What the heck are some people wearing?

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jloucks

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The social justice movement states that people can wear whatever they like and if you have a problem with it, it is you with the problem.

It is pretty much that simple on the surface.

You dig a little deeper and it is a sexism issue that states men need to control themselves. Sorta like burkas, but think booty shorts.
 

LUVofDIS

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I agree, that people should perhaps consider that they are going to be in view of young children and should perhaps consider what they are wearing, but it's not normal to sexualise a body part because someone has it on display even the slightest bit. And it's not the fault of the person wearing the clothing, either.

I would go even further and say that the reason children think that showing or seeing certain body parts are bad is because they are taught that they are bad. Sorry, we are not born thinking that this is bad, it is taught.
 

geekza

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But the only reason why these areas are "traditionally sexualised" is because society has taught people to do that, that doesn't make it right. The purpose for women to have the assets they have are to feed babies. Saying "oh, well that's just how society sees THOSE parts" isn't doing anything to stop the oversexualisation of a persons body, particularly items on a women.

But this post, and the poster and pretty much everyone else on this tread are so quick to criticise and undermine what women are wearing, but haven't once done it about men.

Who are we though to determine what items of clothing people find comfortable? Some people may prefer jeans over leggings, or jumpers over crop tops. And let me tell you, wearing a bra in heat is the most uncomfortable experience. It's not nice, at all. Oversexualising someones body is not a social norm that should be followed, it's entirely inappropriate. I agree, that people should perhaps consider that they are going to be in view of young children and should perhaps consider what they are wearing, but it's not normal to sexualise a body part because someone has it on display even the slightest bit. And it's not the fault of the person wearing the clothing, either.
Hayley, in an idealized world, you're right. However, within the realities of our current culture, what you are proposing simply isn't going to be a realistic expectation anytime soon. That isn't to say that things won't change in the future, but cultural change is slow and rarely happens in giant leaps. Social mores regarding the sexualization of particular body parts has evolved over the years and will likely continue to do so. One only has to look at the difference in acceptable clothing from the beginning of the 20th Century to today. However, you aren't going to accomplish anything by trying to high-road people in order to further your objective. The simple fact is that, for now, the vast majority of people today do view the exposure of female upper parts (the filter won't let me use their actual name. Sigh.) and buttocks as something related to sex. There's nothing wrong with slowly and methodically moving the needle, but we exist in the present and people should not be shamed for not agreeing with what you would like to be the norm in the future.

We have seen, to our detriment, the results of people attempting to force their social, political, and religious views on others. Effective change can only take place in an environment of compromise and finding common ground. It's certainly more difficult than digging in one's heels and using outrage to try and force the opposing side into submission in order to achieve a quick and easy "win," but it ultimately causes larger rifts and stratification.

I respect your views and wholeheartedly accept that you feel strongly about them, so please take this response in the spirit in which it was written, which is from a desire for understanding and communication, even if a solution that is 100% acceptable to all viewpoints isn't possible. I would love to see a world where sexual attitudes are not a factor and, perhaps, someday we will. For now, I truly believe that the most-effective way for everyone to get along is for both sides to show some restraint. My attitudes towards women (and a lot of things) have definitely evolved in my time on this planet and I fully expect that to continue. All I ask of my fellow human beings is that they afford others the same courtesy of being willing to compromise and understand others' points of view.
 
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larryz

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I would go even further and say that the reason children think that showing or seeing certain body parts are bad is because they are taught that they are bad. Sorry, we are not born thinking that this is bad, it is taught.
Is it "bad" as much as it is "private"? Telling someone they shouldn't flaunt their ... body parts ... because they're "private" isn't the same thing as saying they're "bad."
 

Chef Mickey

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But the only reason why these areas are "traditionally sexualised" is because society has taught people to do that, that doesn't make it right. The purpose for women to have the assets they have are to feed babies. Saying "oh, well that's just how society sees THOSE parts" isn't doing anything to stop the oversexualisation of a persons body, particularly items on a women.

But this post, and the poster and pretty much everyone else on this tread are so quick to criticise and undermine what women are wearing, but haven't once done it about men.

Who are we though to determine what items of clothing people find comfortable? Some people may prefer jeans over leggings, or jumpers over crop tops. And let me tell you, wearing a bra in heat is the most uncomfortable experience. It's not nice, at all. Oversexualising someones body is not a social norm that should be followed, it's entirely inappropriate. I agree, that people should perhaps consider that they are going to be in view of young children and should perhaps consider what they are wearing, but it's not normal to sexualise a body part because someone has it on display even the slightest bit. And it's not the fault of the person wearing the clothing, either.
You're living in Wonderland if you think you can combat sexualized body parts. People are genetically programmed to seek out an ideal mate and males probably moreso than females.. Flaunting your assets that show you're an ideal mate will have said impact.

I'd argue the social norms of "society" today have made women much safer and insulated from the male sexual advances. We don't need to talk about how things were before "society" existed, but you can use your imagination.
 

