who/what is "TDO"?

[xdan0920]

Nothing to do with common sense.
All you need to do is read a bit about the man, how he envisioned the park and how he actually felt about the financial side of the business. It is all well documented.

Where is the PROOF?????

I want to hear it from Walt's mouth otherwise I will not believe it!!!!!

What? He is dead? Well then, you can not prove anything!!!!!!

Jimmy Thick...Irrational to the end!!!!!!!!

 

[Kamikaze]

Walt's vision was to make money, and lots of it, that was his "dream" for his theme park.

Walt didn't care about making money. That is why I will always maintain that he would have bankrupt the company if he had lived another 10 years and had really attempted to built E.P.C.O.T.

How do you research common sense? You really believe he sold park investors on making dreams come true, or making lots of money.


And who lives in a fantasy world?

:ROFLOL::ROFLOL::ROFLOL:


Jimmy Thick-1959 or 2012, it was and still is about money.

He sold the main investor in Disneyland by giving them a show on their network. His name meant ratings. Thats why they invested.

 

[captainkidd]

How do you research common sense? You really believe he sold park investors on making dreams come true, or making lots of money.


And who lives in a fantasy world?

:ROFLOL::ROFLOL::ROFLOL:


Jimmy Thick-1959 or 2012, it was and still is about money.

You've clearly never read a book or watched a documentary about Walt Disney.

It is WELL DOCUMENTED that Walt was a horrible business man who left all business dealing with money up to his brother. His brother used to get furious with him as Walt did things that showed complete disregard of money, in order to have something done the way he wanted it.

 

[xdan0920]

You've clearly never read a book or watched a documentary about Walt Disney.

It is WELL DOCUMENTED that Walt was a horrible business man who left all business dealing with money up to his brother. His brother used to get furious with him as Walt did things that showed complete disregard of money, in order to have something done the way he wanted it.

Documentary???? What documentary? What is a documentary anyway?!?!?

I want PROOF!!!!!!!!


Jimmy Thick....PROVE IT!!!!!!!!

 

[ddbowdoin]

You've clearly never read a book or watched a documentary about Walt Disney.

It is WELL DOCUMENTED that Walt was a horrible business man who left all business dealing with money up to his brother. His brother used to get furious with him as Walt did things that showed complete disregard of money, in order to have something done the way he wanted it.

just read Bob Thomas' book... really shows you the guy was passionate about things beyond profits and income

 

[captainkidd]

just read Bob Thomas' book... really shows you the guy was passionate about things beyond profits and income

Read it. Great book.

 

[Jimmy Thick]

Common sense says:

Man who builds theme park that is not designed to make money does not have theme park or company that is riding on theme park long.


Common sense, who would have thunk it.


Jimmy Thick- Jimmy Thick Fact-Jimmy Thick's brain cells are stronger than a Chuck Norris roundhouse.

 

[wm49rs]

just read Bob Thomas' book... really shows you the guy was passionate about things beyond profits and income

Great book, as is Gabler's And both show that while Walt was interested in financial "security" to move forward with his film and park projects, making huge profits was not a driving force for him.

 

[SulleyanBoo]

How do you research common sense? You really believe he sold park investors on making dreams come true, or making lots of money.


And who lives in a fantasy world?

:ROFLOL::ROFLOL::ROFLOL:


Jimmy Thick-1959 or 2012, it was and still is about money.

APPARTENTLEY I do right? haha:wave: Call it fantasy if you'd like. It's what Walt envisioned.

But, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Everyone including me thanks.

Walt was a business man. This I know. Business men generally always want to make money. Guess it looks like I have some common sense after all


But, that does not take away from ME stating that I personally think his invision was to make dreams come true including his own ..NOT to JUST make a profit.

 

[SulleyanBoo]

well, selling someone on something does not entirely mean that it represents your true thoughts or intentions. He said what he had to say to his investors to get their funds, once this was achieved profits came from his vision. But to say that his primary motivation was profit is something I would not agree with.

Exactly.

 

[devoy1701]

Where is the PROOF?????

I want to hear it from Walt's mouth otherwise I will not believe it!!!!!

What? He is dead? Well then, you can not prove anything!!!!!!

Jimmy Thick...Irrational to the end!!!!!!!!

i wonder what it's like living in a world of absolutes and every truth must be proven.

 

[Master Yoda]

i wonder what it's like living in a world of absolutes and every truth must be proven.

It is not too bad. The decor is a bit minimalistic but I have always liked clean lines and surfaces.

 

[Kamikaze]

It is not too bad. The decor is a bit minimalistic but I have always liked clean lines and surfaces.

Prove it.

 

[imagineer boy]

Walt's vision was to make money, and lots of it, that was his "dream" for his theme park.


Jimmy Thick-Lets talk to the investors about making dreams come true... Money has nothing to do with it...

And the worst post of the year award goes to.....

"Disneyland is a work of art, we didn't go into it with the idea of making money." -Walt Disney

 

[Hakunamatata]

And the worst post of the year award goes to.....

"Disneyland is a work of art, we didn't go into it with the idea of making money." -Walt Disney

That's nice and everything, but the investors think different.

 

[googilycub]

In my opinion, Walt's invision was making other's dreams come true..NOT just trying to make millions of $$$ and now that same "invision" DOES seem a bit fuzzy.

Walt has been gone almost 45 years, things tend to get fuzzy over that much time.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I think it is blatantly obvious that a good many people doubt the value of a trip to Walt Disney World. That is why we continue to see the various discounts.

This would definitely be a shade of gray in the "stop spending money issue." If I feel a day at Walt Disney World is not worth $90 and go, it does not necessarily mean I am paying $90. This mindset is also stuck in the old means by which the Resort was operated as a whole and not as distinct business units. The question is no longer "Is Walt Disney World profitable?" Now every single shop, restaurant, resort and attraction must stand on its own. So not going to the parts of a park which one consider's to be sub-par is an act in not going. Shops and restaurants have sales to meet and even attractions have attendance quotas which determine their worth. Incidentally, this change in accounting which does allow for so many shades of gray is one that does draw a lot of criticism.

Common sense says:

Man who builds theme park that is not designed to make money does not have theme park or company that is riding on theme park long.


Common sense, who would have thunk it.


Jimmy Thick- Jimmy Thick Fact-Jimmy Thick's brain cells are stronger than a Chuck Norris roundhouse.

Common sense also says that you do not sell off your cartoons for at or just under cost, but do continue to demonstrate your ignorance.

 

[captainkidd]

That's nice and everything, but the investors think different.

Investors, yes. Walt, no.

 

[Hakunamatata]

Investors, yes. Walt, no.

As much as I think Walt was a brilliant man and as much as people like to ponder what Walt woulda thunk about this or that, it really doesn't matter because 1. Walt isnt here anymore and 2. The investors now matter more than Walt because he went public with the company.

 

[njDizFan]

As much as I think Walt was a brilliant man and as much as people like to ponder what Walt woulda thunk about this or that, it really doesn't matter because 1. Walt isnt here anymore and 2. The investors now matter more than Walt because he went public with the company.

Yes, that is correct, those bygone days have past. Now businesses have to answer to Wall Street if they wish to remain solvent. Profit has trumpted quality long ago.