hopemax
Well-Known Member
Reading these threads, I end up feeling like we're in a bizarro world where the Summer of 2019 @ Disneyland, when the only APs in play were the top tier passes, and every day was handwringing about the lack of crowds and was TDA upset or not... didn't happen.
I don't think Disney has a problem with the expensive AP passes. The Summer of 2019 is evidence that even Disneyland can support a passholder program without overrunning everything. They have made multiple attempts at decreasing the overall volume of APs by targeting the lower level passes. Price increases, removing parking, that Flex pass (we should have seen the reservation system coming) thingy they debuted in 2019. So IMO, whatever they do will be primarily targeted at this group. And even then, I don't think Disney cares that you *buy* these passes but... They do have a problem with too many passholders showing up for grand openings, major anniversaries for attractions, first days of seasonal events, etc. Or just in general at DL. The reservation system, now gives them a way to avoid that. Especially with a limit of how many people can have at once. I feel like the more radical options people are predicting won't come to pass, and in the end it will be mostly the same (except the price) but now with reservations! Or more like Shanghai or that Flex Pass, but applying to more passholders than originally envisioned.
$$$$$ Tier - You pay a ton (and it will be a ton), you get stuff. No blockout dates, no reservations. (same as Platinum before, except the price!)
$$$$ Tier - You pay a lot, but we're still worried about y'all showing up all at the same time. No blockout dates but reservations required for select days (grand openings, peak weekends, holidays). Introduced at a price similar to what Platinum was before, but now you might have to plan, but many people will say, "I love planning!/I didn't want to go those days anyway" so it will be accepted as if it's no change
$$$ (Resident Pass/DVC) - Blockout dates (peak season), reservations required for many days. Similar to the DL Deluxe/ WDW Gold, but reservations to prevent non-peak weekends, special events, the last days before blockouts start, from getting too slammed.
$$ Tier (Resident Pass) - You pay less, you can come, but not too often, and only on the days we really want you too. Many blockout dates, and reservations always required.
$ Tier (Resident Pass) - The Epcot After 4 pass survives
Staying on-property can buy you access to the resort bucket for reservation availability, and up the limit you can hold at one time.
I don't think Disney has a problem with the expensive AP passes. The Summer of 2019 is evidence that even Disneyland can support a passholder program without overrunning everything. They have made multiple attempts at decreasing the overall volume of APs by targeting the lower level passes. Price increases, removing parking, that Flex pass (we should have seen the reservation system coming) thingy they debuted in 2019. So IMO, whatever they do will be primarily targeted at this group. And even then, I don't think Disney cares that you *buy* these passes but... They do have a problem with too many passholders showing up for grand openings, major anniversaries for attractions, first days of seasonal events, etc. Or just in general at DL. The reservation system, now gives them a way to avoid that. Especially with a limit of how many people can have at once. I feel like the more radical options people are predicting won't come to pass, and in the end it will be mostly the same (except the price) but now with reservations! Or more like Shanghai or that Flex Pass, but applying to more passholders than originally envisioned.
$$$$$ Tier - You pay a ton (and it will be a ton), you get stuff. No blockout dates, no reservations. (same as Platinum before, except the price!)
$$$$ Tier - You pay a lot, but we're still worried about y'all showing up all at the same time. No blockout dates but reservations required for select days (grand openings, peak weekends, holidays). Introduced at a price similar to what Platinum was before, but now you might have to plan, but many people will say, "I love planning!/I didn't want to go those days anyway" so it will be accepted as if it's no change
$$$ (Resident Pass/DVC) - Blockout dates (peak season), reservations required for many days. Similar to the DL Deluxe/ WDW Gold, but reservations to prevent non-peak weekends, special events, the last days before blockouts start, from getting too slammed.
$$ Tier (Resident Pass) - You pay less, you can come, but not too often, and only on the days we really want you too. Many blockout dates, and reservations always required.
$ Tier (Resident Pass) - The Epcot After 4 pass survives
Staying on-property can buy you access to the resort bucket for reservation availability, and up the limit you can hold at one time.
