What if Disney went dry......

["El Gran Magnifico"]

They are in the minority but talked about the most as they cause the majority of the problems. Tipsy or buzzed? Probably not cut them off unless they are crossing the line. In a park its harder to remove them from the premises as its a big park, just removing them form the BaseLine Tap House or similar doesn't really solve the problem, they need to be ejected from the park.
Disney and alcohol in the parks needs to be treated more like alcohol at a sporting event park. With just plain more security to escort troublemakers out , knowing that increased alcohol sales means more drunks to deal with period. They will go hand in hand.

I agree with that. The troublemakers (who are only troublemakers when they are drunk) should be removed.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

I'm not the most frequent of visitors, but is the drinking really causing severe problems? The worst I've seen is one person puking once. Some people at Epcot were maybe a little rowdier and louder than your average guest, but they were far less disruptive than those infamous Brazilian tour groups.

I'm not a drinker, but I can't say that drinkers at Disney World have ever particularly annoyed me. But I'm just one person...

Not really severe. Depending on the time of year and festival. For some reason F&W (specifically on weekends) brings out the "Drinking Teams". They can be loud, obnoxious, and irritating while they're in the process of getting drunk. Once they achieve their objective a quarter of them get more annoying, a quarter of them pass out, a quarter are kicked out, and a quarter of them are trying to stay sober because they are driving. Most of the "Drinking Teams" are local, or are from Florida.

Ohhh.. And they wear matching shirts (uniforms).

 

[Tony the Tigger]

In Ontario they measure drinks. DUI carries a heavy penalty. Heck, a DUI can keep an American out of Canada. If we're going to put that kind of standard on it - everyone would be limited to 1 drink at Disney.

Again, I don't disagree with your premise. If somebody stumbles up to a kiosk/bar at Disney - with bloodshot eyes, and murmurs "Letme haaave anoder bbbeer" and has to position themselves against the counter while ordering - Got it. They shouldn't be served. But those types are in the minority, although they are the ones who are talked about the most. There are a lot who could be classified as "tipsy" or "buzzed". Do you cut them off?

That is addressed in regular training with every bartender, including those at a hole in the wall making a lot less than $12/hr base pay.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

That is addressed in regular training with every bartender, including those at a hole in the wall making a lot less than $12/hr base pay.

Most dives I go to "free pour" - training doesn't work here.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Most dives I go to "free pour" - training doesn't work here.

There’s nothing wrong with free pouring. That has nothing to do with anything.

The bartender has to observe the person they are serving, and determine whether or not to continue serving. I’ve politely cut off plenty of people in my day, and they don’t typically escalate if you do it correctly.

 

[Heppenheimer]

Not really severe. Depending on the time of year and festival. For some reason F&W (specifically on weekends) brings out the "Drinking Teams". They can be loud, obnoxious, and irritating while they're in the process of getting drunk. Once they achieve their objective a quarter of them get more annoying, a quarter of them pass out, a quarter are kicked out, and a quarter of them are trying to stay sober because they are driving. Most of the "Drinking Teams" are local, or are from Florida.

Ohhh.. And they wear matching shirts (uniforms).

Matching shirts? So, more like the Brazilian tour groups than I thought.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

and they don’t typically escalate if you do it correctly

No. They don't. They just go to another bartender/another bar. Question. How many cutoffs did you do on the first drink?

 

[Lilofan]

Not really severe. Depending on the time of year and festival. For some reason F&W (specifically on weekends) brings out the "Drinking Teams". They can be loud, obnoxious, and irritating while they're in the process of getting drunk. Once they achieve their objective a quarter of them get more annoying, a quarter of them pass out, a quarter are kicked out, and a quarter of them are trying to stay sober because they are driving. Most of the "Drinking Teams" are local, or are from Florida.

Ohhh.. And they wear matching shirts (uniforms).

Alex Morgan from the U.S. womens national soccer team and her drunken group made quite a scene at Epcot/UK which made local and national news.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Plenty. That’s a typical scenario later in the evening. We will also tell each other and/or a manager so the whole bar (if it’s a multiple bar establishment) knows. Many people are locals and regulars, and we all know how they behave. There are plenty of over-indulging tourists as well, it’s Florida.

Sometimes we will alert nearby bars if it’s bad enough.

One place I worked, one of the first things I learned was it was OK to cut off the owner; he expects it and you won’t get fired. That happened routinely. Sometimes he’d go home (never driving.) Sometimes we’d have to go collect him from another bar.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

Alex Morgan from the U.S. womens national soccer team and her drunken group made quite a scene at Epcot/UK which made local and national news.

