who/what is "TDO"?

[devoy1701]

Everyone who is THAT disatisfied just stay home and spend your time writing complaint letters. You will be doing something more productive then just complaining here. This will also help shorten the wait time in lines and with fewer people ordering food, the cooks will have more time to spend on the qaulity and presentation. Problem solved!

this, for instance, is a very narrow-minded view of the situation.

 

[captainkidd]

Then speak with your wallet and don't go and communicate your issues with the company.

If someone continues to purchase a product they are unhappy with, then the fault is with the consumer not the company.

And that's the problem with America in general. That type of attitude gets us nowhere. People are always going to go, and they should. I still love Disney, and overall, the experience is awesome. The problem is, Disney, like a lot of other companies, feel because they do so many things right, they can also do some things wrong.

 

[captainkidd]

Everyone who is THAT disatisfied just stay home and spend your time writing complaint letters. You will be doing something more productive then just complaining here. This will also help shorten the wait time in lines and with fewer people ordering food, the cooks will have more time to spend on the qaulity and presentation. Problem solved!

Yeah - That'll work.

 

[jakeman]

Fair enough point.

However, talking about it on a message board, and speaking with your wallet do not have to be mutually exclusive of one another. Sometimes it is nice to vent. Especially for someone who has spent the majority of their vacation time and dollars on WDW.

You're right of course. I would fully expect someone who is complaining not to be going back.

However, why complain as much as some of the minority does here only to have your next visit in your signature?

 

[captainkidd]

this, for instance, is a very narrow-minded view of the situation.

For some people, it's all or nothing, black or white. There is no grey.

 

[captainkidd]

You're right of course. I would fully expect someone who is complaining not to be going back.

However, why complain as much as some of the minority does here only to have your next visit in your signature?

Posts like this are just crazy. This is a message board. It's open to compliments and complaints about Disney. Disney isn't perfect. But if you have a complaint that you like to discuss on a message board then you automatically must not like the place?

Come on.

 

[JIMINYCR]

I thought it stood for The Dummies in Orlando.

Anyways, here's a picture of the heads of TDO:

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Nyuk nyuk nyuk Love those guys. Unfortunately you'll find them in every corporation and boardroom across the country. Just have to shake your head, think about what could have been, and put up with them.

 

[jakeman]

And that's the problem with America in general. That type of attitude gets us nowhere.

It's the perfect type of attitude to deal with a corporation who is supplying what, in your opinion, is a sub par product at a premium price.

If you are unhappy with the product, don't purchase it.

Posts like this are just crazy. This is a message board. It's open to compliments and complaints about Disney. Disney isn't perfect. But if you have a complaint that you like to discuss on a message board then you automatically must not like the place?

Come on.

A complaint, singular, and pages and pages of complaints about multiple topics aren't the same thing.

...and it's hard to be that way when you love the brand as much as some of us do.

That's a personal problem and is a disservice to the brand and yourself to not be able to separate yourself from something that you don't enjoy to the value you are spending on it.

 

[Jimmy Thick]

And that's the problem with America in general. That type of attitude gets us nowhere.

Ask the CEO of Netflix how that nowhere went...


To be negative or "hate" TDO is silly, and does no good. There is no magic wand thats going to fix whatever issues the small minority wish to worthlessly complain about, your just wasting your breath and precious bandwidth.

You really want to make a statement, don't go to the parks, keep your money out of Disney's deep pockets. You just might become a happier person...


Jimmy Thick-But we, and Disney won't miss you!!!

 

[blm07]

Tokyo Disney Orlando

 

[MarkTwain]

Is it weird that some of my earliest childhood memories involve running around from cubicle to cubicle in the TDO building, and trying to figure out the giant sundial? :lol: My mom worked as a travel agent in the Team Disney building, and I used to visit her often. Her office mates were very friendly and accommodating. My mom was even best friends with some TDO employees, and we'd visit them occasionally on the weekends.

This seems so weird to think about now. :lookaroun

 

[captainkidd]

Ask the CEO of Netflix how that nowhere went...


To be negative or "hate" TDO is silly, and does no good. There is no magic wand thats going to fix whatever issues the small minority wish to worthlessly complain about, your just wasting your breath and precious bandwidth.

You really want to make a statement, don't go to the parks, keep your money out of Disney's deep pockets. You just might become a happier person...


Jimmy Thick-But we, and Disney won't miss you!!!

Oh, the irony.:ROFLOL:

And good analogy Jimmy. A company that only does one thing (and screwed it up), versus an American Icon that is involved in just about every piece of pop culture imaginable and has made some mistakes in recent years.

