What will replace Rock 'N' Roller Coaster + "Magical Mystery Tour Coaster" Idea

[Wendy Pleakley]

Yeah I know, that's why I asked. I'm asking for your opinion.

I wouldn't have a major problem with a Star Wars redo of RnRC. It's a pretty generic section of the park, really, and "miscellaneous sci-fi themed coaster" fits just as well there as Aerosmith or Tower of Terror.

As for the rest, I wish they'd do a better job of putting things where they make sense thematically.

The strength of Epcot was always that it offered a distinct experience, that was different that the Magic Kingdom. 'Soarin fits the park, but would have been a proper fit in World Showcase. I don't think Guardians fits there whatsoever. Frozen is a bad fit because it has no specific connection to Norway.

There are ways to incorporate thrills and cartoons that make sense. Test Track at least has a futuristic feel. A Coco ride in Mexico would make perfect sense - broad appeal and reflective of Mexican culture.

 

[Model3 McQueen]

I wouldn't have a major problem with a Star Wars redo of RnRC. It's a pretty generic section of the park, really, and "miscellaneous sci-fi themed coaster" fits just as well there as Aerosmith or Tower of Terror.

As for the rest, I wish they'd do a better job of putting things where they make sense thematically.

The strength of Epcot was always that it offered a distinct experience, that was different that the Magic Kingdom. 'Soarin fits the park, but would have been a proper fit in World Showcase. I don't think Guardians fits there whatsoever. Frozen is a bad fit because it has no specific connection to Norway.

There are ways to incorporate thrills and cartoons that make sense. Test Track at least has a futuristic feel. A Coco ride in Mexico would make perfect sense - broad appeal and reflective of Mexican culture.

Darn - edited the original post after you quoted it

I would have to agree with you, although I would have an issue with them sticking Marvel and Star Wars and Pixar and Frozen wherever they want not to better an attraction but simply to brand them. In the case of RnR however that might make a good argument - Marvel is generally missing, but Star Wars is getting its own land and I don't think it would make any sense. ToT is perfect the way it is for what the park is for what the benchmark for new attractions should be.

Haven't been to EPCOT in over a decade but I know what the park is about. I don't know if I agree with Disney management with all of the recent IP implementation.

 

[DisneyDoctor]

I think it's inevitable that eventually this attraction will close for a few reasons:

• The theming hasn't changed in years.
• Aerosmith is as popular as it used to be.
• There are so many better ideas to replace it.
• Overall when you remove the Aerosmith music, it's basically just an indoor coaster with a couple cheesy cardboard cutouts.

Now lets look over the ideas many people have speculated:

• A Monsters Inc. "Door" Coaster.
• An Avengers or Iron Man themed coaster.
• A Wreck-It Ralph coaster.

These ideas actually have good possibilities. The Monsters Inc. Door Coaster, while it would be tough to have a narrative, could possibly work with good theming. Same goes for the Wreck-It Ralph idea, but then again if the Stitch replacement rumor is true then it probably won't happen. Out of all of these, the Avengers idea is the most likely with the rumor that all of Sunset Boulevard will become a Marvel Land (which I'm still worried about).

However, one idea I had was this: "The Magical Mystery Tour Coaster".

In the queue you enter Abbey Road Studios to meet The Beatles, with the walls lined up with albums, posters and more. You enter the pre-show room you are greeted by AAs of all 4 Beatles. Paul informs us that sadly, they are "scheduled for a trip" and can't get to meet you all. However, John suggests that they bring the fans with them, and you are invited to join them on the Magical Mystery Tour.

You are then lead out to the boarding area, a 60's style back alley. You then board a colorful vehicle painted like the Magical Mystery Tour Bus, and are launched into the attraction. Like the current attraction, it will play a randomised song from the Magical Mystery Tour album. The ride building itself will be much more elaborate. The plywood donuts and tacos are replaced with psychedelic projection-mapping, animatronics, senses and more. One moment you'll be rushing through a strawberry-scented field, then you'll soar above George Harrison with his floor-piano, then passing a band consisting of a walrus, a hippo, a chicken and a rabbit, before the ride ends, pulling up into a police station (a tongue-in-cheek ending hinting that the ride was an acid trip). You then exit into a Beatles gift shop where you can buy records and t-shirts.

