George Lucas on a Bench
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No, Disneyland is not a museum. It is a theme park.
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What's with the wait times!? (hint.. they're low)
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chadwpalm
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I think you hit the nail on the head. A lot of people are probably thinking since they don't have reservations and can't see GE, just wait until they can and avoid what they "think" will be mass crowds.
Touring Plans said yesterday was supposed to be a 9 (out of 10) and ended up being a 1. Again, today was predicted as a 9 and looking at the app the wait times are still pretty low throughout the park.
I'm going next Friday and I'm REALLY hoping this keeps up!
shambolicdefending
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I think most people tend to feel that "peak" Disney was whenever they personally came of age in the resort. Old enough to remember it with some detail, but young enough to still embrace the magic.
25 years ago my parents complained about how modern management had defiled their childhood Disneyland.
I thought the were being ridiculous. Mid-90s Disney was awesome, and what I feel nostalgic for.
A couple of decades from now I'm sure my kids will feel the same about the Disneyland they grew up with, circa 2020.
25 years ago my parents complained about how modern management had defiled their childhood Disneyland.
I thought the were being ridiculous. Mid-90s Disney was awesome, and what I feel nostalgic for.
A couple of decades from now I'm sure my kids will feel the same about the Disneyland they grew up with, circa 2020.
Californian Elitist
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I wish the parks could always be this bare.
SuddenStorm
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Interestingly, I think Disneyland peaked before I was born. If I had to put a specific year, I'd say '95- Indy just opened and it's before the dreaded budget cuts and removals that soon followed. This is the year where Disneyland had really found it's footing and was firing on all cylinders, with much of the classic park still intact.
I'd say the various "peak" years for each generation would be
1959
1969
1977
1989
1995
2015
shambolicdefending
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Give it 10-15 more years and check back in with your feelings on this. Real nostalgia usually sets in well into your 30s.
In truth, there are a lot of things that make today's Disney way better than mid-90s Disney. I mean, it was awesome. But, for everything we've lost since then I can name at least one cool thing we've gained and shouldn't take for granted.
Californian Elitist
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Not necessarily.
I grew up in the 90’s and 2000’s and I don’t yearn for those versions of the parks.
I really admire Disneyland as it was in the 60’s (1959 was really a great year), however there are bits and pieces of each era I wish I could take and form the park.
SuddenStorm
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Worth noting, I'm talking Disneyland park only- I don't care about the DCA/Resort expansion. But I'm curious why you think my opinion would change in a decade? The Disneyland I'm nostalgic for was far better in '95 than it ever was in, say 2010. I was just trying to say that not everyone bases their Disney criticism on pure nostalgia.
shambolicdefending
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A lot of truth in this, IMO.
Everybody on this forum is, by definition, a little nutty about Disney parks. But, experience leads one to ration out their emotional energy differently as time goes on.
shambolicdefending
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Your opinion may not change at all, which is perfectly fine. But my own views have changed a lot the further into adulthood I get. I'm still in my 30s, so not THAT old. But my perspective on a lot of things is already really different than it was in my early 20s. So take that for what it's worth.
Interesting that you see Disneyland Park in some isolation. I have a hard time partitioning it from DCA in my mind. For all the stumbles and all the work it still needs, the resort is still far better off today with DCA than without it. I would not trade all of DCA just to get the PeopleMover and Skyway back.
George Lucas on a Bench
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It's another completely laid back reasonable day with only Space Mountain and Radiator Racers demanding significant lines. Given the near walk-on status of most of the other attractions, you can really rack 'em up while waiting for your FP return times.
THE 1HAPPY HAUNT
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Unless you count the times it broke down constantly. I want that 2 hours of my life back that I wasted in line for that ride.
mickEblu
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Their is a lot of truth to this and I have made the same case before. However, I think objectively you can make a case that certain certain time periods were just better. Take 1989 for example, you had every E ticket except for Indy and all in a way less crowded park that still felt like a park. I think trading Indy, Toontown and Fantasmic for the skyway, peoplemover, original Subs, Country Bears and lower crowds is a pretty sweet deal.
shambolicdefending
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So, is this good news or bad news from the suits' perspective? What says the wdwmagic braintrust?
chadwpalm
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- In the Parks
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The real question is did Disney anticipate this? Will it continue for the next three weeks? Do they have enough time to try and do some crazy promotion to get bodies into the parks? Clearly, PhilharMagic and SoC weren't enough to bring people to DCA.
