What does "The Little Mermaid" have to do with California?

[LittleMerman]

It’s been explained already, I see.

Contradiction is at least two statements that conflict and so far, nobody has shown me two of my statements that oppose each other. If someone can do that, I can see what they're talking about and either clarify or stand corrected, but no one has been able to do so.

 

[Disney Analyst]

The real question is… when do they add a Coco inspired spook house?

 

[Californian Elitist]

Contradiction is at least two statements that conflict and so far, nobody has shown me two of my statements that oppose each other. If someone can do that, I can see what they're talking about and either clarify or stand corrected, but no one has been able to do so.

@lazyboy showed you already. Maybe you missed it?

Anyways, I’m moving on.

 

[LittleMerman]

@lazyboy showed you already. Maybe you missed it?

Anyways, I’m moving on.

Nope. As I proved, he did not.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Nope. As I proved, he did not.

You just say “Nope” doesn’t clarify anything. Obviously multiple people find your statements confusing.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Nope. As I proved, he did not.

You proved nothing, but I’ll explain it, since you don’t get it. Then I’ll really be done.

You advocate for “loose,” less strict placement, but also desire good storytelling. That’s one contradiction. Additionally, on top of the “looseness,” you think there should be more storytelling to “tie it together.” How can something be both loose and tied together? That’s two. If something that’s “loose” requires more storytelling and more work, then, logically, wouldn’t it be better for it to not be loose so you wouldn’t have to jump through hoops to make it make sense? That’s not a contradiction, that’s just an observation.

If you choose to still not see your own contradictions, oh well.

 

[flynnibus]

That's not an example of what contradiction means.

This is you right now ...

 

[chadwpalm]

I don't think I ever remember thinking, "This undersea adventure doesn't fit will with a waterfront pier setting." or "Ariel isn't from California, this is dumb."

Yeah, Pixar Pier muddied things up a bit, but it's still a pier setting. Also, they kept the Palace of Fine Arts theme and overall S.F. theme in that area which will eventually bleed into San Fransokyo in the coming year.

That's my 2 cents after pages of arguing.

 

[LittleMerman]

You proved nothing, but I’ll explain it, since you don’t get it. Then I’ll really be done.

You advocate for “loose,” less strict placement, but also desire good storytelling. That’s one contradiction. Additionally, on top of the “looseness,” you think there should be more storytelling to “tie it together.” How can something be both loose and tied together? That’s two. If something that’s “loose” requires more storytelling and more work, then, logically, wouldn’t it be better for it to not be loose so you wouldn’t have to jump through hoops to make it make sense? That’s not a contradiction, that’s just an observation.

If you choose to still not see your own contradictions, oh well.

I actually did, but I see what I'm dealing with and I'm not surprised that you still don't understand.

Your first point - Things can have loose placement with good storytelling. Disney does it all the time. That's not what "contradiction" means. Again, if you want to copy/paste my statements that actually contradict each other, then we can talk. Otherwise, you tried.

Your second point was just re-wording your first point.

To your third point - that doesn't always happen though. That's been the point in this thread for a while now. Keep up.

You just say “Nope” doesn’t clarify anything. Obviously multiple people find your statements confusing.

I’m typing in English and in laymen’s terms given the nature of this board. I don’t have all day to continue explaining basic ideas, especially to people that use vocabulary incorrectly and blatantly misinterpret very straightforward statements. I’m beating a dead, very simple horse.

I’m flattered that you're both so worried about my opinions but we’re allowed to have different views and ideas. I’m not going to continue to go back-and-forth because it's pointless. I’ve said my opinion because that’s what we do here and I’ve said how I feel. If you can't grasp simple ideas, that's on you. Deal with it.

 

[LittleMerman]

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There's only one definition of "contradiction" that applies here and unless someone can prove their point, they shouldn't make claims they can't back up.

 

[LittleMerman]

I don't think I ever remember thinking, "This undersea adventure doesn't fit will with a waterfront pier setting." or "Ariel isn't from California, this is dumb."

Yeah, Pixar Pier muddied things up a bit, but it's still a pier setting. Also, they kept the Palace of Fine Arts theme and overall S.F. theme in that area which will eventually bleed into San Fransokyo in the coming year.

That's my 2 cents after pages of arguing.

This.

 

[BubbaisSleep]

I thought there was a storyline about how Neil Patrick Harris's made up character purchased the pier. Similar to Santa Cruz Boardwalk, Coney Island, and other piers, there are going to be random Disney themed rides around the bay. All that is lost now that it's Pixar Pier which divided the land poorly.

I don't think I ever remember thinking, "This undersea adventure doesn't fit will with a waterfront pier setting." or "Ariel isn't from California, this is dumb."

Yeah, Pixar Pier muddied things up a bit, but it's still a pier setting. Also, they kept the Palace of Fine Arts theme and overall S.F. theme in that area which will eventually bleed into San Fransokyo in the coming year.

That's my 2 cents after pages of arguing.

My exact thoughts, especially being someone who visits Santa Cruz Boardwalk a lot, the loose theme was very clear to me from the beginning. Pixar Pier of course broke up the land so now we have a non-Pixar related boardwalk and Mickey on a Pixar Ferris wheel, but it’s still same pier concept.


Also, wasn’t Neil Patrick Harris this made up character that bought the pier to build Disney themed rides or something similar after the original revamp. He even had voice recordings on some of the rides.

 

[flynnibus]

There's only one definition of "contradiction" that applies here and unless someone can prove their point, they shouldn't make claims they can't back up.

You keep saying prove it - it's already been highlighted.

The fact you don't accept it means you don't even understand the contradiction and the problem isn't needing a cite, but your comprehension.... or you will just deny and argue till you are blue in the face.

I recommend you drop it and move on. Your hole is kinda insurmountable at this point.

 

[LittleMerman]

You keep saying prove it - it's already been highlighted.

The fact you don't accept it means you don't even understand the contradiction and the problem isn't needing a cite, but your comprehension.... or you will just deny and argue till you are blue in the face.

I recommend you drop it and move on. Your hole is kinda insurmountable at this point.

Prove it.

 

[LittleMerman]

You just say “Nope” doesn’t clarify anything. Obviously multiple people find your statements confusing.

Lazy?

 

[Consumer]

Paradise Pier is like Rome. You have the Kingdom of Rome which was bad (2001-2008), the Roman Republic which were the golden years (2008-2016), and now the Roman Empire which has been split by Diocletian.

 

[flynnibus]

Prove it.

I can't force the horse to drink....

 

[lazyboy97o]

Lazy ?

Keeping it classy.

 

[DLR92]

The Little Mermaid get a pass because how it was shoehorn as a Dark ride take of a fairytale folklore for a Pier! It took Disney many years to realize they can shoehorn in the Little Mermaid in the Pier at DCA than wait for a time for a space for Disneyland.

 

[TwilightZone]

Honestly they need to rebrand DCA to Disney Adventure and call it a day. I doubt many would be upset (unless they also announce on the same day they're retheming Soarin' to Planes or something).