What do you guys think? Tell me your ideas for what they should do with Rock 'N' Roller Coaster.

While I love the current theming, your idea sounds pretty freaking awesome. As Steven Tyler would say, “wait a minute, I love that idea.”

 

[ninjaprincesst]

I could think of nothing worse than the Beatles, they are not popular with young kids and teens, where as Aerosmith is , my 18 year old and her friends like Aerosmith and think the beatles are basically boring old people.

 

[Disneyfan_76]

So, the idea is to take an old dated band (Aerosmith) and replace it with an even more dated band (Beatles)? Both bands have great music, but are in no way current. The Aladdin cave of wonders escape could be really well done if given a decent budget. Personally I feel that whatever they put there to replace it should be a little more 'timeless' as to not age out every decade or so.

 

[Robbiem]

I love the idea but would love to see this representing my home in the UK pavilion (fun fact the Beatles represented the UK in the one world show, the worlds first international satellite programme, they performed All you need is love). Using the cartoon versions of the fab four from yellow submarine would add to the fun. The beatles are one of those rare things they do live through the generations so i think this would date better than the current aerosmith version.

As to RnRC i think guardians would have been a great fit. A cartoon themed version might not work as the ride isn’t family friendly enough. Id theme it to Indy then add a boat ride and make an indy land which would free up the stunt show area for development as another theme

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

I've said this before, but I think if they were to stick with music being the theme, Elvis would be a good one. Of course there's more to it than just the design and labor, but potentially, they could use existing movie and TV appearances (as well as one of the millions of impersonators) to splice together footage for the preshow, and the limos become pink Cadillacs. Since Elvis is long dead and gone (but remains a cultural icon, even if kids aren't crazy for him), his aging and potential death wouldn't affect the ride itself. It would be more like walking into a past golden era (the whole "Hollywood that never was and always will be" vibe).

 

[TwilightZone]

I know current music would be a really bad idea, but if disney were to do current music for a rnrc replacement, part of me thinks justin timberlake would fit well since he's been a pop icon since the 90s. Either that or beyonce, both have been mainstream for a long time.

 

[Model3 McQueen]

I know current music would be a really bad idea, but if disney were to do current music for a rnrc replacement, part of me thinks justin timberlake would fit well since he's been a pop icon since the 90s. Either that or beyonce, both have been mainstream for a long time.

You wouldn't want a coaster based on GAGAzilla? or Nikki Minaj? How about Kanye West?

 

[Kram Sacul]

How about leaving it alone and focusing on parts of the park that need attention? RnR is extremely popular as is and it just works. A cheap and rushed overlay wouldn’t draw more people.

 

[TwilightZone]

You wouldn't want a coaster based on GAGAzilla? or Nikki Minaj? How about Kanye West?

The kanye west ride would have to be made to be more insane to match the man lol.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

From a continuity standpoint RnR, ToT and Sunset Blvd make sense together. Although Aerosmith is an east coast band you can stretch the imagination and think Whisky, Roxy, Rainbow Room and Viper Club as they were popular in that era.

If they are going to re-theme the ride they should stay within some type of boundary otherwise you'd have a ride (and it's theme) out on an island. Walking past the Derby, down Sunset Blvd with the shops and QS locations, then past ToT - to arrive at the Black Panther or like attraction - without supporting attractions, shops or theming - isn't the way to do it IMO.

Now if they are looking to re-theme that entire area at some point - then the sky is the limit.

If they do re-theme under the existing conditions, I'd be okay with a more generic rock and roll theme and then allowing the guest to chose from a soundtrack of songs.