I was there that day. Saw it. From a distance. Didn't know what happened until the next day. Then said: "Huh? Did she have a Drinking Team T-Shirt"

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

One place I worked, one of the first things I learned was it was OK to cut off the owner; he expects it and you won’t get fired. That happened routinely. Sometimes he’d go home (never driving.) Sometimes we’d have to go collect him from another bar.

You ever work in Deerfield Beach? Sounds like a place I used to frequent.

 

[Scooter]

I never liked seeing adults drunk when I was a child so if it were up to me, anywhere alcohol is served, children would not be allowed. If everyone knew how to maintain when they drank it would be different but there will always be those people who drink to excess and when they do, I, personally, would not want children around to witness their behavior.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

You ever work in Deerfield Beach? Sounds like a place I used to frequent.

Nope. Fort Lauderdale/Wilton Manors.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

I never liked seeing adults drunk when I was a child so if it were up to me, anywhere alcohol is served, children would not be allowed. If everyone knew how to maintain when they drank it would be different but there will always be those people who drink to excess and when they do, I, personally, would not want children around to witness their behavior.

I can't fault that. It's very noble. I don't like to see 300lb people eating fried chicken. Don't want children to witness that either. So personally, what behavior is acceptable for you?

 

[Scooter]

I can't fault that. It's very noble. I don't like to see 300lb people eating fried chicken. Don't want children to witness that either. So personally, what behavior is acceptable for you?

People don't fight, swear or puke, when they eat, no matter what size they are, but some do when they're intoxicated. Apples and oranges.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

People don't fight, swear or puke, when they eat

Yes they do. I've seen it. The individual who has overeaten to the point they are extremely irritable. Or the individual who hasn't eaten yet that is extremely irritable. I'll leave the puking after eating comment alone 'cause there may be more issues there - but that absolutely happens.

You're saying fighting is exclusive to those that drink?

I drink. Actually enjoying a Balvenie at the moment. Not a drunk. Don't get drunk. Never fight. Occasionally swear. Very rarely puke.

 

[FettFan]

Dry as in no alcohol! Obviously this isnt a proposal, petition, or soapbox (I enjoy a nice beer or cocktail) but how would you feel IF it did happen. The reason I ask is that over the last 5-10 years, drinking has found a way into many facets of the parks. Of course there has always been wine and beer with meals, the WS, and later Food and Wine, etc etc but this past trip around Christmas left my jaw open. I mean I like a beer and trying new craft beers whenever I can but it seemed like Epcot had a temporary beer, wine, or liquor booth every 50 yards. IMO it’s too much of a good thing and feels totally forced.
So if Disney were to reverse roles and pull alcohol from the parks, I personally wouldn’t miss it. Of course a simpler pairing back is preferred so it wouldnt be so in your face, but I could live without. I’m just curious how people would see the parks without the option to drink.
Hope everyone is off to a good weekend!
Matt

I wouldn’t mind it. In a perfect world, the only alcohol served would be at the resort lounges and Disney Springs restaurants during their 18+ hours.

For the life of me, I don’t know why people would be going for alcohol in the middle of the parks in the first place; liquor dehydrates you, and it works twice as fast in the heat of central Florida.

 

[FettFan]

Yes they do. I've seen it. The individual who has overeaten to the point they are extremely irritable. Or the individual who hasn't eaten yet that is extremely irritable. I'll leave the puking after eating comment alone 'cause there may be more issues there - but that absolutely happens.

It’s especially bad when they just plain explode all over the place.

 

[mf1972]

i’ve read comments here in the past of people witnessing someone who’s drunk in disney, & consider myself lucky enough to never have witnessed it myself. but i highly doubt we’ll ever see the parks go dry. just from a revenue standpoint.

 

[NickMaio]

In Ontario they measure drinks. DUI carries a heavy penalty. Heck, a DUI can keep an American out of Canada. If we're going to put that kind of standard on it - everyone would be limited to 1 drink at Disney.

Again, I don't disagree with your premise. If somebody stumbles up to a kiosk/bar at Disney - with bloodshot eyes, and murmurs "Letme haaave anoder bbbeer" and has to position themselves against the counter while ordering - Got it. They shouldn't be served. But those types are in the minority, although they are the ones who are talked about the most. There are a lot who could be classified as "tipsy" or "buzzed". Do you cut them off?

Measuring drinks is not really what is done here.
For example, if someone goes into a bar or a retail location to purchase alcohol and they are visibly drunk, stumbling, slurping, smells of alcohol already they are not served but turned away.
I have seen enough people who fit this description at WDW over the years to know they should have not been served another drink at the park or bar.