What happened to people?

Jumping Fountains

Active Member
The price of the vacation accompanied by a complicated queuing system that rewards you for getting up before 7AM that costs money is a big factor. Further, ALL queuing systems, going back to fastpass, have changed the psychology of going to the parks. Everything besides rides is devalued to such a degree that only rides are of value. Disney’s own vacation systems reinforce this! Now, these new systems of organization may be necessary due to the increase in crowds and the extraordinarily long period without a new gate to spread them out, but they have changed the mind set of a park visit completely.

On a recent visit, I got together with an old friend who is local. He goes to WDW for a few days every 5 years or so. We went to the parks together in HS a lot (85-88). He wanted to go to the HoP, PotC, and HM. He joined our group at BoG since he wanted to see what the food was like. I got him in our boarding group for Tron, but his interest was less than minimal. Mostly we just walked around, shared memories, and laughed. It helped me realize what a rat race WDW had become. I’ve been in MK many times over a period of time that could be described as 5 decades. All these vacation planning “tools” push me towards a theme park commando mindset and I’m faaar more resistant to it than a once in a lifetime vacationer. The current vacation structure coupled with the cost has definitely had an impact on guest behavior, IMO.
“Everything besides rides is devalued to such a degree that only rides are of value” really resonates with me. I do feel like an investing in entertainment/streetsmophere and such would pay such dividends in terms of improving the overall experience as a guest again. Also the debundling or addition of costs really does seem to make things so fraught - as someone said, it basically makes the stakes way too high for rope drop or things as petty as positioning in the (inevitable…often multiple) pre-show areas of rides.
 

Dead2009

Horror Movie Guru
Splitting it between both parties...

People
  • Social Media - people care more about showing off they are at WDW, versus living in the moment. Take a pic of the castle, post it, put your phone away and enjoy the day.
  • Cost - with how expensive it becomes, people have become more aggressive/selfish of making sure that THEY and their family's experience matches expectations, and NOBODY will get in their way
  • The "Insiders/Locals" - I'm sure some of you on here have done it, but there's a big culture of "showing off" that you know the parks by reciting lyrics/spiels or speeding through the GOTG queue... nobody cares lol

Disney
  • Biggest Issue: lack of capacity. People can justify increased prices when combined with additional expansions/investment into the parks
  • The pressure to have a "perfect day" by having everything planned in advance along with justifying the price
  • (partially People's fault) LL to Standby Ratios - wait-times are expected, but seeing waves of LL users be prioritized at the ridiculous ratios they've been using can be mentally depleting at times
  • Attraction Downtime - Spending thousands of dollars to experience the parks, only to find some experiences down for tech issues is poor guest experience.

Mind you, 95% of the people at any given time are having fun, but there's certainly a decent amount of folks you can tell are just not having it lol

But I need to ride the Carousel of Progress and then sing the song over and over in the Space Mountain queue.
 

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