lazyboy97o
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A collection of great rides is an amusement park. It’s the storytelling at the land and park level, which you keep dismissing, that really defines the theme park as a distinct experience.
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What does "The Little Mermaid" have to do with California?
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Suspirian
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I'ev said it before but I think TLM is within the class of disney attractions/etc where the facade and loose theme connection is essentially what makes it fit in it's land regardless of where/when the IP itself takes place. These are examples of that as well.
I'll be honest though, I think TLM's facade could be better. I like this concept of it much more than what we ended up with. I still think it's a good way for IPs to be included in a park like DCA if they must. I've definitely seen many fan-made blue sky ideas of attractions to include in DCA that use this same method of introducing certain IPs into the park.
I'll be honest though, I think TLM's facade could be better. I like this concept of it much more than what we ended up with. I still think it's a good way for IPs to be included in a park like DCA if they must. I've definitely seen many fan-made blue sky ideas of attractions to include in DCA that use this same method of introducing certain IPs into the park.
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LittleMerman
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So Hollywood Studios and Epic Universe are amusement parks?
I'm not dismissing it. I'm saying that there can be looser ties from attractions to lands that still work and visitors still enjoy them without having a meltdown about their placement.
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lazyboy97o
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Those parks have lands. Epic Universe in particular is going hyper focused on the lands, to the point that you can’t even walk between them. It is not what you seem to think.
You are dismissing it. Those ties between attractions and lands are the storytelling. That being looser means focusing less on storytelling. Whether or not people enjoy them is rather irrelevant. People enjoy amusement parks.
LittleMerman
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No one is talking about attractions not being in lands. And a "looser tie" doesn't mean an absence of storytelling. In fact, it means that it would will need even more storytelling to tie it together.
lazyboy97o
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If you’re tying everything together then the connections are no longer loose. Your constant contradicting suggests that at some level you recognize that what you claim to want isn’t actually a great theme park strategy.
Californian Elitist
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Therefore, a “looser tie” doesn’t work, since it would weaken the storytelling.
That’s what we’ve been saying.
LittleMerman
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How am I contradicting myself?
Galaxy's Edge and Toy Story Land have practically zero ties to Hollywood and there are no storylines as to why they're there - but people are enjoying them and Hollywood Studios is one of the most popular (if not #1) parks in WDW. Do you not visit those lands because they don't fit thematically into the park or do you enjoy them for what they are? If Disney committed to building them, they had to go somewhere, and there were many reasons why they landed on HS, even if they didn't technically "belong" there bc of HS's theme.
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LittleMerman
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It's worked for Hollywood Studios and other random attractions in lands where they "don't belong," and I bet it'll work in Fantasy Springs.
Sharon&Susan
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Being the 4th most popular park out of a resort that has four parks isn't as impressive as you think it is.
Californian Elitist
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You keep contradicting yourself.
Hollywood Studios likely isn’t a good example to use.
Centauri Space Station
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They are Hollywood ips so they fit. Id say SWL works at DHS more than DL, but DHS and DCA are pretty loose with themes
LittleMerman
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Maybe not. I said that based on reservation availability. But Galaxy's Edge and Toy Story Land are popular and have some of the most popular rides in WDW and most people don't care that they're not tied to Hollywood Studios' theme.
LittleMerman
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How am I contradicting myself?
LittleMerman
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Because they were produced in Hollywood, CA? That's a big stretch. Pretty much every Disney/Pixar/Marvel/Star Wars IP is a "Hollywood IP" but not every IP makes sense to have a land in HS.
lazyboy97o
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Saying things will be loose and connected is a contradiction.
At this point I’m not even sure you really know what point you are even trying to make. Now you’re trying to claim that Disney’s Hollywood Studios is the most popular park at Walt Disney World. You’re at the point that you’re making up things that are ridiculously implausible.
Is this another Islands of Adventure situation where you think the park is specifically about the neighborhood in Los Angeles?
LittleMerman
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That doesn't make sense and I never said that. Tell me specifically what I said that contradicts itself if you're going to make that claim.
I'm confident that you're not sure.
That's clearly not at all what I was saying but I'm not surprised that's what you took from it.
lazyboy97o
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Right here. This is a contradiction.
You just keep digging. Are you aware of the TEA/AECOM Theme Index? Capacity of a theme park is determined by attraction capacity and Disney’s Hollywood Studios simply doesn’t have the physical space to be the most popular park at Walt Disney World without a cataclysmic drop in visitation to the Magic Kingdom.
Then what are you trying to say? You keep saying nobody understands your point.
LittleMerman
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That's not an example of what contradiction means.
Okay?
And I'm not familiar but it sounds like you spend a lot of time consumed with it. Enjoy.
Californian Elitist
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It’s been explained already, I see.