Where in the World Isn't Bob Saget?

MinnieM123

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Songbird76

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I'm in favor of this. Are you? 🤔
They talked about it here a year or so ago and decided to table it because they want to stick with whatever the neighboring countries do, so until Germany, Belgium, and France decide all together what they want to do, we will still have this nonsense of changing clocks. I wish we'd just pick a time and stick with it. The experts apparently did research and determined that the best thing, healthwise, would be to remain on the "summer time" (DST) throughout the year. I'm all for it!
 

Goofyernmost

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I'm in favor of this. Are you? 🤔
Not really, why not make Standard Time permanent? Why Daylight Savings time? We have the same amount of daylight either way, except one is a little earlier in the morning which for most people heading for work less gloomy and safer.
 

SteveBrickNJ

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Anyone want to share their thoughts with me? 🤔
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Songbird76

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Anyone want to share their thoughts with me? 🤔
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Personally, I'd book soon...I'm planning to book ours soon, too. Most people haven't been able to travel abroad for 2 years now, so I think there's going to be an increase in demand. If there IS another bug that goes around and creates another lockdown, I think your money would have to be refunded. The non-refundable ticket only applies if YOU cancel the trip. They can't take your money and then not provide the service you paid for, so if THEY cancel flights, they have to give your money back. If you are think YOU will want to cancel if there's an illness, then you should look into travel insurance that will refund if you should have to cancel for any reason.
 

SteveBrickNJ

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Personally, I'd book soon...I'm planning to book ours soon, too. Most people haven't been able to travel abroad for 2 years now, so I think there's going to be an increase in demand. If there IS another bug that goes around and creates another lockdown, I think your money would have to be refunded. The non-refundable ticket only applies if YOU cancel the trip. They can't take your money and then not provide the service you paid for, so if THEY cancel flights, they have to give your money back. If you are think YOU will want to cancel if there's an illness, then you should look into travel insurance that will refund if you should have to cancel for any reason.
Thanks for your thoughts.

The basic concern would be the hypothetical:
1) My wife and are healthy
2) The flight will not be canceled and will happen
3) Covid cases at the time are high ( just hypotheticl) in Ireland and you can't dine i....no indoor concert....no tours of St Patick's Cathedral, etc. etc.
Insuranace would not pay us back...because we COULD go....but we'd spend money on airfare and hotels but not really enjoy ourselves.
This is our concern....likely worrying for nothing. We (like everyone else) want the Covid resurgence in China to not spread and put all of us back in to familiar covid protocals.
 

Songbird76

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Thanks for your thoughts.

The basic concern would be the hypothetical:
1) My wife and are healthy
2) The flight will not be canceled and will happen
3) Covid cases at the time are high ( just hypotheticl) in Ireland and you can't dine i....no indoor concert....no tours of St Patick's Cathedral, etc. etc.
Insuranace would not pay us back...because we COULD go....but we'd spend money on airfare and hotels but not really enjoy ourselves.
This is our concern....likely worrying for nothing. We (like everyone else) want the Covid resurgence in China to not spread and put all of us back in to familiar covid protocals.
I am not sure what protocol in Ireland has been or is now, but....just a few thoughts that occur to me....IF flights are open, I would imagine restaurants and whatnot would be as well. If it's bad enough to shut down restaurants and hotels, flights won't go.

And I THINK a lot of Europe has done similar things...even when restaurants were closed for in house dining, they were open for takeout and delivery. And grocery stores have stayed open....you certainly won't starve. I've got covid right now, as do my husband and daughter....we can't send our son to get groceries....that's too much for him. So I was able to get groceries delivered Tuesday, and one of E's friends brought us Milk on Monday to tide us over until our delivery the next day. For today, we are out of stuff to make meals, so we are ordering food in....there are options even if you can't get into a restaurant. I would also imagine that if it got to that point that everything was closed while you were already there, arrangements could be made to get you home sooner. It would be an absolute bummer, but you aren't likely to be stuck there, having to pay for hotel and restaurants...the US will always let its citizens back in. And insurance would probably cover the cost of rebooking flights, or having to pay for the hotel even though you went home early But when the restaurants were open, you needed proof of recovery or vaccination, or a negative test to get in. I'm not sure where other countries are in this, but we have an app that puts our information into a QR code for entry. The app has options for both the Netherlands, and international. I don't know if you have something like that, but if not, if you have a card with your immunizations, that would probably be enough, and if not, you still have the option of takeout.

