What do you think we can attribute to the negative happenings recently at the World?

EaglesfanNJ

Active Member
Original Poster
There have been an unusual number of negative occurences at the World the past few months. Why do you think this is? The unfortunate Monorail accident, the Pirate tutorial accident, the parade float jack-knife, the bus accidents etc. Do you think as a result of the economy and the CM cutbacks, are remaining CM's overextending themselves? Do you think it's just a series of unfortunate accidents and just coincidence they happened so close to each other?:shrug:
 

SirGoofy

Member
The answer is simple....











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CAPTAIN HOOK

Well-Known Member
They are what you say - accidents, tragic and unfortunate.

Disney will have a minimum staffing level to ensure safety operations - they wouldn't be able to operate with staff number below this level - the economy and staffing levels aren't to blame
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
I do not think that there is anything to it especially when you consider the size of WDW. WDW is really a small to medium size city with a guest and worker population pushing upwards of 200,000 or more people on an average day. If you were to use the population of 200,000 and compare WDW to the rest of the US you would expect to see......

8.5 murders per year
60 rapes per year
8250 deaths per year.
3 drownings per year

We do not see anywhere near those numbers at WDW. Traffic accidents and fatalities as well as trip and fall fatalities happen all the time. The only reason we are hearing about these are because they happened at Disney.
 

EPCOTPluto

Well-Known Member
There have been an unusual number of negative occurences at the World the past few months. Why do you think this is? The unfortunate Monorail accident, the Pirate tutorial accident, the parade float jack-knife, the bus accidents etc. Do you think as a result of the economy and the CM cutbacks, are remaining CM's overextending themselves? Do you think it's just a series of unfortunate accidents and just coincidence they happened so close to each other?:shrug:
2012. :lookaroun
 

daliseurat

Member
I do believe that many of these accidents were preventable and in the past would not have occurred. There have been many cutbacks. The monorail accident would never have happened few years ago because they had some other procedures in place that would have prevented it. But according to monorail drivers from that era, the procedures were changed to speed things up. We now have cast members who don't pay as close attention to what is needed. It only takes a few bad apples to cause multiple disasters. We live in a society where people barely do what they are expected to do. There is an lousy attitude, of "they don't pay me enough" or "that's not in my contract". WDW used to be different. I loved coming to WDW because the cast members went so far above and beyond my expectations. The last few years I see far fewer of those cast members, and far more of the same types of workers you might find at the local WalMart. It's sad, because there are still MANY, MANY fantastic cast members. But as I said, it only takes one mistake by someone not properly trained, or who isn't taking it seriously enough to cause a disaster.
 

SirGoofy

Member
I do believe that many of these accidents were preventable and in the past would not have occurred. There have been many cutbacks. The monorail accident would never have happened few years ago because they had some other procedures in place that would have prevented it. But according to monorail drivers from that era, the procedures were changed to speed things up. We now have cast members who don't pay as close attention to what is needed. It only takes a few bad apples to cause multiple disasters. We live in a society where people barely do what they are expected to do. There is an lousy attitude, of "they don't pay me enough" or "that's not in my contract". WDW used to be different. I loved coming to WDW because the cast members went so far above and beyond my expectations. The last few years I see far fewer of those cast members, and far more of the same types of workers you might find at the local WalMart. It's sad, because there are still MANY, MANY fantastic cast members. But as I said, it only takes one mistake by someone not properly trained, or who isn't taking it seriously enough to cause a disaster.

:rolleyes:

That's all I have to say about this post.
 

Lucky

Well-Known Member
The last few years I see far fewer of those cast members, and far more of the same types of workers you might find at the local WalMart. It's sad, because there are still MANY, MANY fantastic cast members.
Uh, oh. I hope Mr. Kline doesn't see this post.
 

EaglesfanNJ

Active Member
Original Poster
It's just a fluke, like if the Eagles won the Super Bowl.

:ROFLOL:I didn't see that one coming! Ravens fan perhaps?

Nah that's fine if i get flamed for even mentioning it, that kind of stuff does not bother me. I was simply throwing that out there as a minor possiblity. But to be honest, after reading MasterYoda's logic, his really makes much more sense to me know, hence why he's known as the Master! I guess it's just strange that in such a short time span, so many tragic events occured.
 

I_heart_Tigger

Well-Known Member
I think another contributing factor is that with cell phone cameras, blackberry's, internet sites (not to name any in particular) :lookaroun Facebook,. twitter and all the other ways to get information out that people are just hearing more about accidents that they never would have known about a few years ago.

When I worked at Epcot in 1996-98 there was a crash of a cast member bus and a car and the driver of the car was killed instantly, there was a child who had his hand crushed when an ice cart toppled and there was a rumoured bird vs safari vehicle accident while training the CM's for AK and an endangered bird was killed.

These are things that, if they happened today, people would be talking about it but I barely heard a peep about it at the time and only knew what happened because my roommate was on the CM bus when it crashed and the ice cart fell on the boy about 10 feet from where I was standing.

there are so many mediums to get information out to a worldwide audience that you can't help but hear about accidents but I assure you there were probably a good number of people who were at the parks at the time of the monorail crash that had no idea that anything ever happened.
 

Lucky

Well-Known Member
It's just a fluke, like if the Eagles won the Super Bowl.

:ROFLOL:I didn't see that one coming! Ravens fan perhaps?

Nah that's fine if i get flamed for even mentioning it, that kind of stuff does not bother me. I was simply throwing that out there as a minor possiblity. But to be honest, after reading MasterYoda's logic, his really makes much more sense to me know, hence why he's known as the Master! I guess it's just strange that in such a short time span, so many tragic events occured.
I try to be a Redskins fan, but Dan Snyder makes it really hard.
 

Tink313

Member
Universal :lookaroun
Those darn wizzards :fork:
:ROFLOL:
Seriously I think its 70% because the internet we are finding out whats going on and 30% because of cutbacks
And whats with the zac pic he looks kinda weird there:veryconfu
 

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