DHS What should they do with Animation Courtyard?

Nland316

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And I'll see you at the KH easter egg they'll have at Villains Land.
What’s funny… I had heard about a KH project in development back in 2019 for Tokyo. No other details were told beyond that. I don’t really chat with that source anymore, and I’m sure it’s had many different lives at this point so it wouldn’t surprise me if this plan surfaced in some capacity..
 

SoraTrash

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What’s funny… I had heard about a KH project in development back in 2019 for Tokyo. No other details were told beyond that. I don’t really chat with that source anymore, and I’m sure it’s had many different lives at this point so it wouldn’t surprise me if this plan surfaced in some capacity..
I think I’ve also heard something similar. Would have been something to do with their Star Tours (considering it’s unpopularity and Star Wars in general over at TDR)
 

Bocabear

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There is also nothing wrong with having 4 parks and allowing one to remain classic Disney (MK) without needing to add newer movie franchises and Pixar....When there is another park embracing the Pixar IP catalog.
 

The Leader of the Club

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There is also nothing wrong with having 4 parks and allowing one to remain classic Disney (MK) without needing to add newer movie franchises and Pixar....When there is another park embracing the Pixar IP catalog.
MK has had a PIXAR presence my whole life with Buzz Lightyear & eventually Monsters Inc. To people my age, those movies are Disney classics.
 

HMF

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There is also nothing wrong with having 4 parks and allowing one to remain classic Disney (MK) without needing to add newer movie franchises and Pixar....When there is another park embracing the Pixar IP catalog.
Never mind before the Toy Story abomination was built Pixar was beginning to have it's own dedicated land at DHS.
 

Bocabear

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Never mind before the Toy Story abomination was built Pixar was beginning to have it's own dedicated land at DHS.
Exactly... I was excited about that whole idea of a Pixar Land... Sad when it was just another re-tread of Toy Story Land based on Andy's back yard.... I would have been fine with them just having a coaster and then other rides based on other Pixar properties... And seriously the Alien Swirling Saucers should have been in indoor ride in outer space with special effects and a full complete Pizza Planet restaurant and dining room overlooking the ride and it's space-scape. It would have provided a new restaurant and a break from the heat...and for absolute sure, would have been a huge hit.
 

Ayla

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I get that it has some viewership on D+, but I can’t see the draw or a viable ride concept? Many of us here are theme park addicts, I can’t remember the last time I heard someone here or in my orbit “have to” go to USO to see the simpsons, or even talk about the show. An earlier poster equated it to the Muppets in its waning popularity, that feels right. Not sure what generation will respond in a way that justifies a large invest in this at DHS. I am less confident that Iger will do it correctly. BTW, I loved the Simpsons from the beginning. It just doesn’t feel right when there is so much untapped IP that could use that valuable space
I loved the Simpson's when they first came out ~ when I was in 8th grade in 1989. I turn 51 in about six weeks. They are way past their prime.
 

The Leader of the Club

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I loved the Simpson's when they first came out ~ when I was in 8th grade in 1989. I turn 51 in about six weeks. They are way past their prime.
I think the question that companies are going to have to ask themselves is “which IPs actually can be relevant when the original creatives are no longer involved?”

For instance, I don’t think anyone is going to say that Mickey Mouse, Winnie the Pooh, or Spider-Man are outdated franchises that don’t belong in the parks. Those characters have shown that they can maintain popularity over five-plus decades in the hands of many different creatives.

The Simpsons seems to primarily be coasting off the goodwill fans have for episodes released 30 years ago. I’d wager that most people who identify as Simpsons fans today don’t regularly watch past season 10. They haven’t had to recast many popular characters or get audiences invested in rebooted/retooled versions of these characters. That will be the make or break moment for the Simpsons.
 

Ayla

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I think the question that companies are going to have to ask themselves is “which IPs actually can be relevant when the original creatives are no longer involved?”

For instance, I don’t think anyone is going to say that Mickey Mouse, Winnie the Pooh, or Spider-Man are outdated franchises that don’t belong in the parks. Those characters have shown that they can maintain popularity over five-plus decades in the hands of many different creatives.

The Simpsons seems to primarily be coasting off the goodwill fans have for episodes released 30 years ago. I’d wager that most people who identify as Simpsons fans today don’t regularly watch past season 10. They haven’t had to recast many popular characters or get audiences invested in rebooted/retooled versions of these characters. That will be the make or break moment for the Simpsons.
Agreed and good points.
 

RSoxNo1

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He was right. It also didn’t need another track of Disney’s awful Wii game.
The TSMM and Soarin' extra capacity were welcome additions, but they're less necessary today.
I’ve heard that one short-term concept here is to replace Launch Bay with …

Stop me if you’ve heard this before


… a series of walk-thru exhibits about Disney animation.

Which, okay, is relatively straightforward and inexpensive. They could use it to promote tons of upcoming projects. Meets the synergy goal.

If that’s the case, I think they should play it like a “buddy movie”. Cast a comedian who doesn’t understand animation and someone really strait-laced to explain it. I’m pretty sure I could have a script ready in a couple hours.
I know you're making a joke at the end here, but I would think a Blue Sky Cellar concept could work if they're going to be keeping the building for the short term.
 

RSoxNo1

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@TrainsOfDisney put it best. The Simpsons just doesn't feel like a good fit for a Disney park. Even at its funniest it's crude, edgy, and snide. It's the same reason why I'd be horrified at the thought of them putting a Family Guy attraction in the parks.

And I just know what they're gonna do for the Simpsons attraction. It's gonna be a ride version of those awful shorts on Disney Plus - you know, the painfully unfunny ones where the Simpsons interact with poorly-drawn, wrong-sounding versions of Disney characters? The ones that think they are so smart and clever and are wrong? Those shorts?
When spitballing ideas for a 5th gate, the idea I kept coming back to was the general concept of family, however anyone wants to define that. I saw it as a broad enough concept to include IPs that might be a poor fit elsewhere in WDW.

I won't get into the other concepts for the park, but one of the land concepts I came up with was "The Global Neighborhood". Think of it like the old Residential Street where you could see houses from different geographic locations next to each other. It would be a concept like that could work for The Simpsons.

Any Simpsons land would be compared to the Universal predecessors and realistically speaking, the Simpsons heyday has likely passed.
I feel like if Zootopia 2 does a billion the conversation will swing back that way. A Simpsons ride somewhere in the park…I guess if they have to. But please not an entire land.

With DHS getting Monsters Inc and a new RnRC version I would rather they take their time with AC and wait for the best option. In the meantime, why not a Bluey show where Disney Jr is and maybe a Simpons meet and greet in Launch Bay.

Zootopia is more likely I feel but I also think another IP or IPs thematically linked up with Mermaid is the better play.

Toontown Wharf anyone?
@lentesta has indicated that a project has already been approved. With that in mind, part of me is hoping that the choice has already been made for Zootopia. If the choice isn't Zootopia, then it means if Zootopia 2 is as popular as the first movie, it's most assuredly coming to WDW and somewhere other than DHS.

I don't love the "Crayola" style of land, especially so close to Toy Story Land, but Zootopia is a very fun franchise. I also hope that if it is Zootopia, they have a different ride concept than Shanghai. That's way too close in execution to Runaway Railway.
 

lentesta

Premium Member
@lentesta has indicated that a project has already been approved. With that in mind, part of me is hoping that the choice has already been made for Zootopia. If the choice isn't Zootopia, then it means if Zootopia 2 is as popular as the first movie, it's most assuredly coming to WDW and somewhere other than DHS.

In all the things I've heard for AC, none were related to Zootopia.
 

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