Its certainly less thrilling than Everest and Splash, maybe it’s on par with 7 dwarves mine train? Heck even slinky dog is more thrilling. Not that Rise needs to be thrilling, that’s my point, for such little thrill could have just been an omnimover.
UNCgolf
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I would hope Slinky was built relatively cheaply considering it has minimal theming. I suppose the vehicles themselves may have cost a significant amount, though.
lazyboy97o
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It cost about twice as much as Time Traveler at Silver Dollar City which had to deal with further shipping, more challenging terrain and higher labor costs.
choco choco
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By my calculation, Disney hasn't built a non-clone, traditional, Fantasyland style dark ride since Mike and Sully To The Rescue in 2006, and that was really just shoehorning a property into the Superstar Limo infrastructure and ride system. So it's been 16 years by earliest count. But the last "designed from the ground up" builds are Superstar Limo, which came online 2001 and Roger Rabbit's Cartoon Spin in 1996. Inbetween those are sandwiched the various incarnations of The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, which I don't really count since it's clear to me that those were all cheapened/simplified versions of stuff that was designed for Pooh's Hunny Hunt.
So really, Disney has designed only three in 26 years (since '96). It's a shame. These attractions always felt to me like the heart of the parks, and I fear the knowledge of how to make a good one has been lost. But maybe there's some hope, the Shanghai version of Peter Pan is awfully good and a lot of the plussing done to the ones at Disneyland have also been fairly strong (Peter Pan excepted).
So really, Disney has designed only three in 26 years (since '96). It's a shame. These attractions always felt to me like the heart of the parks, and I fear the knowledge of how to make a good one has been lost. But maybe there's some hope, the Shanghai version of Peter Pan is awfully good and a lot of the plussing done to the ones at Disneyland have also been fairly strong (Peter Pan excepted).
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lazyboy97o
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Yoshi’s Adventure has a 92 cm (36 in) height requirement. A lot of Universal’s little rides are oddly out of reach for little ones.
Mickey5150
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Trackless is what makes the ride, an omnimover would ruin it. Having a vehicle driven by a Droid and all of its expressions is exactly what a Star Wars attraction needs. Rise is an experience so far ahead of anything else, Disney did a phenomenal job and proved they can build epic attractions.
TrainsOfDisney
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I disagree but that’s ok. I don’t think the actual ride is that good... the experience over all is very cool. The best moments for me are all in the pre-show.
So much of the ride you are looking at big open spaces with one or two things to look at.... if they are working.
TrainsOfDisney
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Since this was a very expensive land built from scratch, it’s really a shame that there wasn’t a people mover style attraction built into it. Same with Avatar land and even Toy Story land. It’s so easy to theme people mover attractions to the land and they are popular with guests and add lots of kinetic energy.
Properly designed, the people mover could have even gone through and interacted with parts of the Rise attraction.
Properly designed, the people mover could have even gone through and interacted with parts of the Rise attraction.
Pepper's Ghost
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Let me preface with the fact I've never even rode Mermaid and have zero opinion myself. With all due respect, if @jloucks and family enjoy the ride, I don't understand questioning whether he's read the article in what appeared to be an attempt to point out that he is wrong to enjoy it. Maybe that wasn't your intent, but arguing against his enjoyment of the ride to what end? If he enjoys it, great. I'm not a Disney defender by any stretch and if anyone has been paying attention to my posts, I've spent too much time ripping recent changes, but I look down on no one for enjoying a ride (even if I don't like it) or the parks in general. If someone wants to jump out of a perfectly good airplane, more power to 'em. I have zero interest, but if someone else wants to I just hope they have a great time and that the 'chute opens.
lazyboy97o
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Part of the problem is exactly what we saw with Galaxy’s Edge. Instead of following KISS they went complicated with the Bantha vehicle. Star Wars is full of all sorts of vehicles that they could have used on a simple wire guided track.
Pepper's Ghost
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While my heart agrees with you here, I'm not sure the parks work that way. I'm not convinced I'm right, but let me explain my logic. Perhaps this single example isn't enough, but my heart broke when ExtraTERRORestrial Alien Encounter was closed. It was previously top 5 or 6 in the park for me. They felt that it was "too scary" though, and decided to replace it because it didn't appeal to a majority of people, but I personally thought it was fantastic and would ride it multiple times in a day. What was the end result? They reworked the story into Stitch GE, and after that ran for several years it ultimately closed because it just s&cked. That last part is my own opinion, but it wouldn't have closed if it was intensely popular because it just sits vacant now. If you don't have a replacement, no reason to close it unless in fact it does s&ck. I don't want to debate anyone who liked Stitch GE btw because I'm not going to argue against you. Everyone has the right to like any ride or not despite others' opinions.
Anyway, my point is that if a ride doesn't broadly appeal to most people, it tends not to survive. So, again I wish you were right and that they didn't rip out rides that don't necessarily appeal broadly. I guess real estate is just too precious and limited to keep rides that don't.