Hockey89

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Ok...maybe im a prude and just want to rant but........There were MULTIPLE instances where people were wearing inappropriate clothes. When I say butt cheeks hanging out im not exaggerating. One woman was escorted from epcot because of the outfit she was wearing was EXTREMELY revealing. I just don't know what some people are thinking...its like they didn't know they were going to Disneyworld when they woke up. They were dressed more for a day club scene...it was weird.

**End rant**
Between the outfits and the level of obesity it is pretty eye opening...
 

jloucks

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You're living in Wonderland if you think you can combat sexualized body parts. People are genetically programmed to seek out an ideal mate and males probably moreso than females.. Flaunting your assets that show you're an ideal mate will have said impact.

I'd argue the social norms of "society" today have made women much safer and insulated from the male sexual advances. We don't need to talk about how things were before "society" existed, but you can use your imagination.

Oh, females too. Possibly more so. At least, more complicatedly. They just look for different things. Guys look at posteriors, girls look at bank accounts. The super savvy women also look at potential. Now, I am not saying that potential is the only factor! Just saying it is a factor.

My point being, women cannot claim a moral superiority here just based on men being more visual. ...and less strategic.

Ironically, women not wanting men to be visual really raises the bar on what constitutes an ideal mate. I dunno, maybe raising the bar is a good thing? Probably a good thing. Definitely a good thing.
 

Zipadeelady

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I cannot deal with how judgmental people can be. I mean, if it's against Disney's dress policy then fair enough BUT people are perfectly entitled to wear whatever the hell they want without someone looking down their nose at them. If people want to wear black with black, then let them. If people wanna wear booty shorts, they can do. It has no impact on your life whatsoever. I notice this thread is predominantly judging how women dress, too. If you don't like it, don't look. Stop wasting your time and energy dragging other people down for their choice in clothing. It's not our fault that people can't look at our bodies without sexualising them.
It's mainly referring to woman because I've never seen a man wearing only pasties on his nipples and half his @$$ hanging out of his shorts, so i don't think anyone can pull the demoralizing women argument. Also, If someone is going to wear these items of clothing people are going to stare. You can't help but stare regardless if the person wearing the clothes wants you to stare or not.
 

plutofan15

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It's mainly referring to woman because I've never seen a man wearing only pasties on his nipples and half his @$$ hanging out of his shorts, so i don't think anyone can pull the demoralizing women argument. Also, If someone is going to wear these items of clothing people are going to stare. You can't help but stare regardless if the person wearing the clothes wants you to stare or not.

I guess you have never been to Provincetown out on Cape Cod. :oops:
 

Zipadeelady

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I guess you have never been to Provincetown out on Cape Cod. :oops:
Nope never heard of that either.

Never been to a Rave, New Orleans, LA, any transvestite runway shows, brokeback mountain. Ok, now I'm just being horrible and I apologize. Before anyone tears me apart I have the belief of "I'll be me, you be you." and I'm ok with that.
 
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LUVofDIS

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Is it "bad" as much as it is "private"? Telling someone they shouldn't flaunt their ... body parts ... because they're "private" isn't the same thing as saying they're "bad."

True, but private or even bad for that matter is a matter of opinion, back in the Victorian days, one couldn't even say chicken thigh or chicken breast. Each society or religion has had and still has an opinion on what is too much or too little.

You're living in Wonderland if you think you can combat sexualized body parts. People are genetically programmed to seek out an ideal mate and males probably moreso than females.. Flaunting your assets that show you're an ideal mate will have said impact."

This is true to a point, I remember visiting a resort in Mexico that was filled with mostly German visitors years ago, almost all women and men for that matter, including girls of all ages were topless. It didn't seem everyone was ogling each other.

That doesn't mean we don't see each others sexuality, we are after all sexual beings, our future counts on it. But it doesn't take nudity or scant dress to view someone in a sexual way.

Also if you are in any public setting people can will stare. My wife and I noticed this when we went to a tree canopy walk just last weekend, and we were fully dressed. Couldn't figure out why people were staring but they were. I didn't feel uncomfortable, I would just stare back. But in reality, its not illegal to stare and for that matter, at least in the USA, you can even take pictures.

No matter how one dresses, looks or acts, that never gives anyone the right to act upon whatever sexual urge one has if the other party has not given you the okay to do so. That would be what would separate us from the wild animal or times before societies' were on the scene.[/QUOTE]
 

Raineman

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I have to raise a complaint with WDW management-I've seen this young lady at WDW, and that skirt is waaaay too revealing....;)
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Jedi Stitch

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Yes there are some Disney Divas out there. I had seen some this August at Disneyland. I am now a dad to a teenage girl, and What I thought was cool before, now I have to say, I wouldn't let my daughter wear.
 

Mickey shaped world

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For me the worst thing is when people wear clothing that doesn't fit right e.g. tshirt rolling up or trousers hanging down. Especially if they brush past you and you feel something wet and you hope it has just been raining.
 
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