StarWarsGirl
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How similar is it to 2010? There's a required (free) online 3 credit course I have to take that's based on Office 2010.
EDIT: Oops, just read your other post. I guess that answers the question
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How similar is it to 2010? There's a required (free) online 3 credit course I have to take that's based on Office 2010.
EDIT: Oops, just read your other post. I guess that answers the question
StarWarsGirl
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I could get very used to it very quickly...also why I didn't upgrade when I got my laptop (that, and 2013 wasn't out for another month)
englanddg
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As you read, it's almost identical to 2010 in terms of UI. It runs a bit faster, in my experience, and with less system load.
I base a lot of this on Excel (something I use regularly), and, to give you an example, I dumped ~240k rows from a SQL query using remote desktop copy/paste (not the best way to do it, for the record, but the most convenient) to an Excel 2013 spreadsheet this morning, and it took about 3 minutes...
Then I had to do sorts, and other manipulations, and it was speedy.
I have 2010 at home, and it works ok (MUCH better than 2003, which was leaps and bounds better than 2000), but I prefer 2013.
They have a free trial for 2013, check it out and decide for yourself...but, I wouldn't invest anything in 2010 if I were you.
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englanddg
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Crap.
Don't pay for antivirus unless you have to.
For general antivirus use MS's free "Security Essentials" program.
For malware concerns, use the free version of malwarebytes.
For other concerns use ccleaner (run that on your machine every few months...think of it like a high fiber diet for your computer)...
StarWarsGirl
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Okay. I had Kaspersky on here and it made my computer run more slowly...wasn't sure if I should put more antivirus protection on it or not.
englanddg
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No. You never need more than one antivirus running at any time...in fact, if you do that, they often like to step on each other's shoes.
Karpersky isn't terrible. Norton and McAfee are complete trash (anymore, they used to be great)...both are system hogs now.
Vipre is a great AV if you wish to pay for one. But, for most users, Security Essentials (which is free) is fine.
StarWarsGirl
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Windows defender is the default program for Windows 8. Is this fine or should I install Security essentials?
englanddg
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Defender is more a "security manager"...it is not AV (Antivirus). So, yes, you should.
StarWarsGirl
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It told me it wouldn't install because "Your version of Windows includes an updated version of Windows Defender that provides the same level of protection as Microsoft Security essentials, along with other significant improvements."
Only I go to Windows Defender to find that it is turned off. So now I have to go to the Action Center to figure out what the heck is wrong.
englanddg
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Oh, sheesh, my bad. I forgot they integrated them with 8. I still run a mostly 7 environment, so things like that slip my mind, sorry.
If it is turned off though, you are right, go to the action center. All this being said, if you really are paranoid about virii, use vipre.
StarWarsGirl
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Okay, it was turned off and apparently you have to turn it on in the Action Center *facepalms* Why must they make everything so convoluted?
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So. Many. Technology. Discussions. 
StarWarsGirl
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It's more my dad who is paranoid, though Security Essentials worked fine in my old computer. He has Kaspersky on the desktop.
Speaking of which, that desktop is four years old. It's slowing down. Two questions:
1. In your opinion, is Internet Explorer playing into the problem?
2. What can I do to speed it up?
StarWarsGirl
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So. Many. Technology. Discussions.
We're geeks
. That, and we have a geek here who can answer questions pretty quickly on evenings and weekends. Not only that, but he seems to be enjoying talking about it!
englanddg
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Microsoft.
Google is no better...I had a helpdesk call today from a CEO wanting to know how to turn on SMS messaging through Gmail...it was a half hour before I remembered it was a Google Labs feature you had to turn on...
Both are the same...no real direct tech support at all...
StarWarsGirl
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Microsoft.
Google is no better...I had a helpdesk call today from a CEO wanting to know how to turn on SMS messaging through Gmail...it was a half hour before I remembered it was a Google Labs feature you had to turn on...
Both are the same...no real direct tech support at all...
Google and I have a love/hate relationship. I use Gmail because IMO it offers the best Spam filters and other security features (when I was young, naive, and getting my first email address I got AOL. BAD IDEA! I also have icloud. Meh. Gmail is better). I prefer Bing for a search engine. Google Maps is the best map program around. I use Google+ to upload and share photos, but it's convoluted to use. I like Picassa but it's slow. And I use Chrome. Actually, I use Chrome and can't really complain about it.
englanddg
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Yeah, older users are generally particular about that sort of thing (no offense to your Dad)...
It's just that they lived through the "virus scares" in the early 00's, for lack of a better term, years ago... I suspect your Dad, more than once, had multiple pop up windows (which really wasn't a virus at all, merely a browser exploit) convince him he should be paranoid. Paranoia is fine, but paid AV isn't all that much better (or in the case of Norton and McAfee, generally worse) than just being a safe user.
This is a gross analogy, but it's one I used to use for my CIS101 class (I'm frankly shocked that no one ever complained...)... Think of computers like having...intimate relations...with someone. Everytime you exchange data with an untrusted source, be it a website, a CD, a USB device, etc...your computer is...well...doing the humpty hump.
The more untrusted places you expose your computer too, just like in real physical relations, the more exposure you have to pick something up.
Of course it's far more complex than that, but as a general rule, it works.
As far as your older machine being slow, it could be a variety of things. Start off with downloading ccleaner and running that. IE is integral to the OS, and should be upgraded, but never uninstalled. Chrome (but no longer firefox..firefox has gone down the bloat road lately) is a nice clean browser to use that isn't quite as much a memory hog as IE is, but IE 10 / 11 are both rather clean, so MS has done a good job streamlining the browsers (though, you may run into compatability issues...though, you'll run into that with Chrome as well...but it's rare...also, Chrome has an issue they haven't yet fixed with the Flash plugin, which is annoying, and can cause Chrome to crash randomly).
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I'm with you @AllyBaker3 Technology gives me a headache.So. Many. Technology. Discussions.
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