Why do people defend Disney's snack prices...

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xdan0920

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(Ps, not sure if you are being serious about the "grammar nazi" remark that is pretty common online to explain such behavior. Technically nothing to do with Nazis)

And technically, I classify while I also classify as a Minority. I still do not see what this has to do with the real nazis who hated minorities or race.

I usually have you on ignore, but I kept seeing show ignored content, so I clicked it. Can I make a suggestion? I can, good! So, here it is...

You don't need to include illustrations with your posts. It's the main reason I have you on ignore. We don't need to see gifs or memes or photos all the time, it's annoying.
 

danyoung56

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...the majority who go to insult the grammar of the first poster have either nothing to do with the original post or question, want to prove they are superior, or just cant give anything to advance the conversation and require something to shut the opposition down.

Or they're just pointing out grammatical mistakes in the hope than people learn and don't repeat the same mistakes over and over and over again. It's a fine line we grammar Nazis have to walk. I don't want to point out every little misspelling, as some are just innocent typos. But when someone repeatedly misuses apostrophes (apostrophe's) or can't tell "their" from "there" from "they're", then it's time to step in and in a light-hearted way try to point out the mistake.
 

Cesar R M

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I usually have you on ignore, but I kept seeing show ignored content, so I clicked it. Can I make a suggestion? I can, good! So, here it is...

You don't need to include illustrations with your posts. It's the main reason I have you on ignore. We don't need to see gifs or memes or photos all the time, it's annoying.
You can happily keep me on ignore then.

There are so many things you cant explain with simple words that Image macros fit so well.
And I will continue to use them until the mods and admins tells me they are banned or forbidden.


Or they're just pointing out grammatical mistakes in the hope than people learn and don't repeat the same mistakes over and over and over again. It's a fine line we grammar Nazis have to walk. I don't want to point out every little misspelling, as some are just innocent typos. But when someone repeatedly misuses apostrophes (apostrophe's) or can't tell "their" from "there" from "they're", then it's time to step in and in a light-hearted way try to point out the mistake.
Good point, but in this case.. he outright insulted the poster intelligence.
It didn't sound helpful in any way, felt like a clear way to blast the other end of the conversation and discredit him.

Technically, the point would go over the person you're trying to insult or insinuate isn't on point. Heil grammar!!

Except I didn't. You were the one insulting people's intelligence and then clearly trying to discredit them by then switching to point at their writing skills.
Nice try to deflect anyway.
 

flynnibus

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Welp, there goes the idea that all sports teams rip off customers on food and bev....


""In any fan survey, food and beverage is one of the most important drivers of fan experience and the one that is the most broken," Cannon said. "It's either lack of quality, lousy delivery or bloodcurdling pricing.""

But... but... it's a business!!! They have the duty to chase profits!!!

Let's hope it lasts :)
 

Goofyernmost

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""In any fan survey, food and beverage is one of the most important drivers of fan experience and the one that is the most broken," Cannon said. "It's either lack of quality, lousy delivery or bloodcurdling pricing.""

But... but... it's a business!!! They have the duty to chase profits!!!

Let's hope it lasts :)
It's not so much a duty, but, the basis of any business is profit (yes, I know Disney is an entity from heaven and should be above all those nasty reality standard that dirty business deal with everyday). Without profits they don't exist and all these threads have concentrated on snack for heavens sake. Not even the real ripoff of the restaurants at Disney. I read these because I find that those against the high prices justify it in the same nonsensical manner that they try to imply that those that aren't bothered by it use. Quite amusing sometimes.

I wonder if any of you guys who sarcastically make the continued old insult "but, but, it's a business", realize just how naive and disconnected from reality they are. It's OK to wish that Disney was a supernatural entity that is above all that and have a special tree in Fantasyland that produces money at an alarming rate so charging for things is unnecessary. However, that outlook is so saturated in Pixie Dust that it is almost needs one of the rolling eye memes that tend to be used often. It's like saying that Disney is ruining your enjoyment by making you pay the going prices for something that you feel should be supplemented or given free. None of that makes any natural sense at all. I wish that I could do like I did in 1970 when I bought my brand new Buick for $3100.00. Wouldn't that be nice to go back in time. Of course that would mean that you would have to settle for a standard salary of $8000.00 a year (middle class). That $3100.00 was barely sufficient to do that and had I been married with a family it would have been impossible. I'll pay $2.50 for a bottle of cold "clean" water anytime then return to those "good old" days.
 

xdan0920

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It's not so much a duty, but, the basis of any business is profit (yes, I know Disney is an entity from heaven and should be above all those nasty reality standard that dirty business deal with everyday). Without profits they don't exist and all these threads have concentrated on snack for heavens sake. Not even the real ripoff of the restaurants at Disney. I read these because I find that those against the high prices justify it in the same nonsensical manner that they try to imply that those that aren't bothered by it use. Quite amusing sometimes.