 

[GVentola]

A Beatles ride would be cool, but I'm afraid an "acid trip" wouldn't be appropriate to Disney's family values. But then again, Aerosmith isn't exactly a saintly band themselves!

 

[TheDuke]

A Beatles ride would be cool, but I'm afraid an "acid trip" wouldn't be appropriate to Disney's family values. But then again, Aerosmith isn't exactly a saintly band themselves!

It's not like kids would actually get what the psychedelic imagery was supposed to represent at the time. And stuff like Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds are just part of general pop culture now.

 

[graphite1326]

I could think of nothing worse than the Beatles, they are not popular with young kids and teens, where as Aerosmith is , my 18 year old and her friends like Aerosmith and think the beatles are basically boring old people.

I agree. They were popular when I was growing up. I didn't like them then and don't now. Just the first boy band. I talk to the new generation and they say they are just all right. My bands were Cream, Free, Lynyrd Skynyrd, and Aerosmith (lets not forget Ted Nugent. Nothing would be better than a crazy ride with the motor city madman). Ya know bands that could actually play their instruments well.

 

[correcaminos]

Completely disagree. When I go to WDW for a week, there's plenty to do to keep me busy the whole time. I'd rather they improve what they have than increase volume for volume's sake.

Then they need to find a better way to disperse crowds. You cannot keep taking away rides and try to increase attendance. I'd rather they upkeep what they have, stop closing rides for multiple years only to bring in some hot for the moment IP.

To the OP's idea I wouldn't care for it at all. I'd venture to say that the Beatles are not going to be popular with younger crowds. Aerosmith at least has more fun music for all.

 

[KINGLOUIS1993]

How about leaving it alone and focusing on parts of the park that need attention? RnR is extremely popular as is and it just works. A cheap and rushed overlay wouldn’t draw more people.

Was going to comment on this thread but you did it for me, cheers

 

[marni1971]

How about leaving it alone and focusing on parts of the park that need attention? RnR is extremely popular as is and it just works. A cheap and rushed overlay wouldn’t draw more people.

This.

 

[Clover Bailey]

A Beatles ride would be cool, but I'm afraid an "acid trip" wouldn't be appropriate to Disney's family values. But then again, Aerosmith isn't exactly a saintly band themselves!

Disney made a rode where get run over by a train and go to Hell, I don't think a few drug references could hurt an attraction

 

[slappy magoo]

A Beatles ride would be cool, but I'm afraid an "acid trip" wouldn't be appropriate to Disney's family values. But then again, Aerosmith isn't exactly a saintly band themselves!

From wikipedia

Fantasia began to make a profit from its $2.28 million budget after its return to theaters on December 17, 1969.[2][71] The film was promoted with a psychedelic-styled advertising campaign, and it became popular among teenagers and college students who reportedly appreciated it as a psychedelic experience.[99] Animator Ollie Johnston recalled that young people "thought we were on a trip when we made it ... every time we'd go to talk to a school or something, they'd ask us what we were on."

EDIT - and this from the official D23 fan cub site.

Long before Blu-ray and instantly streaming movies, segments of Fantasia were available to schools in the 1960s as 16mm rentals, and university students rediscovered the film, finding the animated feature’s overwhelming imagination and endless creativity mind-blowing. Catering to the hip kids who turned on to the artistry of Fantasia, Disney re-released the film for the fifth time in 1969, complete with a psychedelic ad campaign. Fantasia at long last turned a box office profit as audiences flocked to the theaters. In 1980, Disney Legend Irving Ludwig, who had managed Fantasia‘s 1940 roadshow engagements and returned to Disney to become President of Buena Vista Distribution in 1959, remarked: “Walt was at least 25 years ahead of his time and the public wasn’t ready for Fantasia just yet. In 1969, however, the 18- to 30-year-olds finally discovered it — the very audience we had been wooing all the time. Since then it has been in continuous release in selected theaters across the country. Fantasia will always be my all time favorite picture.”