In short, I'm thinking that you'd be covered if you already bought tickets and the trip had to be canceled. But there's no fixing it if there are just no flights available. So the greater risk is probably waiting too long to book. You can always work something out if something happens to make things more difficult, but you can't magic a new flight into existence.
 

SteveBrickNJ

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I am not sure what protocol in Ireland has been or is now, but....just a few thoughts that occur to me....IF flights are open, I would imagine restaurants and whatnot would be as well. If it's bad enough to shut down restaurants and hotels, flights won't go.

And I THINK a lot of Europe has done similar things...even when restaurants were closed for in house dining, they were open for takeout and delivery. And grocery stores have stayed open....you certainly won't starve. I've got covid right now, as do my husband and daughter....we can't send our son to get groceries....that's too much for him. So I was able to get groceries delivered Tuesday, and one of E's friends brought us Milk on Monday to tide us over until our delivery the next day. For today, we are out of stuff to make meals, so we are ordering food in....there are options even if you can't get into a restaurant. I would also imagine that if it got to that point that everything was closed while you were already there, arrangements could be made to get you home sooner. It would be an absolute bummer, but you aren't likely to be stuck there, having to pay for hotel and restaurants...the US will always let its citizens back in. And insurance would probably cover the cost of rebooking flights, or having to pay for the hotel even though you went home early But when the restaurants were open, you needed proof of recovery or vaccination, or a negative test to get in. I'm not sure where other countries are in this, but we have an app that puts our information into a QR code for entry. The app has options for both the Netherlands, and international. I don't know if you have something like that, but if not, if you have a card with your immunizations, that would probably be enough, and if not, you still have the option of takeout.

In short, I'm thinking that you'd be covered if you already bought tickets and the trip had to be canceled. But there's no fixing it if there are just no flights available. So the greater risk is probably waiting too long to book. You can always work something out if something happens to make things more difficult, but you can't magic a new flight into existence.
Thanks for your time. You put a lot of thought and effort into helping me and I really appreciate it.
toward the end you'll see you ended one sentence: "already bought tickets and the trip had to be canceled".
For me....the key word is "HAD". the insurance would pay if the trip HAD to be canceled...but I am floated the hypothetical situation where we would want to cancel...in a hypothetical return of covid to Ireland...but Ireland and the airline would ALLOW us to come.
It would be OUR PREFERENCE in this hypothetical situation to cancel....thus our preference would not qualify for a pay out by insurance. I hopefully am making sense :rolleyes: 😄
 

trr1

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National days

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Songbird76

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Thanks for your time. You put a lot of thought and effort into helping me and I really appreciate it.
toward the end you'll see you ended one sentence: "already bought tickets and the trip had to be canceled".
For me....the key word is "HAD". the insurance would pay if the trip HAD to be canceled...but I am floated the hypothetical situation where we would want to cancel...in a hypothetical return of covid to Ireland...but Ireland and the airline would ALLOW us to come.
It would be OUR PREFERENCE in this hypothetical situation to cancel....thus our preference would not qualify for a pay out by insurance. I hopefully am making sense :rolleyes: 😄
No I get that...but in that case, you might want to consider waiting a year or two to make sure you're going to be comfortable. At the very beginning of the pandemic, E's class was supposed to make a trip to London. The 2nd years in the dual immersion program go every year and stay with host families so they are immersed in the English language, and they have a bunch of assignments that show they meet the requirements of the program. It's a crucial part of the dual immersion program, because without those assignments, they can't prove things like that they can have a conversation with a native speaker. Anyway, they go in March of each year. So Covid was just starting to reach European countries in January or February, and there were only a handful of cases in England. There were more cases here than there were there, so we figured it was probably pretty safe. We have to pay at the beginning of the school year for all the field trips and materials and such, so we had already paid for the trip. People were canceling trips all over the place and we asked the school and they kept saying that as long as there was no restricted travel to England, the trip would go through. The kids were preparing their interviews with their host families, and grocery shopping to buy gifts for those host families, and getting photocopies of insurance cards and passports and all the documents they needed when the school suddenly decided to cancel the trip, even though there was no negative travel advice and no restrictions. Since it was the school's choice to cancel, not that they COULDN'T travel, insurance didn't cover it, and they didn't ask our opinion or permission to cancel the trip, even though it was OUR money. We paid for the trip and didn't get a vote in whether or not they canceled. So they canceled....and then 2 days later, the day before they were supposed to go, travel was restricted. If they'd have kept the reservations, the trip would have been canceled anyway, but all the money would have been refunded. (Many parents complained to the school that they didn't give us any choice in the matter when it was OUR money, and the school ended up paying us back themselves.)