I wonder if any of you guys who sarcastically make the continued old insult "but, but, it's a business", realize just how naive and disconnected from reality they are. It's OK to wish that Disney was a supernatural entity that is above all that and have a special tree in Fantasyland that produces money at an alarming rate so charging for things is unnecessary. However, that outlook is so saturated in Pixie Dust that it is almost needs one of the rolling eye memes that tend to be used often. It's like saying that Disney is ruining your enjoyment by making you pay the going prices for something that you feel should be supplemented or given free. None of that makes any natural sense at all. I wish that I could do like I did in 1970 when I bought my brand new Buick for $3100.00. Wouldn't that be nice to go back in time. Of course that would mean that you would have to settle for a standard salary of $8000.00 a year (middle class). That $3100.00 was barely sufficient to do that and had I been married with a family it would have been impossible. I'll pay $2.50 for a bottle of cold "clean" water anytime then return to those "good old" days.
Nonsense. Beginning to end nonsense. Words for the sake of words.

We have a real life example of a business aiming for guest satisfaction over maximum short term profit. You think the Falcons are planning on losing money? That it's a charity they are running?

Good grief.
 

WDWVolFan

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If we want a free for all, cheap food park, I'm sure N. Korea has some great and cheap food at their theme parks.
 

njDizFan

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Thanks for finding the way to twist everything that I said into what you felt I was saying instead of what I was saying. I didn't think that, proven by the fact that I said "most people" that my thoughts were any genius revelation. Not sure why you saw it that way. As for the three quotes, not even close to what they meant. It is the opposite of that. It says that it's the ones that will pay for the great Starbucks ripoff that are complaining that Disney shouldn't have such high prices because... well, because for some reason Disney should supplement your vacation expense as if they have some obligation to make your vacation cheaper. The "poories", as you put it, are not at the parks. They can't even afford to get there. It is the same group of people that if it serves their needs it is ok to be taken for a ride, but, if it isn't what they want then the seem to need to ask people why they serve their own needs by being willing to be taken by Disney. All the same my friend. And no one is spewing venom except the one that imply by asking that question that one is a fool to not be up in arms over the cost of snacks.

I'm sure since you seem to understand me so well, that you will also understand that no one should have to defend or explain their reason that they find the costs acceptable. No more then you should condescendingly be asked why you don't. That question is basically an intellectual insult that says very strongly.... Hey, why are you so dumb that you think that it is OK for Disney to charge that much. Sorry, but, why I do or do not do that is my personal business and none of yours. It isn't an interesting topic it is an effort to have a running argument expounding the outright ignorance of those that still recognize a theme park for what it is. An expensive place to have a vacation. However, to many it is worth the cost. If it's not to you then you shouldn't go there, again it really is that simple.

Also other then you, I have never heard anyone say "LET THEM MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS IS POSSIBLE RIGHT NOW! They shout from the rooftops. I LOVE PAYING huge premiums on food and beverages on vacation!!!!!" What I have read into the posts, at least mine, is that it is what it is. I am not forced to go there and spend money, I go willingly and pay what is asked if that's the experience I want. As individual "guest" we cannot universally be made to justify it. It's not up to us or you or anyone else that thinks that their fascination for the Parks translates into individual power to change things that are more societal then driven by one company.

The people you folks are questioning do not feel that the prices are anymore outrageous then what other entertainment venues charge and don't expect Sam's Club prices at a place like Disney. Why others do really makes it a more interesting question, doesn't it?
Funny you bring up discount clubs. I know Costco gets thrown around here as a case in point. But I think it bears some consideration.