I just saw a couple of articles on the OCR talking about how dead the parks have been yesterday and today. Will that bring people in when they realize how empty the parks are? Especially the higher tier unblocked APs? I think it's too short of a time for most vacationers to book a quick trip, especially since most of them who don't have reservations want to wait until after June 23rd to go.
Again, I'm going on Friday (when Deluxe and below APs are blocked), so I'm really hoping it's going to be dead then. We'll get a better idea as the week goes on I suppose.
Disney Irish
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I don’t think it’s as clear cut as that, at least not for me. And I would say its definitely not about just accepting anything new, but yes maybe rolling with the punches I would agree with. But I also personally remember the parks are not all about me either, they are for everyone. So while I may personally not like a certain change, I can see that maybe someone else can or does like the change. Also for me its about comparing the current changes to one of the low points in the parks history, the late 90s during the Pressler years.
For example, is the change better or worse than taking the Peoplemover offline replacing its with Rocket Rods, and then when it didn't work out leaving it to rot for almost 20 years without doing anything about it. So far from my perspective there has been no change that has been worse. So until it gets to that level of bad I won't raise any pitchforks over any specific change.
I just personally don't take issue with the shrinking of planters, or even changing the paint scheme to the castle. So personally I just don't get up in arms about some change, while others I may take issue with but accept that again the parks are not all about me.
Disney Irish
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I think its also important to remember we're in AP block out period now. All but the new Disney Flex and Signature passes are blocked out today, add that to fear of SW:GE opening weekend and you can see why wait times are low today. We'll see what happens tomorrow when Deluxe is open again.
Rich T
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Well...during the rare hours when it worked....
TP2000
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To be fair, Saturdays in summer are always the slowest day of the week. It's been that way for years now, and well documented, as almost all AP's are blocked out on Saturdays from June to late August.
That said, the reservation system for Star Wars Land really seems to be paying off for them. Right now in late afternoon the E Ticket wait times are;
Radiator Springs Racers - 120 Minutes
Hyperspace Mountain - 75 Minutes
Soarin' Over California (first day back!) - 30 Minutes
Star Tours - 30 Minutes
Millenium Falcon - 25 Minutes
Guardians of the Galaxy - 25 Minutes
Incredicoaster - 20 Minutes
Matterhorn Bobsleds - 20 Minutes (just reopened from an hour long temporary closure)
Indiana Jones Adventure - 15 Minutes
Big Thunder Mountain - 10 Minutes
Haunted Mansion - 10 Minutes
Submarine Voyage - 10 Minutes
Pirates of the Caribbean - 5 Minutes
Jungle Cruise - 5 Minutes
It's A Small World - 5 Minutes
Grizzly River Run - 5 Minutes
Splash Mountain - 5 Minutes
Honestly Disney just did a great job of not only how they are disseminating people through GE so far but has prepared
Yes eventually people will be coming again. This is the first weekend to the MAJOR hype of GE opening. I can't tell you how many posts I read from people on other boards saying they are staying far away from the resort in the next few weeks and even months because so many assumed everyone would be there. But of course once people see GE actually had the opposite effect and its very orderly and not effecting the rest of the park then I suspect next weekend will be busier.
And I think come June 24th is when the real chaos will begin. But then again it may not be so bad with a lot of passes blocked out and a lot of the hardcore SW fans seeing it during this period. I give Disney a lot of credit though. This could've been total chaos this weekend and it had the complete opposite effect.
Yes eventually people will be coming again. This is the first weekend to the MAJOR hype of GE opening. I can't tell you how many posts I read from people on other boards saying they are staying far away from the resort in the next few weeks and even months because so many assumed everyone would be there. But of course once people see GE actually had the opposite effect and its very orderly and not effecting the rest of the park then I suspect next weekend will be busier.
And I think come June 24th is when the real chaos will begin. But then again it may not be so bad with a lot of passes blocked out and a lot of the hardcore SW fans seeing it during this period. I give Disney a lot of credit though. This could've been total chaos this weekend and it had the complete opposite effect.