 

[Master Yoda]

Oh, the irony.:ROFLOL:

Yet the irony does not invalidate the argument. If enough people stop spending money with a company that company is forced to change or die. The trick is getting enough people to do it.

 

[captainkidd]

Yet the irony does not invalidate the argument. If enough people stop spending money with a company that company is forced to change or die. The trick is getting enough people to do it.

I don't think Walt Disney World as a whole is anywhere near that point yet. There have been mistakes and bad calls, yes. But as a whole, as far as I'm concerned, I'm still getting my money's worth.

Not the point. Some on here are basically saying that if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. This is a message board, and not one run by Disney.

I'm a huge Bon Jovi fan. If I posted something on their official message board negative, it would get erased in minutes. However, if I post the same message on a fan board not run by the band, it creates an interesting discussion. I don't see anything wrong with not liking EVERYTHING that a band, or in this case, WDW does.

Different strokes for different folks. Some people don't get the complaining about TDO. Some people don't get the complaining about the complaining about TDO.

 

[Kamikaze]

I think the % is really a lot lower than that. There is a vocal minority who feel that way. I think most people really don't pay that much attention and just enjoy the parks.

I enjoy the parks no matter what. However, I still feel that TDO are morons.

I don't see anything wrong with not liking EVERYTHING that a band, or in this case, WDW does.

There isn't anything wrong with it. Anyone that tells you otherwise needs to sign off the internet and go play some Candyland.

That said - there are some posters that are so negative, it blows my mind that they still attend the parks and visit this site.

 

[Jimmy Thick]

Oh, the irony.:ROFLOL:

And good analogy Jimmy. A company that only does one thing (and screwed it up), versus an American Icon that is involved in just about every piece of pop culture imaginable and has made some mistakes in recent years.

Nope, same thing, you just have to see it. Company made a mistake, and payed for it, lost a lot of revenue because of their mistakes.

If Disney was making the same mistakes the people would speak. The only people complaining are a small fraction of the people who go to Disney World, and by small fraction, more than likely under 1%.

You want Disney to hear you, stop spending your money there, spend it elsewhere.

See how much they miss you.:ROFLOL::ROFLOL::ROFLOL:



Jimmy Thick- * Flex *

 

[captainkidd]

Nope, same thing, you just have to see it. Company made a mistake, and payed for it, lost a lot of revenue because of their mistakes.

If Disney was making the same mistakes the people would speak. The only people complaining are a small fraction of the people who go to Disney World, and by small fraction, more than likely under 1%.

You want Disney to hear you, stop spending your money there, spend it elsewhere.

See how much they miss you.:ROFLOL::ROFLOL::ROFLOL:



Jimmy Thick- * Flex *

I don't care if Disney hears me. I agree with you on that - My complaining to them isn't going to change anything. If you don't like threads like this, then don't post on them. Not sure what else to tell you there Jimbo.:shrug:

 

[Jimmy Thick]

There isn't anything wrong with it. Anyone that tells you otherwise needs to sign off the internet and go play some Candyland.

That said - there are some posters that are so negative, it blows my mind that they still attend the parks and visit this site.

 

[HM Spectre]

Then speak with your wallet and don't go and communicate your issues with the company.

If someone continues to purchase a product they are unhappy with, then the fault is with the consumer not the company.

They way I look at it, WDW is still easily worth my money but it could be even better if TDO would make better decisions and learn how to properly allocate the resources they have. What's wrong with voicing that opinion?

 

[devoy1701]

That's a personal problem and is a disservice to the brand and yourself to not be able to separate yourself from something that you don't enjoy to the value you are spending on it.

what do you not understand about "complaining does not equate to general digust and hatred for the overall product"?

Being upset with the way things are managed at WDW doesn't mean we can't enjoy or don't enjoy our time in the parks. The value threshold is going to be different for everyone. I've personally hit mine so I chose not to go at this point, and probably won't go for another year or so until that time when the new offerings that I have yet to experience finally once again outweigh the price I shell out for APs. But currently that isn't the case, the existing issues with the current attractions + the lack of available new entertainment has kept me from spending a single penny there in over a year.

However, I can still go to the Magic Kingdom and have a fantastic time there with the people I'm visiting with. It doesn't mean that the condition of some of the attractions doesn't bother the hell out of me.

Again, being critical doesn't mean you can't love something. And loving something doesn't mean you can't be critical. It really isn't one way or the other/black and white, my way (or your way) or the highway. You might think the parks are still a great value and a great vacation and that is perfectly fine. But I think a growing amount of people are realizing that their WDW vacation a few years ago held greater value than their WDW vacation today.