Sometimes my family and I will grab dinner from the Costco snack bar. The main reason is I see value and consistency. So bascially for a family of 5 I can take out a 10 dollar bills and 4 quarters and call it a meal. The $10 for the cost of a pizza(with any extra topping you choose) and the (4).25 for the kids to get a kick out of buying their own bottle of water in the ultra cool modern vending machine. Hey maybe I'm feeling crazy and buy myself a .59 soda.

As a former food service manager for a large chain of supermarkets, I realize the prices they are selling their food at is not generating any real profits. Even if it is a loss leader, the food and beverages offered reflects the brand. You get a lot of food for a very fair price. They can afford to do that because they know you will also be coming to buy $20 worth of string cheese or whatever...The perception is consistent with brand.

I'm not a 100% sure of the accuracy but Costco also has the reputation for being fair to their employees(fair wage, off major holidays etc).I factor that into my decisions on what I consider a perceived value. Also the store is clean, they have people refolding clothes every time one is picked up, fresh baked items constantly being restocked.

Disney used to be that company. They had a clear ethic, we will give you the best,cleanest and most innovative themed entertainment. And all along thanking you for your patronage with hospitality. That created generations of good will that still lingers to this day.(although fading).

Someone mentioned that I should expect to pay lot of money at the theme park, I should know what I was getting into. I have come to expect that but Why? What if Disney sold their water for .25 like Costco. What if they exceded expectations and their model was cheap water. Would that bring in extra guests? Would that potentially hydrate people better and allow them to stay longer in the parks? It mostly certainly would show the customer that there is a perception that company isn't a constant money grab.
 

Goofyernmost

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Nonsense. Beginning to end nonsense. Words for the sake of words.

We have a real life example of a business aiming for guest satisfaction over maximum short term profit. You think the Falcons are planning on losing money? That it's a charity they are running?

Good grief.
What is nonsense is thinking that high sounding snack prices are not part of the atmosphere of spending money at WDW. There are a few people, mostly on the boards that are just bat crap crazy about the fact that the "snacks" are expensive. The vast majoring couldn't care less. They don't spend there life there and for a week or two they just buck it up and pay what is asked and really don't think about it again, unless they decide to use it as a status symbol, which most do not.

I don't care what the Falcons are doing or planning to do. It is not even close to relevant to this discussion. One way or the other they are profit motivated and it isn't the price of food that is getting them to the game. It is just a peripheral part of the experience. If stuff is cheap OK, if it isn't they will just spend more or bring there own. If on the other hand they want to be profitable in the "food" part they will charge more. Either way, it has no influence on who goes to the game or who goes to WDW.

Complaints mean nothing. Years ago we used to go to WDW before Fastpass. People complained about it, but, not in an angry way. It was part of the experience. Fastpass comes in and that is all we hear is complaining and something that was never there before, "Anger" because they have extended the length of stay to cater to a few. This is hardly worth a single post (mine included) much less three posts trying to rally support for something that is of little consequence. Believe me, if Disney fails it will have almost nothing to do with snack prices. Of all the problems of Disney Parks, that isn't even a blimp on the radar.
 

Cesar R M

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""In any fan survey, food and beverage is one of the most important drivers of fan experience and the one that is the most broken," Cannon said. "It's either lack of quality, lousy delivery or bloodcurdling pricing.""

But... but... it's a business!!! They have the duty to chase profits!!!

Let's hope it lasts :)

Oh dear god, here we go with the business thing XD
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No. There's not. Its exhausting.
Perhaps, but I am not posting explicitly to make you happy.
I mean.. its almost akin of telling someone to shut up because you do not like what they're saying and how they should shape the way they talk to fit your tastes.
Thats why the ignore tool works well in this forum.
 

Cesar R M

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Someone mentioned that I should expect to pay lot of money at the theme park, I should know what I was getting into. I have come to expect that but Why?
Technically, we're paying a huge amount already.
And they are rolling in profits in the P&R area.
 

draybook

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You can happily keep me on ignore then.

There are so many things you cant explain with simple words that Image macros fit so well.
And I will continue to use them until the mods and admins tells me they are banned or forbidden.



Good point, but in this case.. he outright insulted the poster intelligence.
It didn't sound helpful in any way, felt like a clear way to blast the other end of the conversation and discredit him.



Except I didn't. You were the one insulting people's intelligence and then clearly trying to discredit them by then switching to point at their writing skills.
Nice try to deflect anyway.


Deflect what? Do you have a drinking problem?
 
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