The moral of the story is, IF you buy tickets, wait until the last possible moment to cancel them. It doesn't matter whether it's the day of or a week before....you still lose the same amount. But if you wait, they may end up restricting and your insurance would cover it. Don't cancel a month before the trip, or even a week before...things can change in a short amount of time.
 

SteveBrickNJ

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No I get that...but in that case, you might want to consider waiting a year or two to make sure you're going to be comfortable. At the very beginning of the pandemic, E's class was supposed to make a trip to London. The 2nd years in the dual immersion program go every year and stay with host families so they are immersed in the English language, and they have a bunch of assignments that show they meet the requirements of the program. It's a crucial part of the dual immersion program, because without those assignments, they can't prove things like that they can have a conversation with a native speaker. Anyway, they go in March of each year. So Covid was just starting to reach European countries in January or February, and there were only a handful of cases in England. There were more cases here than there were there, so we figured it was probably pretty safe. We have to pay at the beginning of the school year for all the field trips and materials and such, so we had already paid for the trip. People were canceling trips all over the place and we asked the school and they kept saying that as long as there was no restricted travel to England, the trip would go through. The kids were preparing their interviews with their host families, and grocery shopping to buy gifts for those host families, and getting photocopies of insurance cards and passports and all the documents they needed when the school suddenly decided to cancel the trip, even though there was no negative travel advice and no restrictions. Since it was the school's choice to cancel, not that they COULDN'T travel, insurance didn't cover it, and they didn't ask our opinion or permission to cancel the trip, even though it was OUR money. We paid for the trip and didn't get a vote in whether or not they canceled. So they canceled....and then 2 days later, the day before they were supposed to go, travel was restricted. If they'd have kept the reservations, the trip would have been canceled anyway, but all the money would have been refunded. (Many parents complained to the school that they didn't give us any choice in the matter when it was OUR money, and the school ended up paying us back themselves.)

The moral of the story is, IF you buy tickets, wait until the last possible moment to cancel them. It doesn't matter whether it's the day of or a week before....you still lose the same amount. But if you wait, they may end up restricting and your insurance would cover it. Don't cancel a month before the trip, or even a week before...things can change in a short amount of time.
We MIGHT NOT buy insurance at all....we MIGHT elect to pay more than the super cheap airfare and instead purchase "Fully Refundable Economy" Tickets. Still weighing our options and your post here is indeed helpful.
As always, thanks for the time and caring you put into your posts.
 
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Goofyernmost

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We MIGHT NOT buy insurance at all....we MIGHT elect to pay more than the super cheap airfare and instead purchase "Fully Refundable Economy" Tickets. Still weighing our options and your post here is indeed helpful.
As always, thanks for the time and caring you put into your posts.
I always buy insurance when going overseas. You never know and trying to find a place that covers your regular insurance might be impossible. With the state of the world right now you never know what is going to happen and it could be massive out of pocket loses. I didn't find it all that expensive when put up against the total cost of the trip.
 

SteveBrickNJ

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I always buy insurance when going overseas. You never know and trying to find a place that covers your regular insurance might be impossible. With the state of the world right now you never know what is going to happen and it could be massive out of pocket loses. I didn't find it all that expensive when put up against the total cost of the trip.
I will certainly educate myself on it eventually. Thanks friend.
 

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